Taxes

[Road Dog]

Alright, I have about had it with Johnston County Taxes. Got the Taxes due for the 1969 Charger today. Last year I paid 84 bucks in taxes on it. This year it is 364.00 in taxes. They claim the car is worth 46,000 dollars in average condition. They claim they are going by NADA. My car has never been restored and it is high mileage and a 318 car with a non numbers matching engine and tranny. I took pictures and told them what the car is worth. They now have dropped the value to 31,000 bucks. I figure my car is worth maybe 15,000 on a good day. What do ya'll think? Any advice on my next coversation with these folks.

[Richard Cranium]

I say you're getting hosed. However, I hear that overall taxes are generally pretty low in TX. If you want to talk about taxes, try living in MA. 

[Road Dog]

I'm in North Carolina.

[hemi68charger]

Taxes? What the heck are they taxing your car for? Or, are you referring to vehicle registration?

[chargermike]

dont they have collector tags in NC.  In colorado we only have to re register every 5 years and no emission test. i paid 300. that seems like alot every year on a old car.

[Road Dog]

Property Tax. Just got off the phone again and got the price down to 21,600 bucks. Still way high for my car , but livable. This gal was saying she had all sorts of references and price guides from so and so to whosits and they are the experts. I told here what I thought of those experts and that I know the current market for these cars and maybe the county would like to come buy my car. It's like dealing with the mob. The same thing happens to folks with the property tax on their houses.

[hemi68charger]

Property Tax. Just got off the phone again and got the price down to 21,600 bucks. Still way high for my car , but livable. This gal was saying she had all sorts of references and price guides from so and so to whosits and they are the experts. I told here what I thought of those experts and that I know the current market for these cars and maybe the county would like to come buy my car. It's like dealing with the mob. The same thing happens to folks with the property tax on their houses.

Property tax !!!!  on a car?!  Man oh man !! We pay property tax, but only on the house here in Texas.. If they tax your car, then what's next? Property tax on your refrigerator? Shoot, there's the "death tax" and now this? What the heck is this government coming to? If I ever hear of a person running for office here in Texas that moved from North Carolina, they aren't getting my vote. 

[moparjohn]

Knock on wood, I've never heard of paying taxes on a car every year.  Registation for a QQ tagged cars in NJ is only paid once by the owner, Reg renewal is "free" after that.  NJ is one of the most expensive palces to live, better not say too much, they always want more. MPJ

[SFRT]

property tax on a car?

I'd move to a different state.

[twodko]

Un freakin' believable! That's taxation rape. What's next, will they come to your house and physically rape you? I thought Cali was one of the worst states for excessive taxation. I'm sorry to hear this, people are way beyond fed up being taxed upon taxes paid on taxes we already paid.


Man I love my country and served my country but I loath and fear the government in this country. The best government money can buy!

[NGC414]

I have never heard of property tax on a car. Is North carolina the only state doing this? How in the world do they justify it? Or what kind of spin do they put on it to make it seem ok? Tax is just a nice way of saying extortion these days.

[nvrbdn]

they should have to offer to buy your item for what they say its worth for taxes. that would stop gouging.

[Road Dog]

Yeah, we have to pay Property Taxes on vehicles in this state. My personalized tags are around 50 or 60 bucks a year. Years ago Property Tax on the Charger was a whopping 6 bucks. Go figure Every year it was going up until the insanity this year. 

[ITSA426]

Here, on old cars, we pay $90, one time, for collector plates.  Another $100 if you want them personalized.  Shh...  Don't tell anyone.

[Ghoste]

Taxes?  Try Canada, I paid 13% tax today on a postage stamp.  I wouldn't even want to start figuring what I pay a year in taxes through vehicles.

[Silver R/T]

Another good reason not to live in NC, first one being HUMIDITY.

[Troy]

I live in Ohio and we pay taxes on the car when we transfer the title. Across the river in Kentucky they pay yearly property taxes on their vehicles PLUS the registration. Also, depending on where you live, you have to buy a city parking permit - even if you have a driveway and garage. Somehow, Ohio still ends up with higher overall taxes than Kentucky.

Troy

[moparsons]

I live in Ohio and we pay taxes on the car when we transfer the title. Across the river in Kentucky they pay yearly property taxes on their vehicles PLUS the registration. Also, depending on where you live, you have to buy a city parking permit - even if you have a driveway and garage. Somehow, Ohio still ends up with higher overall taxes than Kentucky.

Troy

West Virginia is pretty much the same as Kentucky. Taxes every year AND registration. The nicer (more expensive) the car.....the higher the taxes.  Some vehicles have an extra "luxury" tax.   

