indy crate engines

[metcoll]

has anybody on this board know of anybody that has used any of indy's crate motors,,,they all look pretty stout & prices are not crazy for what they offer...thx

[Challenger340]

Yes I know of Guys who have run INDY Crate Engines,
and yes,
I get to repair them regularily.

Any more questions ?

Just a Suggestion;
Get INDY to DYNO the actual "Complete Engine" you are buying, BEFORE, it is Delivered to you ?

Might make for more realistic price comparisons as well ?

[68X426]

Don't do any business with those people. Complete lack of integrity, and they will not back their product or work. Never.

Unfortunately I know this first hand. 

The heads are great, their rockers are the worst. Actually second worst, it's their utter lack of service that is worst.

That company, and their people, live on their "speed" reputation of 20 years ago. Today they sell inferior parts to the average guy, and then won't fix their mistakes. And they know it and do not care one bit.

Don't do any business with those people.

[tan top]

Don't do any business with those people. Complete lack of integrity, and they will not back their product or work. Never.

Unfortunately I know this first hand.  

The heads are great, their rockers are the worst. Actually second worst, it's their utter lack of service that is worst.

That company, and their people, live on their "speed" reputation of 20 years ago. Today they sell inferior parts to the average guy, and then won't fix their mistakes. And they know it and do not care one bit.

Don't do any business with those people.

heard this lots of times !! from different sources !!  crap customer service , & poor work !!  
never bought anything  my self , but tried emailing them loads of times  , mo reply , when i phoned , for some info etc on their 440-1C heads !! yes cast iron version suck me on hold for a while , then it went dead !! phoned again , dead  phone line nothing !!  
if you need their parts don't buy direct from them ! is what i have been told on a number of times

catalogue looks good though  

[Challenger340]

Don't do any business with those people. Complete lack of integrity, and they will not back their product or work. Never.

Unfortunately I know this first hand.  

The heads are great, their rockers are the worst. Actually second worst, it's their utter lack of service that is worst.

That company, and their people, live on their "speed" reputation of 20 years ago. Today they sell inferior parts to the average guy, and then won't fix their mistakes. And they know it and do not care one bit.

Don't do any business with those people.

I was an INDY WD Dealer for many years at my Shop.
I still bring in their products for my Customers,
But NOT as a "Dealer" anymore, simple as a "Customer", same as my Customers are, and at my Customers DISCRETION, Not mine
THAT WAY,
when the "stuff" shows up all Fawked up(IMO), I can CHARGE to repair the stuff,
and NOT,
get stupid looks from Customers, like I am the "DEALER", so fix it for FREE !
(with no recourse with INDY, even as "WD Dealer")

That said,
INDY still have some of the finest Heads/Blocks and Engine Components, barr none, that are produced for serious Horsepower production with Mopars.
My point being,
Either buy it COMPLETE, Finished & DYNO'd from INDY, so as to possess whatever "continuity" INDY applies to THEIR finished products,
or,
buy the components singularily, and go to your Engine Builder with the products for Machining/Assembly, to get your Builders "Continuity".

I strongly suggest, that if you purchase a Crate Engine from INDY, IMO, that you get them to RUN IT, break it in, with some certification as to "Patent product", suitable for the intended service.

[Rolling_Thunder]

had a customer with a crate 528 hemi from INDY - they dynoed it and it still had problems after - 30 miles into it it started having rocker arm issues...     

[charger2fast4u]

This thread is making me leary about buying there products. I've always heard nothing but good things on rhem. this winter i'm thinking about buying a set of there indy ez1 heads. Are there heads anything to be worried about buying? Would it be better to buy them through a dealer instead of them directly?

[elacruze]

Indy used to have products that were not available anywhere else, and that's why they have such an air of arrogance. You had to do business with them if you wanted your Chrysler as fast as it could get. Edelbrock is catching up fast, and though Eddy may not surpass them in ultimate capability, Indy will get buried in the volume markets because of Eddy's quality control and customer service.

Since I'm not drag racing for money, I'll never do business with Indy. I only helped a friend who used Indy one time, and that was enough. If not for Jim at Hughes Racing covering Indy's ass with Customer Service, we'd have had to throw away the entire top end and do something else.

[Wicked72]

IMO everything they have is junk except their bare heads. I never had any issues while porting any of them just issues when ppl wanted to use indys head components which dont hold up. They flow very good out of the box and with trusted name brands to complete them you can get a damn good set of heads.

