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Question concerning '69 RT/SE's

Started by 69Charger_440, January 03, 2011, 02:54:46 PM

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69Charger_440

Did all the RT/SE's come standard with disc brakes or were those options?  Reason I ask is because I have two, but one has drums and one has cruise control and the other doesn't.  :scratchchin: Just wondering.

Ghoste

Discs were an option. (as of course is cruise)

69Charger_440

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2011, 02:55:55 PM
Discs were an option. (as of course is cruise)

O.k. thanks for the response. 

1969chargerrtse

I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

tan top

think  i must have the lowest optioned R/T- SE  built  :cryin: ..... :lol:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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1969chargerrtse

Quote from: tan top on January 03, 2011, 05:58:27 PM
think  i must have the lowest optioned R/T- SE  built  :cryin: ..... :lol:
I've seen several around with drum and manual steering.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

tan top

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 03, 2011, 06:22:21 PM
Quote from: tan top on January 03, 2011, 05:58:27 PM
think  i must have the lowest optioned R/T- SE  built  :cryin: ..... :lol:
I've seen several around with drum and manual steering.

yippee i'm ahead then !!  have power steering   !  but manual  drums :lol: :2thumbs:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

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Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
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C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

69CoronetRT

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 03, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?

As both the SE package and disc brakes were options, I don't know how you could ever determine the number built. The option reports just don't work that way. You could know how many R/Ts had the SE package and you could know the number of R/Ts that had disc brakes but beyond that.......
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

69 OUR/TEA

I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.

hemi68charger

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 03, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?

Not sure where these numbers come from. It was my understanding that the production breakdown of various options per model (model years 1968-70'something) was destroyed in a fire way back when. It is my understanding some get confused with actual production numbers versus the number of cars of various models "registered" on one's database.
Troy
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Ghoste

Did they ever track them that way?  I was under the impression that Chrysler could tell you maybe how many disc brakes were installed in Coronets but didn't break it dwon as far as four door, two door, RT etc.  They used to put out a report that would be something like 43% of 69 Coronet models were ordered with automatic widgets but beyond that, you have to guess. 

UFO

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 03, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.

Located the article.Mopar coll guide.
Only numbers listed are how many registered of a certain color.
You must have seen it somewhere else,or there's another article that I just don't remember yet.I think he did some writing for the old Hi-Perf mopar mag as well.Might be in there.

UFO



It was my understanding that the production breakdown of various options per model (model years 1968-70'something) was destroyed in a fire way back when.
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Very common answer,LOL I got that same one(about 1982) from Chrysler Canada when I asked about locating info on selling dealership.

maxwellwedge

Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 03, 2011, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 03, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?

As both the SE package and disc brakes were options, I don't know how you could ever determine the number built. The option reports just don't work that way. You could know how many R/Ts had the SE package and you could know the number of R/Ts that had disc brakes but beyond that.......

I agree. SE was an option -  not a model/unique VIN like a 70 RT/SE Challenger. There would be no way to track (other than a guess) how many Charger R/T's were equipped with those 2 options combined.

69CoronetRT

Quote from: Ghoste on January 03, 2011, 10:07:41 PM
Did they ever track them that way?  I was under the impression that Chrysler could tell you maybe how many disc brakes were installed in Coronets but didn't break it dwon as far as four door, two door, RT etc.  They used to put out a report that would be something like 43% of 69 Coronet models were ordered with automatic widgets but beyond that, you have to guess.  

Yes, they did track them that way. Remember, these sheets were used for sales and inventory purpose just like any other large company. They wanted to know what sold the best on which models and project how much of what they would need to buy. The sheets broke it down by model and sub model.

GG's Option and accessories reports are nothing but a distilled version of the original sales reports. He just offers reports for the more desirable (sellable) models. Original sheets are still floating around out there but I don't know if all years and makes are still around.

I don't think a break down by color was available until 1970.
Seeking information on '69 St. Louis plant VINs, SPDs and VONs. Buld sheets and tag pictures appreciated. Over 3,000 on file thanks to people like you.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 03, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.
Yeah but, I think on Chris's site PW is 1521.
Here's another thing.  What's up with all the " lost in the fire " stories?  I heard that about GM and their records for Chevelle's Camaro's etc....

Just went on his site and he has some options listed.

Some extra information on some of the options available in 69:

Total production of Charger Option G-31 (manual passenger mirror):  207
Total production of Charger Option P31 (power windows):  1521
Total production of Charger Option R22 (AM/8-track):  3042
Total production of Charger Option H51 (A/C w/heater):  7398
Total production of Charger Option G11 (tinted glass):  9012
Total production of Charger Option B41 (Bendix power disc brakes):  5088


I get it, no breakdown for brakes on certain Charger models....  :P
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 03, 2011, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 03, 2011, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 03, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?

As both the SE package and disc brakes were options, I don't know how you could ever determine the number built. The option reports just don't work that way. You could know how many R/Ts had the SE package and you could know the number of R/Ts that had disc brakes but beyond that.......


I agree. SE was an option -  not a model/unique VIN like a 70 RT/SE Challenger. There would be no way to track (other than a guess) how many Charger R/T's were equipped with those 2 options combined.

maxwellwedge,I did'nt mean with those two options combined,I meant with power disc 700 something range,and power windows 700 range.

69 OUR/TEA

Quote from: UFO on January 03, 2011, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 03, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.

Located the article.Mopar coll guide.
Only numbers listed are how many registered of a certain color.
You must have seen it somewhere else,or there's another article that I just don't remember yet.I think he did some writing for the old Hi-Perf mopar mag as well.Might be in there.



