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how hard to install a 392 hemi into a 1970 charger

Started by THE CHARGER PUNK, December 30, 2005, 10:00:40 PM

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THE CHARGER PUNK

how hard would it be to install a 392 hemi into a 1970 charger???-MATT (all info needed)

Troy

This has been discussed at some point. If I remember right, it physically fits but you have to make a few modifications. Mainly, you need a trans adapter and motor mounts to make it work in the later model car. You'll need some custom headers too. There's a company that specialized in the early hemis called Hot Hemi Heads and they may actually have all the adapters already. It's not a whole lot cheaper than building a 426 Hemi though since the parts are harder to find and there's more customization.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

471_Magnum

There is a 3rd gen Charger in my neck of the woods running a 392. Come to think of it, I haven't seen the car in a couple of years.

A car with this set-up was featured in one of the Mopar rags a few years back. I'm sure I've got the issue as I've saved every one, but I wouldn't know where to start looking.  :ahum:
"I can fix it... my old man is a television repairman... he's got the ultimate set of tools... I can fix it."

Chryco Psycho

the 392 is also a tighter fit due to the extra width it will virtually touch the right inner fender to get enough clearance for the steering on the left side

Lowprofile

I believe this is the car you speak of......
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THE CHARGER PUNK

that carsa  426 hemi , 426 hemis were made with chargers specified with that option a 392 hemi is a 50's engine that hot rodders use, which would take a,ot of work to install a sec gen charger body-MATT

Lowprofile

Bro, I know that. The car in the pic was /is owned by a gentelman who happens to be an engineer. He built the car [which was a plain jane 318 car] with a 392 Hemi.
"Its better to live one day as a Lion than a Lifetime as a Lamb".

      "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on."

Proud Owner of:
1970 Dodge Charger R/T
1993 Dodge Ram Charger
1998 Freightliner Classic XL

THE CHARGER PUNK

whoowaaa???? crazy i thought that car was a stock #'s match 426 car-MATT

jaak

All the money sunk into modifications, parts, ect. you could build a killer BB that will set in there with no mods, I personally think its a waste to put one of those old hemi's in a muscle car, If you want a hemi that bad you can buy a crate at any dodge dealer.

max

Quote from: Troy on December 30, 2005, 10:47:37 PM
This has been discussed at some point. If I remember right, it physically fits but you have to make a few modifications. Mainly, you need a trans adapter and motor mounts to make it work in the later model car. You'll need some custom headers too. There's a company that specialized in the early hemis called Hot Hemi Heads and they may actually have all the adapters already. It's not a whole lot cheaper than building a 426 Hemi though since the parts are harder to find and there's more customization.

Troy


:iagree: i did a simular swap years ago in a 1972 plymouth satellite and used a 354 hemi and it was a great deal of work to get it in there. the big issue i had was the oil pan most of the pans are rear sump and gets in the way of the tie rod i believe there is only one year hemi that used a front sump pan and that was 1958/392 so they can be hard to find.

i was able to use the stock manifolds but as mentioned above i had to buy a trans adapter for a later model 727 trans. another problem was getting the engine to set low enough in the engine compartment for hood clearance, i was never able to do that because the heads were really close to the steering box.

the earlier or second gen chargers are alittle wider then the car i had and i have seen a couple chargers with 392's and the hoods were on and in stock condition but it will be alot of work and time to get it in there.

Wilde Racing

Would it fit a 69 charger any easier? I happen to have a 392, (not sure what year) and thought about using it insted of a 383, or 440. I'd like to just have a 426, but I think the 392 is as close as a 426 I'll be able to get.
Twin Turbo, Fuel Injected, Coil-on-Plug, 69 Charger.
Little to no cutting to make it all fit.
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,73346.0.html

BrianShaughnessy

I've saw this 392 in a 68 last summer.   Can't say I'd want to go thru the hassle of a 392 after I read up on how much it is to get one rebuilt and all the rest  vs a B/RB combo.

 
Black Betty:  1969 Charger R/T - X9 440 six pack, TKO600 5 speed, 3.73 Dana 60.
Sinnamon:  1969 Charger R/T - T5 440, 727, 3.23 8 3/4 high school sweetheart.

Headrope

There are adapters and ways to make anything fit. The questions I'd suggest looking to answer are how user friendly you want the motor to be, and what creature comforts you'd be willing to sacrifice in order to gain the "holy f***" factor of seeing one of those monsters squeezed in there.
The 392 is physically wider than a 426. Among the sacrifices you might have to make are using a manual steering box and no power brakes.
Your car will scoot, but it will be hell to stop.
Sixty-eights look great and the '69 is fine.
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BigBlockSam

QuoteYour car will scoot, but it will be hell to stop 

or parallel park
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