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Started by SRT-440, December 10, 2010, 11:00:09 AM

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SRT-440

I can't afford a new Challenger or a new Camaro as long as I'm pumping money into my 70 RR...but, I'm in need of a new (to me) daily driver. My '04 SRT4 is still a great car but I'm wanting something else.

I've come across an '04 Z06 for $22K with 55,000 miles on it, 6spd...seems to be in good condition..does anyone have any experience with these? Are they decent daily drivers? I know they are fast but how well do they hold up? Anyone ever driven one?

Btw, I have no kids and no need for a trunk.....and there is NO way it can ride rougher than my SRT. LOL!
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)

dkn1997

you could get an 08 or 09 Pontiac g8 with 20-40k on it in your price range....If you want 50-60k miles on a g8, you could probably get it for less and have enough left over to put it in new camaro territory performance wise.  awesome daily driver, lots of aftermarket goodies since it's got a lot in common with the camaro...  I'm partial because I got an 09 with 17K on it over the summer.  Best car I ever had. 

I know it's not everyone's cup of tea because the copied some design elements of a BMW 5 series, but it's a sleeper for sure.  I got a guy the other day in a supercharged shelby mustang.. if it was a fair fight he'd have left me standing there, but because im in a 4 door, I was able to sneak up on him and I tree'd that MF at the light! lol  what's that I read, if you find yourself in a fair fight your tactics suck?  yep pretty much. 

still, a zo6 is one sweet ride, but just can never justify a two seater... something in me just cant
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SRT-440

Yea...I've been drooling over G8's for a while now.  :scratchchin:

My lil SRT4 has great power but everything else on it is cheapo..I'm def ready for a v8! I've seen slightly used non-supercharged CTS-V's for 25Kish...but I'm thinking they may be a lot like the G8's under the hood.

I guess the best thing to do is research and look at as many cars as I can to get a good feel for what I like and don't like...the power in the z06 is what attracts me to it cuz I'm not a huge vette guy.

The only think I know is I won't drive a Ford so that will narrow down the possiblities a little more..  :rofl:
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)

chargd72

My dad just bought a '06 z06 (50th anniversary) and it is sweet as hell.  Never been a big fan of vetts but I understand how so many people are after driving it. 

          '72 Charger SE 4bbl 318                          '76 Power Wagon 400 W200                                 2011 (attempt at a) Charger

SRT-440

Quote from: chargd72 on December 10, 2010, 01:57:58 PM
My dad just bought a '06 z06 (50th anniversary) and it is sweet as hell.  Never been a big fan of vetts but I understand how so many people are after driving it. 

I bet that is a sweet ride! I LOVE the new bodystyle...if the one I'm looking at was a C6 I'd buy it in a heartbeat..the C5 is nice too but I'd be buying for the 405HP and around 3100lbs it's prolly spooky fast.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)

dkn1997

Quote from: SRT-440 on December 10, 2010, 12:01:10 PM
Yea...I've been drooling over G8's for a while now.  :scratchchin:

My lil SRT4 has great power but everything else on it is cheapo..I'm def ready for a v8! I've seen slightly used non-supercharged CTS-V's for 25Kish...but I'm thinking they may be a lot like the G8's under the hood.

I guess the best thing to do is research and look at as many cars as I can to get a good feel for what I like and don't like...the power in the z06 is what attracts me to it cuz I'm not a huge vette guy.

The only think I know is I won't drive a Ford so that will narrow down the possiblities a little more..  :rofl:

Im not certain, but the ctsv might be a zeta platform car like the camaro and g8.  sure looks similar enough to a g8 bodywise.
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69bronzeT5

I agree with Kevin (dkn1997)......G8's are the sh*t!!! I don't own one but I've been admiring them since they came out :drool5:
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Ghoste


dkn1997

Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2010, 10:35:45 PM
Get the Vette.

I wouldn't listen to a guy who doesn't even have 20,000 posts yet....F'ing newbie!!!!!
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Ghoste

I probably wouldn't listen to him because he has too many posts already.  Clearly he spends all his time sitting in his parents dark basement alternating between porn sites and this place instead of going out into the real world.  :lol:

adauto

G8's a nice ride, performace /handling/comfort all in one. If you just want the first two drive your old Mopar!  :Twocents:  ;D
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Dans 68

Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
I probably wouldn't listen to him because he has too many posts already.  Clearly he spends all his time sitting in his parents dark basement alternating between porn sites and this place instead of going out into the real world.  :lol:

Wow. Aptly and succintly put. I'm convinced.  :smilielol:

Dan
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66chargerkid


SRT-440

Quote from: 66chargerkid on December 10, 2010, 11:45:09 PM
I'll take the srt =)

sell it to ya! Mostly stock except for BFMIC and Diablo tune. Runs great!  :2thumbs:
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)

dkn1997

Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2010, 10:44:00 PM
I probably wouldn't listen to him because he has too many posts already.  Clearly he spends all his time sitting in his parents dark basement alternating between porn sites and this place instead of going out into the real world.  :lol:

I wouldn't say ALL of his time...He likely leaves some room in his schedule to go out cruising in his rape van....
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jb666

Quote from: SRT-440 on December 10, 2010, 11:00:09 AM
I can't afford a new Challenger or a new Camaro as long as I'm pumping money into my 70 RR...but, I'm in need of a new (to me) daily driver. My '04 SRT4 is still a great car but I'm wanting something else.

