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New American Auto Wire 68-70 B-body wiring kit

Started by WHITE AND RED 69, June 10, 2016, 04:19:03 PM

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Mopar Nut

"Dear God, my prayer for 2024 is a fat bank account and a thin body. Please don't mix these up like you did the last ten years."

chargedup68

I'm sold!  Now I just need to sell my painless kit...
68 Charger, 608/683 505 cu in. Muscle Motors Stroker, MASS Flo EFI. Reilly Motorsports Alterkation/Street Lynx suspension, Wilwood brakes, Strange Dana 60 4.11 gears, Tremec TKO 600

TexasStroker

It is a pretty nice kit from my initial inspections...talked to them years ago about making the Classic Update for B-Bodies and was glad to see it finally happen.  The thing that really sets it apart from other aftermarket offerings is the factory styled connections being included...I hated the idea of sinking in a couple hundred on a new harness only to have them tell me to cut off and re-use your factory connectors...if you were to pull in new connectors it would nickel and dime things past the price for this harness.

The other big thing, in my opinion anyway, is the harnesses maintaining factory-esque disconnect points.  For example your rear light harness plugs in just like the factory harness...so if you ever had an arc and burned things up, you only replace that section etc.  Most aftermarket kits are just long runs of wire.  I'm wanting to custom route things up front and AAW claims the wires are long enough to allow just that.

I keep wanting to start putting it in one section at a time, but haven't had the opportunity.  I would suggest shopping around as other vendors, like Summit, will offer the kit for significantly less than AAW.
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chargedup68

Thanks, I sold the painless kit this weekend and order the AAW kit from Summit for $899 and it should be here by Thursday.
68 Charger, 608/683 505 cu in. Muscle Motors Stroker, MASS Flo EFI. Reilly Motorsports Alterkation/Street Lynx suspension, Wilwood brakes, Strange Dana 60 4.11 gears, Tremec TKO 600

pipeliner

It should say 68-69 Dodge Charger because it's not wired for a 70,s electrical headlight motors. I called them and asked to many questions a long time ago amd they didn't have a clue that 70,s were electrical LMAO and they finally somewhere in small print put will not work with 70 headlight syestem or something like that. I went ahead and bought a M&H.

Derwud

I have a 70 Charger and bought the AAW kit, I will make a new headlight motor harness as needed with modern Relays, just to take out the almost 50 yr old tech. I do have an old relay and circuit breaker if needed.

I will probably buy one of their universal kits for my Jaguar next and completely rewire that nightmare...
1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

armor64

Hi All,

When I was down for the Run to the Sun event in Myrtle Beach, I picked up the kit as well, (along with the new 600hp Fitech Easy Street) and was wondering about the alternator support.

Does AAW just mean that there is no wiring for the voltage regulator of an externally regulated one? They say not supported, like factory AC, but it can be made to work.

Can I still use a DB AND0006 (120a with v-belt) that was recommended on another post, with the updated 72ish regulator (to cover the high amps a 68 one cannot).

I'm planning on running a thicker cable from the output to starter relay, and relay to battery anyway, but am hoping that its not going to cause any issues. I already purchased the alternator, reg, plugs, ECT and would really like not having to but a 1-wire instead.

As always, Love the forum and all the amazing info/
thanks
Morgan

Derwud

1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

armor64

i will route the large charge wire to the starter relay, green field to regulator, blue field to regulator and the choke wire for the ignition connection. should work just fine. thanks for the link to the 1 wire conversion though, if somehow this doesn't work, i will be looking that up.

Dreamcar

Just reviving this thread, my car needs all new wiring from end to end and the AAW kits looks like a winner. Any known fixes to be able to use the original alt gauge?
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

Derwud

Quote from: Dreamcar on October 17, 2018, 08:16:15 AM
Just reviving this thread, my car needs all new wiring from end to end and the AAW kits looks like a winner. Any known fixes to be able to use the original alt gauge?