Andy

[vancamp]

Property Tax. Just got off the phone again and got the price down to 21,600 bucks. Still way high for my car , but livable. This gal was saying she had all sorts of references and price guides from so and so to whosits and they are the experts. I told here what I thought of those experts and that I know the current market for these cars and maybe the county would like to come buy my car. It's like dealing with the mob. The same thing happens to folks with the property tax on their houses.

Property tax !!!!  on a car?!  Man oh man !! We pay property tax, but only on the house here in Texas.. If they tax your car, then what's next? Property tax on your refrigerator? Shoot, there's the "death tax" and now this? What the heck is this government coming to? If I ever hear of a person running for office here in Texas that moved from North Carolina, they aren't getting my vote. 

try living in arkansas we pay personal property tax on everything you own, cars,house,4 wheeler,utility trailers, shops or sheds on the property etc.

[vancamp]

Here, on old cars, we pay $90, one time, for collector plates.  Another $100 if you want them personalized.  Shh...  Don't tell anyone.

thats the one cheap thing in arkansas i paid a one time fee of $14.50 for antique tags

[moparjohn]

Not to get this thing all heated up, but we PAID TAX when we bought these items, why why why should we pay tax again yearly!!!  These taxes should be fought and removed.  I understand property tax on a house.  I also disagree with tax on a used car, again the tax on this item was paid when it was new. For once I'm glad I'm in NJ.  MPJ

[y3chargerrt]

Knock on wood John.We are talking about taxes and you are in NJ!!

[Chargen69]

I'll still be paying only $12.75 for my yearly property taxes even when the car is restored.    for you NC people, cross the line and move into SC

[1970Moparmann]

All I can say is WHEN THE HELL WILL PEOPLE GET INVOLVED AND STOP OUR LOCAL AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!!  Said it before and will say it again. If people spent 25% of their time understanding government as they do with sports, this would be a difference country.

Chicago - high property tax, highest sales tax in the country, income tax (state is going to almost double it this year).  The one thing we don't have here is car tax or big yearly fee - I'm sure it's coming. 

[hemi68charger]

All I can say is WHEN THE HELL WILL PEOPLE GET INVOLVED AND STOP OUR LOCAL AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!!!!  Said it before and will say it again. If people spent 25% of their time understanding government as they do with sports, this would be a difference country.

Chicago - high property tax, highest sales tax in the country, income tax (state is going to almost double it this year).  The one thing we don't have here is car tax or big yearly fee - I'm sure it's coming. 

Amen to that brother.............

[ITSA426]

I'm in, and I have a fair understanding of how government works.  Which part should we stop?  Helping our citizens here, helping citizens in other countries, rewarding US companies for sending US jobs out of the country, $200 million/day in a country most people can't spell fighting for a cause we can't clearly identify, hiring mercenaries, building infrastructure here, local services like street maintenance (and plowing here this time of year), educating our young to live in their society so they can pay down our debt to foreign countries.  There's just so much.... 

A good place to start might be to lay off congressmen when unemployment hits 5% in their district, but that's not realistic.  Certainly they shouldn't get their automatic pay raises if there's not even enough economic growth for those freeloaders on social security to get a $20/mo raise.

As a Vietnam veteran, I propose a specific war tax, with a no deferment draft, if we really feel strongly enough to send our children into harm's way.  Everyone should feel some sacrifice.  No off-budget BS like last time - show the cost.

We should call lobbying contributions what it really is - bribery. 

For our government to run the citizens should be limited to breathing entities, not incorporated ones, and everyone should have skin in the game.  I get involved so I can have a say in where the money goes.  I probably said too much, but the fact is, I count it as a blessing that I can pay taxes.  Blessings are best when shared.

[tricky lugnuts]

He probably has to pay taxes on his car every year as part of the umbrella property taxes - some states tax property, as in land and house, and ALL belongings located thereon and therein . . .

Hence the old CCR song, Fortunate Son, "when the tax man comes, lord it looks like a rummage sale . . ." Because he's trying to liquidate inventory quick at the last minute.

Here in Indiana, in my county, property taxes are super low, but we pay unreal amounts of money to register a car.

In Ohio I paid about $70 for a new set of license plates and registration - about $40-50 per year to re-register after that.

In Indiana, for a 2003 Honda Accord with 85,000 miles it cost about $400 a year to register. They base the cost of your vehicle registration on the original purchase price of the vehicle - sort of a perpetual sales tax. My Charger was only about $150 per year.

I agree taxes are simply getting out of hand, and the governments at every level are all still broke and scrounging for more.