I've come across an '04 Z06 for $22K with 55,000 miles on it, 6spd...seems to be in good condition..does anyone have any experience with these? Are they decent daily drivers? I know they are fast but how well do they hold up? Anyone ever driven one?

Btw, I have no kids and no need for a trunk.....and there is NO way it can ride rougher than my SRT. LOL!

The car I sold when I started my car was an 04 Z06... The car is an ANIMAL. I had mine for 3 years never had ONE ISSUE with it. It's light, it's comfortable, and (compared to my 95 ZR1) it's SPACIOUS.  Sure, it's a raw beast, and isn't good for winter driving, but for a DD if you can get that for $22k?? JUMP ON IT. I sold mine with 50k for $30k 2.5years ago.




1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2010, 10:35:45 PM
Get the Vette.
OMG! Never thought I'd see you advise on a Chevy?
I hear nothing but positive things on the vettes and reliability etc from people that own them.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

tatrick2me

Why not a 06-7 Charger SRT8?
Bone 7

Silver R/T

What about Cadillac CTS V, they're pretty quick and will easily hold 5 people, practical car
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b5blue

Stick with the SRT....the insurance is gonna be tough on a Z.   :Twocents:

Ghoste

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 12:26:02 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2010, 10:35:45 PM
Get the Vette.
OMG! Never thought I'd see you advise on a Chevy?
I hear nothing but positive things on the vettes and reliability etc from people that own them.

:lol:  True.  I figured between the G8 and Z06 it was the better choice for a childless single man.  It's no Charger and I wouldn't buy one for myself but it's way better than going rice IMHO.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Ghoste on December 11, 2010, 04:29:16 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 12:26:02 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 10, 2010, 10:35:45 PM
Get the Vette.
OMG! Never thought I'd see you advise on a Chevy?
I hear nothing but positive things on the vettes and reliability etc from people that own them.

:lol:  True.  I figured between the G8 and Z06 it was the better choice for a childless single man.  It's no Charger and I wouldn't buy one for myself but it's way better than going rice IMHO.
Don't understand what people see in the G8?  Isn't that, that cookie cutter typical grand am looking sort of car?  Does less than nothing for me.  The vette is truly the real Mc coy.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Ghoste

I'm with you.  I admire the performance of the G8 but Pontiac lost touch with people a while ago when it comes to styling.  They were truly puzzled the new GTO wasn't a smash hit.  The worst had to be the Aztek, it pretty much foretold the death of Pontiac.

DC_1

Stay in the Mopar camp........stick with your SRT4. It has cool factor and will be way better on fuel and insurance than the "mid life crisis" vett would be.

Brock Samson


I dunno, I'd be looking at something with some room and would wanna stay Mopar...
BTW: The G-8 is comming back as a Chevy, shame about Pontiac,.. Saturn, Hummer, even Olds was sad but they had no Product,.. But having to Axe Ponchos was a crying shame, If it wasn't for Buick sales in China, Opels and Holdens being re-badged and sold here as Buicks, Chevies and Cadds. GM would be up crap creek without a paddle.
Funny they needed to deep six the SKY and Solstice, those little sportsters were only a couple years on the market, I liked seeing them around.  :shruggy: Also the Caddy SRX (a Vette under the skin) now has $10K cash back..  :yesnod:

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Sydmoe on December 11, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Stay in the Mopar camp........stick with your SRT4. It has cool factor and will be way better on fuel and insurance than the "mid life crisis" vette would be.
The vette is a true performance car that out does many cars at more than twice the price.  I never saw it as a mid life crisis car at all?
But he asked for opinions and opinions he shall get.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

SRT-440

Opinions are def wanted..My problem is I get bored with cars every 5 yrs and it makes me nuts..lol.
The z06 has the bang for the buck factor...if I don't get it I may wait till after new years and sell the srt and put a good down payment on a '10 Camaro SS.  I'd rather have an SS than the comparable in price challenger RT.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)

jb666

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: Sydmoe on December 11, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Stay in the Mopar camp........stick with your SRT4. It has cool factor and will be way better on fuel and insurance than the "mid life crisis" vette would be.
The vette is a true performance car that out does many cars at more than twice the price.  I never saw it as a mid life crisis car at all?
But he asked for opinions and opinions he shall get.

Ditto  :rofl: , if it was a midlife crisis car for me I'd best get partying like a rock star cause I don't have much time left!! I love those stereo types...