[68X426]

I've always heard nothing but good things on rhem.

So did I, then came the coldest freakin' reality ever, when having to deal with them and their mistakes.

indy ez1 heads. Are there heads anything to be worried about buying? Would it be better to buy them through a dealer instead of them directly?

I can only speak for the 1RA (Hemi) heads - awesome. The ez1 have a great rep (check moparts forum, lots of info there).

Their rockers are crap and their attitude is the worst. So yes, buy from a dealer if you must.

[RallyeMike]

This thread is making me leary about buying there products. I've always heard nothing but good things on rhem. this winter i'm thinking about buying a set of there indy ez1 heads. Are there heads anything to be worried about buying? Would it be better to buy them through a dealer instead of them directly?

I'm running the EZ's on my Charger with other manufacturers rockers. The heads are great. The valley plate is a nice piece too.

Can't speak to anything else.

[oldschool]

at least most of their stuff is made here......

[Brass]

Man, I would think this sort of thread, where dissatisfaction is so prevalent, would mortify any professional customer service manager or client relations rep.  This is how brands (without a niche market) can be made or ruined.  Sounds like they need to drain the swamp over there.  Sorry for the hi-jack. 

[68X426]

Man, I would think this sort of thread, where dissatisfaction is so prevalent, would mortify any professional customer service manager or client relations rep.  This is how brands (without a niche market) can be made or ruined.  Sounds like they need to drain the swamp over there.  Sorry for the hi-jack. 

Actually, not a hi-jack at all !! It speaks right to the heart of the matter. The question is how to evaluate the INDY crate motor. The operative word is "INDY".

• Do the owners' and manager's lack of integrity (will not stand behind their products) reflect anything upon the possible quality or dependibility of the crate motor?
• Do the owners' and manager's business model (treat the customer with derision, ridicule and scorn) reflect anything upon the possible quality or dependibility of the crate motor?
• Do the owners' and manager's business tactics (deny mistakes, lie about mistakes, lie about delivering on work) reflect anything upon the possible quality or dependibility of the crate motor?

Answer to all three is yes. Yes, the owners and manager's conduct reflects upon making the purchase. The motor might be fine. The people involved, and their actions, speak volumes to the case for not doing business with the company. All based on my first hand experience (and after the fact the experiences so many others related to me). I learned that my experience was not an exception, it was and is the norm for their business conduct.

Just thought that metcoll should know.

I don't a grudge, do I.

[charger2fast4u]

i would like to buy the EZ1 heads because from what i researched they are the best flowing heads especially when ported and give the biggest HP increase over edelbrock heads. is the main problem when it comes to heads from them their customer service followed by there valvetrain? would it be a better idea to just buy their bare aluminum EZ1 heads and buy the valvetrain from another more trusted company?

[firefighter3931]

Call Dwayne @ Porter Racing Heads and talk about your plans. If you want to run a roller cam that's important information and will influence parts selection. 

I had him order a set of the EZ 295's bare and fitted with the correct parts for my build. Dwayne specializes in cylinder head porting/machining & valvetrain setup. He's very sharp when it comes to cam selection as well. 

PRH : 802-951-1955


Ron

[charger2fast4u]

Ron that's who I was planning on calling and possibly getting to set up my selection heard very good things about him and his work after a lot of research on good builders I was deciding whether to buy complete or bare heads from them this thread helped me decide to go with bare heads and build the valvetrain around the cam and heads

[firefighter3931]

Ron that's who I was planning on calling and possibly getting to set up my selection heard very good things about him and his work after a lot of research on good builders I was deciding whether to buy complete or bare heads from them this thread helped me decide to go with bare heads and build the valvetrain around the cam and heads

Depending on your cam choice the std Indy valves/springs/retainers could work. The stock valves/springs/retainers are on par with the Edelbrock RPM hardware....suitable for a Flat tappet (solid/hyd) or Hyd Roller cam. You might save some $ ordering the heads complete 

In my case we went with a fairly agressive solid roller so none of the "stock" stuff was going to be suitable. Of course this adds considerable cost to the finished product. The Isky EZ-Roll lifters for the 572 were $1100 alone. 

The point being ; ask Dwayne for his opinion once you decide on a cam and build direction. He won't sell you anything you don't need.  He is also an Indy dealer so you can deal with him directly and your service will be excellent. If there's a problem he will take care of it with Indy so you don't have to   


Ron