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Glasspack Question!!!

Started by Lizey, January 06, 2011, 08:12:13 PM

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Lizey

i put a glasspack (Thrush) on my Plymouthand all it did was make it sound like it had the stock muffler back on it!!! is there something im missing? do i have to do something to the glasspack or am i screwed?!
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tan top

it the exhaust straight through  with just the glasspack  :scratchchin:
what year plymouth ??
its not one of them muff type quite ones  is it ?? :scratchchin:
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greenpigs

Like tan top said what is it on? The Acclaim?

It should be louder if it the old style cylinder glasspack.

How is the Chargers cat convertor? It may be clogged up and I would bypass it either way
.
:Twocents:
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BrianShaughnessy

  All glasspacks actually sound like they actually muffle when you put them on at first....  until you actually drive them for awhile... the stuffing blows out then sound like crap.  :shruggy:   :Twocents:
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Cooter

Depends on the Engine's Compression/exhaust as to how much "Noise" that Glasspack makes..You don't just bolt one on and Presto! you have a race car...Especially, if the car in question has a Cat. Converter..
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chargermike

get rid of those old crappy loud mufflers. get a flow master. nice power sound. they make my 440 sound great. glass packs are old school noise. way better mufflers out there :Twocents:

miller

Quote from: chargermike on January 07, 2011, 07:15:23 AM
get rid of those old crappy loud mufflers. get a flow master. nice power sound. they make my 440 sound great. glass packs are old school noise. way better mufflers out there :Twocents:

You don't need no stinking flowmasters!

Dynomax ultraflows are where its at!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxN23wfw-Zs

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greenpigs

Flowmaster is the glasspack of the modern age.
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rattlehead_74

Old style Glasspacks have scallops cut in the internal pipe and they do sound different depending on which way you put them if you look through the inner pipe you will see what im saying. One way the exhaust will flow over the bumps(scallops). The other way the scallops will catch the exhaust and absorb it into the packing(creating backpressure) ,,It also depends on where you locate the glasspacks ..The closer to the motor ,,the more raspy/poppy it will sound,as it has more tail pipe to travel through.The farther away you put it the more deep throaty sound you will get The size of the exhaust pipe has alot to do with the sound too!

So,in short if your looking for a nice cackle when you let off  WOT (assuming you have a V8+duals )  hook up your glass packs directly to or not far from your manifolds/headers  then reduce the tailpipe to 2 1/2 all the way out the back     Thats how i did my truck and it sounds good! Hope this helps!


Or just get flowmasters ,,,theyll make anything sound like its got a HEMI ;D!

djcarguy

 :shruggy: ya say ya put a glasspak on your plymouth????? the acclaim is-ply and charger is a 77 with low compression smog motor and cat-verter and will not sound good with single exhaust any way??? and illegal ta remove cat-verter in most all states.... just drive it and some day glasspak will burn out in side and make more sound.clean looking car ,take care of it and enjoy it some day it may be legal ta hot rod it..

skip68

I put them on my car and it sounded like a Nascar.  WAY to loud.  You couldn't hear yourself think.  So, off they came.  I run Hooker mufflers and I love the tone.  It's a very deep deep low rumble.
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moparsons

I run glasspacks on my 69 dart. It's a 273 with dual 2 inch pipes all the way back. It sounds good......but it is loud and obnoxious. That's what I wanted on this car. It's flat black, jacked up in the ass end ...with deep dish cragars...just kinda fit   ;)

djcarguy

   A-A_A-Aglasspak the kid said he put A   GLASSPAK ON IT :shruggy: :shruggy: AND wonders why it sounds like stock muff-ler??????? :brickwall:

Brock Samson

 :smilielol:   :shruggy:  :scratchchin:
is lizzy the only person on here with a cordoba/charger?.. i know someone bought a Magnum last yr. but i think this is the first '77 I've ever seen on the site...  :shruggy:

charger2fast4u

I put a glass pack on my truck and it didn't change the tone at all this is because it had the stock cats on it still but as soon as you take off the cats it will change the tone and give you the sound your after but not sure if that's legal in your case with emissions  and state rules in your area. Anyone have a sound clip of  cherry bomb glass packs on there car with 3" exhaust I plan on trying them out when I redo my exhaust to run out in front of the rear wheels

skip68

I was told the longer the glasspack is the louder it is. 
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Cooter

Glasspacks sound like you have an inner tube strapped to the back of the pipes and is flappin' in the wind under WOT...They are like Air Shocks and 12" wide wheels with N/50 tires sticking out the rear, side pipes, curb feelers, ground straps hangin' off the rear bumper, fuzzy dice, etc....

If your building a 1970's "retro" show car, then by all means, but today we have better mufflers out there.
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greenpigs

Quote from: skip68 on January 09, 2011, 11:11:45 PM
I was told the longer the glasspack is the louder it is. 