Def was an article strictly about 69 R/T SE's ,listed the options  and how many were made with that option.The article took up the entire left page in the mag,and was,99.9 percent by Galen and was called 'by the numbers".If my memory also serves me,the mag was somewhere in the years of 1991-1996,when I had my 383 69 Charger.Had it in the back seat of the car.

RAC95054

My 4-speed R/T SE has front drum brakes, too, but they are power assisted (not that it really helps that much).  Disc brakes were still relatively uncommon in '69 from what I've seen.
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Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 04, 2011, 06:39:54 AM
Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 03, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.
Yeah but, I think on Chris's site PW is 1521.
Here's another thing.  What's up with all the " lost in the fire " stories?  I heard that about GM and their records for Chevelle's Camaro's etc....

Just went on his site and he has some options listed.

Some extra information on some of the options available in 69:

Total production of Charger Option G-31 (manual passenger mirror):  207
Total production of Charger Option P31 (power windows):  1521
Total production of Charger Option R22 (AM/8-track):  3042
Total production of Charger Option H51 (A/C w/heater):  7398
Total production of Charger Option G11 (tinted glass):  9012
Total production of Charger Option B41 (Bendix power disc brakes):  5088


I get it, no breakdown for brakes on certain Charger models....  :P

Those production numbers are not set in stone anywhere....they are just general facts found on the web through the years
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


maxwellwedge

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 04, 2011, 09:03:50 AM
Quote from: maxwellwedge on January 03, 2011, 10:15:26 PM
Quote from: 69CoronetRT on January 03, 2011, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 03, 2011, 05:37:28 PM
I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?

As both the SE package and disc brakes were options, I don't know how you could ever determine the number built. The option reports just don't work that way. You could know how many R/Ts had the SE package and you could know the number of R/Ts that had disc brakes but beyond that.......


I agree. SE was an option -  not a model/unique VIN like a 70 RT/SE Challenger. There would be no way to track (other than a guess) how many Charger R/T's were equipped with those 2 options combined.

maxwellwedge,I did'nt mean with those two options combined,I meant with power disc 700 something range,and power windows 700 range.

No probs  - I was replying to the quote that stated, "I have disk and was told about 720 R/T SE's had disk by several people.
I think from a Galen book?"

Brightyellow69rtse

mines got power assisted drums all the way around.

Brock Samson

I don't ever recall having seen stock Discs. in my travels,.. but I'm old and what do I know?..  :P

Chad L. Magee

Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 04, 2011, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: UFO on January 03, 2011, 10:09:37 PM
Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 03, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.

Located the article.Mopar coll guide.
Only numbers listed are how many registered of a certain color.
You must have seen it somewhere else,or there's another article that I just don't remember yet.I think he did some writing for the old Hi-Perf mopar mag as well.Might be in there.



Def was an article strictly about 69 R/T SE's ,listed the options  and how many were made with that option.The article took up the entire left page in the mag,and was,99.9 percent by Galen and was called 'by the numbers".If my memory also serves me,the mag was somewhere in the years of 1991-1996,when I had my 383 69 Charger.Had it in the back seat of the car.

I will have to look though my digital archive to see if I can find it, but it is buried somewhere in my external hard drives and may take awhile to find.  A few years ago, I scanned in all of the GG articles that I had from various car magazines (spanning 25 years) and started cross referencing the data for easy retrieval (but never finished as I had more pressing issues at the time: correcting my dissertation for graduation).  I remember the exact article that you mention about options on RT/SEs.  His columns were in three different mopar magazines over the years....
Ph.D. Metallocene Chemist......

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on January 04, 2011, 10:16:08 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 04, 2011, 06:39:54 AM
Quote from: 69 OUR/TEA on January 03, 2011, 09:22:03 PM
I remember seeing a magazine article,Galens column, "by the numbers" on 69 R/T SE Chargers,listed the options and how many were built with .If my memory serves me,both the power windows and power disc brake were somewhere in the 700 range.Maybe someone still has this article,would like to see it again.
Yeah but, I think on Chris's site PW is 1521.
Here's another thing.  What's up with all the " lost in the fire " stories?  I heard that about GM and their records for Chevelle's Camaro's etc....

Just went on his site and he has some options listed.

Some extra information on some of the options available in 69:

Total production of Charger Option G-31 (manual passenger mirror):  207
Total production of Charger Option P31 (power windows):  1521
Total production of Charger Option R22 (AM/8-track):  3042
Total production of Charger Option H51 (A/C w/heater):  7398
Total production of Charger Option G11 (tinted glass):  9012
Total production of Charger Option B41 (Bendix power disc brakes):  5088


I get it, no breakdown for brakes on certain Charger models....  :P

Those production numbers are not set in stone anywhere....they are just general facts found on the web through the years
:o What?  I had no idea they were not set in stone.  O boy. :-\
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Lord Warlock

QuoteLocated the article.Mopar coll guide.
Only numbers listed are how many registered of a certain color.

you wouldn't have the breakdown by color would you.  like how many Y3 RTSE's were made in 69?
69 RT/SE Y3 cream yellow w/tan vinyl top and black r/t stripe. non matching 440/375, 3:23, Column shift auto w/buddy seat, tan interior, am/fm w/fr to back fade, Now wears 17" magnum 500 rims and Nitto tires. Fresh repaint, new interior, new wheels and tires.

maxwellwedge

Nope - same deal as above - The R/T-SE was not a model like it was for the 70 Challenger R/T-SE (JS29).

The info may be available for a standard Charger and an R/T Charger.