But, one thing I have to laugh at, is when I went to shows with my Z, I'd pull in to see the group of 60's men in their polo shirts and sun-visor caps sitting there wondering who the young guy was driving his Dad's Vette...   :brickwall:

My buddy that owns a local chassis shop just bought a new Z... He's only 30  :o .. The thing is INCREDIBLE.




1969chargerrtse

Quote from: jb666 on December 11, 2010, 06:44:29 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 06:06:48 PM
Quote from: Sydmoe on December 11, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Stay in the Mopar camp........stick with your SRT4. It has cool factor and will be way better on fuel and insurance than the "mid life crisis" vette would be.
The vette is a true performance car that out does many cars at more than twice the price.  I never saw it as a mid life crisis car at all?
But he asked for opinions and opinions he shall get.

Ditto  :rofl: , if it was a midlife crisis car for me I'd best get partying like a rock star cause I don't have much time left!! I love those stereo types...

But, one thing I have to laugh at, is when I went to shows with my Z, I'd pull in to see the group of 60's men in their polo shirts and sun-visor caps sitting there wondering who the young guy was driving his Dad's Vette...   :brickwall:

My buddy that owns a local chassis shop just bought a new Z... He's only 30  :o .. The thing is INCREDIBLE.




:icon_smile_tongue: :drool5:
Wow.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: SRT-440 on December 11, 2010, 06:40:47 PM
Opinions are def wanted..My problem is I get bored with cars every 5 yrs and it makes me nuts..lol.
The z06 has the bang for the buck factor...if I don't get it I may wait till after new years and sell the srt and put a good down payment on a '10 Camaro SS.  I'd rather have an SS than the comparable in price challenger RT.
Wait out for the conv.  I'd take a striped hot rod Camaro SS conv over the vette.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

jb666

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: SRT-440 on December 11, 2010, 06:40:47 PM
Opinions are def wanted..My problem is I get bored with cars every 5 yrs and it makes me nuts..lol.
The z06 has the bang for the buck factor...if I don't get it I may wait till after new years and sell the srt and put a good down payment on a '10 Camaro SS.  I'd rather have an SS than the comparable in price challenger RT.
Wait out for the conv.  I'd take a striped hot rod Camaro SS conv over the vette.

And have $$ left over to mod it!!!  :iagree:

Ghoste

Now when you start talking Camaro over the Challenger then my inner anti-Chev gets out.  Much prefer the Dodge over the stovebolt.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Ghoste on December 11, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
Now when you start talking Camaro over the Challenger then my inner anti-Chev gets out.  Much prefer the Dodge over the stovebolt.
And now we disagree.  A camaro SS conv is more desirable to me than a Challenger hardtop. But... such is life.  :icon_smile_big:
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

DC_1

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 11, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
Now when you start talking Camaro over the Challenger then my inner anti-Chev gets out.  Much prefer the Dodge over the stovebolt.
And now we disagree.  A camaro SS conv is more desirable to me than a Challenger hardtop. But... such is life.  :icon_smile_big:

Challenger SRT8 over the Camero for me....without a doubt. :2thumbs:

SRT-440

Tho a little over the top, there are some 1999-2003 Vipers with low milege for 30-35K and some earlier vipers like (my fav year 1996) for 25K in "like new" condition. Also, Ram SRT10's can be had for 20-25k with hardly any miles on them. Obviously, I'm not looking for a beater just to trash on..now is a good time to pick up cars that in time will be very collectable. And yes I totally believe cars of today will be classics in the future.

Not that my neon srt is highly sought after, it is fairly rare...2000 or so '04's in electric blue were made. Yellow '04's are super rare cuz the yellow was discontinued in '04 and they just used up left over paint...maybe 200 (or less) were yellow in '04. Sorry for the history lesson I just find automotive stats interesting..I'm a sucker for rare options.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)

SRT-440

Quote from: Sydmoe on December 11, 2010, 10:24:08 PM
Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on December 11, 2010, 09:08:49 PM
Quote from: Ghoste on December 11, 2010, 07:30:02 PM
Now when you start talking Camaro over the Challenger then my inner anti-Chev gets out.  Much prefer the Dodge over the stovebolt.
And now we disagree.  A camaro SS conv is more desirable to me than a Challenger hardtop. But... such is life.  :icon_smile_big:

Challenger SRT8 over the Camero for me....without a doubt. :2thumbs:
I'd prefer an srt8 over an SS but i'd rather have a SS over an R/T. That's just cuz price vs. performance.
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog..."

2012 SRT8 392 Challenger (SOLD)
2004 Dodge Stage 1 SRT-4 (SOLD)
1970 Plymouth Road Runner Clone w/6.1 HEMI (SOLD)
1971 Dodge Dart w/440 (SOLD)
1985 Buick Grand National w/'87 swap and big turbo (SOLD)