I'm not rich. I only make about $27K a year. And it's to the point where I'm paying as much if not more in taxes every month than I do to put a roof over my head and food on my table . . . And aside from roads and a broke Social Security Trust Fund, I ain't seeing much in the way of a return on investment.

[ITSA426]

It seems like every state collects about the same money but from different sources.  Here, license tabs on a new car are over $300/yr but only $41.50 if you car is ten years old; and property taxes can be killers if you have a decent house. You pay to register snowmobiles and boats and about any other fun stuff.  Hell, you have to have a cross country skiing license no test, just pay up. 

The political arguments are always over who pays, and who gets the benefit of the money collected.  My butt burns just thinking of a recent sales tax increase to buy the richest family in the state a baseball park, so now the other rich visitor want more tax dollars to build his business a football stadium. 

Taxes alone aren't a bad thing, and I don't mind paying a fair share for the benefit we receive.  It's the abuse of the public spending that irritates people.  Hope we're not too political yet.

[1970Moparmann]

It seems like every state collects about the same money but from different sources.  Here, license tabs on a new car are over $300/yr but only $41.50 if you car is ten years old; and property taxes can be killers if you have a decent house. You pay to register snowmobiles and boats and about any other fun stuff.  Hell, you have to have a cross country skiing license no test, just pay up. 

The political arguments are always over who pays, and who gets the benefit of the money collected.  My butt burns just thinking of a recent sales tax increase to buy the richest family in the state a baseball park, so now the other rich visitor want more tax dollars to build his business a football stadium. 

Taxes alone aren't a bad thing, and I don't mind paying a fair share for the benefit we receive.  It's the abuse of the public spending that irritates people.  Hope we're not too political yet.

Where do you live?

[ITSA426]

Under a boatload of snow in Minnesota.  No more snow due until tomorrow, when the Vikes play Da Bears in Da snow cause their roof fell in.  I'm not even a fan.

[7dcharger]

Strange... I paid $33 taxes on my 1970 in Mecklenburg county this April.

[ITSA426]

You don't do a lot of snow plowing in NC I'm guessing.  Here the cities just declared their fifth snow emergency of the season and we are already close to breaking snowfall records with our snow season less than half over.  We are struggling to find places to pile the stuff.  I don't mind paying road taxes for good highways and services. 

I was hoping the Twins baseball team was going to move down there, like they threatened, if we didn't build them a ball park.  That would have dodged some of the sales tax increase here.

[Khyron]

I would say if they value it at that, tell them to buy it... take the money and but one thats done ;-)

see, glass half full ;-)

[Road Dog]

I would say if they value it at that, tell them to buy it... take the money and but one thats done ;-)

see, glass half full ;-)

I said that and they said "Sir, the county is not in the business of buying cars". I said "Well there ya go , If ya were, You would know what the real prices were for these cars".

[Khyron]

ask em what "cash for clunkers" was all about... I think they are mistaken LOL

[Aussie R/T]

If my R/T was anywhere near on the road and because it's over 30 years old rego is just over 100 bucks per year {or was last time I paid with my old car} and full insurance to drive car 8k a year is 200.So yea the value of the car is not reflected in the rego only the amout the car is insured for.

Like you said they don't buy and sell cars so they have no idea what it's worth having said that is the car insured and how much for might be able to use the insurace value as a guide.When the bank was assessing the value of my assets I said my R/T was insured for 40k and they accepted that as gospel. 

[Polygon]

I live in Ohio and we pay taxes on the car when we transfer the title

Here in Florida, there is a little known 'gift law'.

My dad gave me his Caprice, No taxes, just a tag.

I gave it to my son in the Navy, same thing.

(It may be just between relatives, not sure)

[Road Dog]

And get this (ya'll like this) according to their "Experts" and "Sources" my car in top condition is worth 78,000 bucks.

[1970Moparmann]

Hate to say this, but once our wonderful government really go green, I have a good feeling these "taxes" are going to sky rocket.   F - them.  Big government, less liberties......... More liberties, smaller government!

[Highbanked Hauler]

I live in Ohio and we pay taxes on the car when we transfer the title

Here in Florida, there is a little known 'gift law'.

My dad gave me his Caprice, No taxes, just a tag.

I gave it to my son in the Navy, same thing.

(It may be just between relatives, not sure)

  Mass has the same thing. You can swap cars between immediate family members with no sales tax.

[Wicked72]

My fam all moved to NC. Suckers have to pay and deal with all the crap there so I know what ya mean. BTW in NC theres no snow plows! GOOD LUCK! hahahaha