I have heard it is the opposite as the larger surface area reduces noise.
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tsmithae

I have heard that before you install them you pour some oil in them and get it to soak in every nook and cranny and that it will help break up all the absorbent and will smoke and smell like crazy for a while but will get rid of all of the sound deadening and allow your mufflers to resonate better.
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red79

Quote from: Cooter on January 10, 2011, 06:44:59 AM
They are like Air Shocks and 12" wide wheels with N/50 tires sticking out the rear, side pipes, curb feelers, ground straps hangin' off the rear bumper, fuzzy dice, etc....

hahaha my car is 4 for 6 on your list of awful things  :icon_smile_big:  it'll all get fixed soon enough... except you're taking my fuzzy dice over my dead body!

Troy

Quote from: skip68 on January 09, 2011, 11:11:45 PM
I was told the longer the glasspack is the louder it is. 
I think that's backwards. My truck has 18" glass packs on it and it sounds like a dragster (side exit too). The previous owner said he'd ordered 24" to keep the sound levels down but got the wrong ones. I'll be swapping them to normal mufflers as soon as possible to cut down on unwanted attention.

Troy
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clanton

Glasspacks work great when you set your time machine to 1979.
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moparsons

Quote from: red79 on January 10, 2011, 11:27:35 AM
Quote from: Cooter on January 10, 2011, 06:44:59 AM
They are like Air Shocks and 12" wide wheels with N/50 tires sticking out the rear, side pipes, curb feelers, ground straps hangin' off the rear bumper, fuzzy dice, etc....

hahaha my car is 4 for 6 on your list of awful things  :icon_smile_big:  it'll all get fixed soon enough... except you're taking my fuzzy dice over my dead body!

Me too!!!  :smilielol: That's what I was going for with my dart though..........and fuzzy dice rule :cheers:

charger2fast4u

Just curious as to what's wrong with glasspacks?  :shruggy:   what kind of performance do they offer compared to a dynomax super turbo muffler? Is there any loss in HP running a glasspack instead of super turbo's?

Brass

Quote from: charger2fast4u on January 13, 2011, 12:34:55 AM
Just curious as to what's wrong with glasspacks?  :shruggy:   what kind of performance do they offer compared to a dynomax super turbo muffler? Is there any loss in HP running a glasspack instead of super turbo's?

I'm curious about that too.  They're straight-through so they should breathe well and there is a lot of variation in sound depending on length, how they're installed, where they exit, and whether they've been "F'd" with or not.  I have heard some mellow ones and some very deep and aggressive sounding glasspacks. 

Piston_Freddy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6daGEn35HlM  5:50  :cheers:

Glasspacks are better then flowmasters deffenetly! I hate how my 68 with the 440 sounds with flowmasters. :no:
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tan top

don't  know what make of  !! but  when i  got my charger it had straight through pipes with factory tips  no cross over , hp manifolds &  glass packs , they were  about 18" long & 4" diameter , one each side in  the stock muffler location !!  second owner said he had them  put on backwards ,for performance !!  better reversed  or something !!   :shruggy:      sounded one mean muther though !!  love that sound !!!   :yesnod: :coolgleamA:    :yesnod:  
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Lizey

i guess i should have been more specific

i put the glasspack on my 1992 Plymouth Acclaim...the Charger is getting side pipes.
2.5 4 cylinder with the catalytic converter still there. ive looked up videos of other Acclaims with glasspacks and they sounded good but mine just sounds like its got the OEM muffler on it.
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Iceyone

I still have an unused set of Walker Continentals. Used to run them on all my cars, loved how they sound. Don't have to do anything to them but bolt them on. Had a set on a 70 Charger (383HP) when I first joined the Navy. My neighbors out in San Diego hated them. My Super Bee had a new set of Flowmasters on it when I first bought them, I wasn't all that impressed with the sound. I like loud, but then again I'm half deaf from all the loud I've been exposed to throughout the years.
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NMike

the OEM cat is very restrictive. i ran a 89 W150 with straight pipe after the cat. sounded only slightly louder than stock.

if it has a turbo, it is even quieter. the muffler is there to kill all the sound.

on my GLH turbo, i ran straight pipe. there was only a drone at highway cruise. i installed a borla race muffler to fix that problem.

RallyeMike

That has been my experience too. Put straight pipes on cars with cats.




QuoteGlass-packs sound like you have an inner tube strapped to the back of the pipes and is flappin' in the wind under WOT...They are like Air Shocks and 12" wide wheels with N/50 tires sticking out the rear, side pipes, curb feelers, ground straps hangin' off the rear bumper, fuzzy dice, etc....

... and for all you whipper-snapper-glass-pack-haters, I have 18" long, 3" diameter packs on a X system in my Charger and I guarantee you, side by side, the crowd would give the sound coming from my system a thumbs up over your flowmaster-tin-can-echo-systems anytime, any day! Of course you'd have to look for the thumbs because you wouldnt be able to hear them cheering if you were standing anywhere near my car.

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TK73

Quote from: RallyeMike on January 30, 2011, 11:21:38 AM
That has been my experience too. Put straight pipes on cars with cats.




