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HEY GUN GUYS!!!! OLD .36cal black powder pistol. authentic or cheap replica??

Started by HITMAN 149, October 27, 2010, 04:07:20 PM

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Drache

Uberti and Pietta make EXACT COPIES of the 1851 Colt Navies Pistols used in the Civil War. Their serial numbers are their own and thus cannot be dated the same as the Colt Navies. These two companies are CHEAP. You can pick up one of these copies for about $300.

The reason it is stamped with the US Naval action is because it's a copy of the real 1851 Colt Navies which are stamped with that date (and thus why they are called Colt Navies).

The reason it doesn't have a makers name is because it's a cheap copy. The only reason it has Made in Italy on it is they have to by law for export.

It wasn't made for the Italian Navy. Italy didn't have a navy until 1861.

Any other questions?  :icon_smile_big:

I currently own an original Colt Navy and I've owned both copies from Uberti and Pietta. I used to shoot them all the time until black powder around here became harder to find than hens teeth...  :'(

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HITMAN 149

wow!! thanks for the info bro...
yea my friend got all excited when he looked up stuff online & saw what he thought was the same gun for @ $100K!!! lol meanwhile the gun was hanging on my stepfathers wall for as long as i can remember!!! hahaha
damnnn i got a lil excited thinking cool!!! i'll be able to replace my 68 r/t i just sold!!! hahahaha
it's all good though!!!
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68 Charger R/T, SOLD =/ sniffle sniffle
01 BMW 740i SPORT  
01 Hot Rod Harley Dresser, SOLD =/ =/

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Probably a Pietta but they will shoot fine with powder, cap, and ball. They need a lot of cleaning after use, I use hot water and Simple Green cleaner, dry, then finish with WD-40.

John_Kunkel

Notice the difference in barrel length between the pic in the OP and the 1851 in Drache's post, the one in the OP appears to be the "pocket" configuration or a 1862 police version such as shown on the page below near the bottom but neither is consistent with the engraving on the one in the OP.

http://www.armchairgunshow.com/otsAC_percussion_colts.htm



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surmanajaja

Quote from: Drache on October 30, 2010, 03:35:03 AM
Just for fun... here's a real 1851 Colt Navy! Purchased new back by an ancestor of mine who was in the Militia during the Civil War. Sadly the gun had seen better days. My dad remembers being allowed to play with it when playing cowboys and indians as a kid. Same with my grandfather. The frame has a hairline fracture in it which was the reason the kids were allowed to play with it, can't do much with a useless gun.  :icon_smile_dissapprove:


I wouldn´t try to fire a 150-160 years old gun even if it looked "brand new", the metal fatigues anyway and theres a good chance it would blow up on ur face. because of that, in Finland you dont need a permit for such an old gun, since its not usable anyway.

uberti makes nice replicas, theyre the ones that Clint Eastwood used in all those great spaghetti westerns. you can get them in all kinds of calibers, .38 for example. check the website:http://www.uberti.com/firearms/walker.php

Drache

Quote from: surmanajaja on December 29, 2010, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: Drache on October 30, 2010, 03:35:03 AM
Just for fun... here's a real 1851 Colt Navy! Purchased new back by an ancestor of mine who was in the Militia during the Civil War. Sadly the gun had seen better days. My dad remembers being allowed to play with it when playing cowboys and indians as a kid. Same with my grandfather. The frame has a hairline fracture in it which was the reason the kids were allowed to play with it, can't do much with a useless gun.  :icon_smile_dissapprove:


I wouldn´t try to fire a 150-160 years old gun even if it looked "brand new", the metal fatigues anyway and theres a good chance it would blow up on ur face. because of that, in Finland you dont need a permit for such an old gun, since its not usable anyway.

uberti makes nice replicas, theyre the ones that Clint Eastwood used in all those great spaghetti westerns. you can get them in all kinds of calibers, .38 for example. check the website:http://www.uberti.com/firearms/walker.php

In canada antique guns sell for quite a bit since you dont need a permit for them and they are one of the favorites at the range. Ive owned three antique firearms and the only reason Ive sold them is the cost of the rare ammo for them (one of the requirements in Canada for being an antique is rare ammo).

If they are checked by a gunsmith before use then it's fine.

Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 31, 2010, 03:22:36 PM
Notice the difference in barrel length between the pic in the OP and the 1851 in Drache's post, the one in the OP appears to be the "pocket" configuration or a 1862 police version such as shown on the page below near the bottom but neither is consistent with the engraving on the one in the OP.

http://www.armchairgunshow.com/otsAC_percussion_colts.htm


Actually it's still an 1851 Colt. Pietta calls it the Sheriff model and there were real 1851 Colt models made with even shorter barrels. The 1862 has a way different barrel profile.

1851 had octagon barrels whereas the 1862 models were round barrels.

1862 Colt:


1851 Colt:


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