You would have to use an OE style harness or make up a secondary harness that goes from Alt to amp gauge to main power feed.
1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

Dreamcar

Is the amp gauge the only real weekpoint in the factory harness? If you bypass the amp gauge completely, is there any other week point? 
"And another thing, when I gun the motor, I want people to think the world is coming to an end." - Homer Simpson

1969 Charger, 383, Q5/V1W, A35, H51, N88,  numbers match (under restoration)

Derwud

Quote from: Dreamcar on October 18, 2018, 09:57:30 AM
Is the amp gauge the only real weekpoint in the factory harness? If you bypass the amp gauge completely, is there any other week point? 

At this point the biggest week point of the factory harness is time.. Glass fuses, Headlights fed through the switch instead of a relay, and few others..
1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

TexasStroker

I think if you plan it out ahead of time for an alternator and AC stuff you should have smooth sailing.

I've had little time to work on mine, but have the rear AAW section strung out and have been documenting the factory dash harness (and all mods over the years).

I'm still pretty happy as I go along, but I have had to invest in open barrel crimpers.  I prefer the hand style over the ratcheting one I bought, but I have yet to find anything that can do the big terminals they provided when they want you to join 2 wires to 1 terminal.  Apparently their special crimper does it, but the price seems absurd when you can score ratcheting crimpers with tons of dies for under $100.

Did anyone have a solution to the bigger terminals?  They put a couple of them in the practice bag.

I should be off this Saturday and am hoping to get back on it.
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Derwud

Quote from: TexasStroker on October 18, 2018, 02:21:06 PM
I think if you plan it out ahead of time for an alternator and AC stuff you should have smooth sailing.

I've had little time to work on mine, but have the rear AAW section strung out and have been documenting the factory dash harness (and all mods over the years).

I'm still pretty happy as I go along, but I have had to invest in open barrel crimpers.  I prefer the hand style over the ratcheting one I bought, but I have yet to find anything that can do the big terminals they provided when they want you to join 2 wires to 1 terminal.  Apparently their special crimper does it, but the price seems absurd when you can score ratcheting crimpers with tons of dies for under $100.

Did anyone have a solution to the bigger terminals?  They put a couple of them in the practice bag.

I should be off this Saturday and am hoping to get back on it.

I just take my time and make sure I am centered in the crimper.
1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

WHITE AND RED 69

Quote from: Derwud on October 18, 2018, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: Dreamcar on October 18, 2018, 09:57:30 AM
Is the amp gauge the only real weekpoint in the factory harness? If you bypass the amp gauge completely, is there any other week point? 

At this point the biggest week point of the factory harness is time.. Glass fuses, Headlights fed through the switch instead of a relay, and few others..

:yesnod: The stock harness was only meant for what came on the car back in the day. Once you start adding other things it is maxed out quickly.

Quote from: TexasStroker on October 18, 2018, 02:21:06 PM

Did anyone have a solution to the bigger terminals?  They put a couple of them in the practice bag.


Mine wouldn't fit in the ratcheting crimpers I bought either. So I just bent in the legs a little till the connector fit inside the crimper and it worked perfectly after that.
1969 Dodge Charger R/T
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1972 Plymouth Duster

Derwud

Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on October 18, 2018, 07:01:45 PM


Quote from: TexasStroker on October 18, 2018, 02:21:06 PM

Did anyone have a solution to the bigger terminals?  They put a couple of them in the practice bag.


Mine wouldn't fit in the ratcheting crimpers I bought either. So I just bent in the legs a little till the connector fit inside the crimper and it worked perfectly after that.

Yep, that helps get them perfect..
1970 Dodge Charger R/T.. Owned since 1981

TexasStroker

Quote from: Derwud on October 19, 2018, 11:13:58 AM
Quote from: WHITE AND RED 69 on October 18, 2018, 07:01:45 PM


Quote from: TexasStroker on October 18, 2018, 02:21:06 PM

Did anyone have a solution to the bigger terminals?  They put a couple of them in the practice bag.


Mine wouldn't fit in the ratcheting crimpers I bought either. So I just bent in the legs a little till the connector fit inside the crimper and it worked perfectly after that.

Yep, that helps get them perfect..


Cool deal, I can handle that! 
I haven't had to use one in-car yet, but the first one in the practice bag got butchered.  I went with the Astro Pneumatic Ratcheting Crimper (I already had a Taylor crimper, but they didn't have open barrel jaws...super nice staff and you get a real person for what it is worth).  I picked up a Knipex hand crimper that is really solid as well.
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