QuoteGlass-packs sound like you have an inner tube strapped to the back of the pipes and is flappin' in the wind under WOT...They are like Air Shocks and 12" wide wheels with N/50 tires sticking out the rear, side pipes, curb feelers, ground straps hangin' off the rear bumper, fuzzy dice, etc....

... and for all you whipper-snapper-glass-pack-haters, I have 18" long, 3" diameter packs on a X system in my Charger and I guarantee you, side by side, the crowd would give the sound coming from my system a thumbs up over your flowmaster-tin-can-echo-systems anytime, any day! Of course you'd have to look for the thumbs because you wouldnt be able to hear them cheering if you were standing anywhere near my car.

:nana: :nana: :nana:


There is something wrong with glass-packs, 12" wheels and N50s??  Who pussy-fied our cars?

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Steve P.

Quote from: Brock Samson on January 09, 2011, 08:09:47 PM
:smilielol:   :shruggy:  :scratchchin:
is lizzy the only person on here with a cordoba/charger?.. i know someone bought a Magnum last yr. but i think this is the first '77 I've ever seen on the site...  :shruggy:


I had a 76' Cordoba for awhile, but sold it 2 years ago. 
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

RallyeMike

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Steve P.

What I posted was a comparo of sound. Not just someone ripping some RRRRRRs..... :slap:
Steve P.
Holiday, Florida

RallyeMike

Ouch. Not so hard next time  :icon_smile_blackeye:




:icon_smile_cool:





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Cooter

Quote from: TK73 on February 06, 2011, 02:53:20 PM
Quote from: RallyeMike on January 30, 2011, 11:21:38 AM

QuoteGlass-packs sound like you have an inner tube strapped to the back of the pipes and is flappin' in the wind under WOT...They are like Air Shocks and 12" wide wheels with N/50 tires sticking out the rear, side pipes, curb feelers, ground straps hangin' off the rear bumper, fuzzy dice, etc....

... and for all you whipper-snapper-glass-pack-haters, I have 18" long, 3" diameter packs on a X system in my Charger and I guarantee you, side by side, the crowd would give the sound coming from my system a thumbs up over your flowmaster-tin-can-echo-systems anytime, any day! Of course you'd have to look for the thumbs because you wouldnt be able to hear them cheering if you were standing anywhere near my car.

:nana: :nana: :nana:I guess you would be correct. The average, Car-illiterate, "Car groupie" would be glad to know what American Muscle was all about even IF Vin Diesel had to show them by unmercifully screaming engines with Fart cans on the back, in hopes to make it appear that the loudest was in fact the most powerful...


There is something wrong with glass-packs, 12" wheels and N50s??  Who pussy-fied our cars? Sorry, you are correct...For some folks stuck in 1975, Mullets, 12" wide Cragars sticking 3" out from the rear fenders and that Liesure suit is just plain "Cool".

Svens (RallyeMike) Charger will give any Real Car guy ROCKIN Permagrin   :METAL:
"Real Car" guys like to see the mufflers when you leave the line...Not hear them over fifty other "Fart Cannon" equiped Honda's they are competing with, for the title of the loudest....
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

RallyeMike

Quote"Real Car" guys like to see the mufflers when you leave the line

That must be embarrassing. Maybe you should use both hands when you tighten up your muffler clamps  :shruggy:



QuoteSorry, you are correct...For some folks stuck in 1975, Mullets, 12" wide Cragars sticking 3" out from the rear fenders and that Liesure suit is just plain "Cool".

1. 1975 was a good year. In fact, good enough for Summit Racing, 36 years later, to list 10 pages of glass-pack mufflers on their website.

3. For the record, I'm dead set against Leezure Soots.
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Cooter

Quote from: RallyeMike on February 08, 2011, 10:01:00 PM
Quote"Real Car" guys like to see the mufflers when you leave the line

That must be embarrassing. Maybe you should use both hands when you tighten up your muffler clamps  :shruggy: Glasspacked cars get clamps, high powered, flowmaster equipped cars get fully welded. But, I guess trying to explain this to a roundy round person is like trying to talk horse sense to a jackass. And now would come the time when the wiser minds must prevail and end this "Facebook"( at least that's what I think you younger, whipper snapper types like to post on blasting each other in public these days), BS debate over mufflers my friend...Good luck with that obnoxiously loud car, as I grew out of that when I was 20 Years old. I have faith, You will too..



QuoteSorry, you are correct...For some folks stuck in 1975, Mullets, 12" wide Cragars sticking 3" out from the rear fenders and that Liesure suit is just plain "Cool".

1. 1975 was a good year. In fact, good enough for Summit Racing, 36 years later, to list 10 pages of glass-pack mufflers on their website.
Wow, You know how to look at an advertisement...This must be the reason Flowmaster is America's #1 selling muffler then..My mistake.

3. For the record, I'm dead set against Leezure Soots.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

clanton

Chances are if your hair looks like this you prolly have glasspacks....
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RallyeMike

Now that's more like it, brother  :2thumbs:


This thread was a lot more fun until it was taken way, WAAAAY, too seriously by those without any sense of humor.


Flowmaster fans as a kid:

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