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ORIGINAL PAINT DAYTONAS ???

Started by Mopar John, December 08, 2010, 04:13:11 PM

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Mopar John

The topic of this post was a loaded question! A friend of mine stopped by to see the restored B5 Daytona and we started talking about the R4 Daytona. We went into that part of the shop and I explained to him that I didn't know what I was going to do with the car? Reason being is there are sooo mannny R4 white stripe Daytonas out there! In addition so many V2 white stripe Daytonas that look similar. I told him about my idea to paint it panther pink put recall wheels on it and a crate Hemi? He told me I was crazy!!! He said there can't be many somewhat originals left! Then he went on to say that with all the original parts on the Daytona and all the original used parts from the B5 Daytona that were replaced by NOS that I could put a decent survivor together and leave it at that! So now I have three schools of thought: 1) total restoration  2) total restoration with color change and 3) survivor! So, I would like to hear what others opinions are on this dilemma?
Thanks! Mopar John

moparstuart

Quote from: Mopar John on December 17, 2010, 04:27:52 PM
The topic of this post was a loaded question! A friend of mine stopped by to see the restored B5 Daytona and we started talking about the R4 Daytona. We went into that part of the shop and I explained to him that I didn't know what I was going to do with the car? Reason being is there are sooo mannny R4 white stripe Daytonas out there! In addition so many V2 white stripe Daytonas that look similar. I told him about my idea to paint it panther pink put recall wheels on it and a crate Hemi? He told me I was crazy!!! He said there can't be many somewhat originals left! Then he went on to say that with all the original parts on the Daytona and all the original used parts from the B5 Daytona that were replaced by NOS that I could put a decent survivor together and leave it at that! So now I have three schools of thought: 1) total restoration  2) total restoration with color change and 3) survivor! So, I would like to hear what others opinions are on this dilemma?
Thanks! Mopar John

If you have the stuff put it together as a survivor for a while and enjoy it . Then if you get tired of it build it the way you want it so you can drive it pink hemi and all .   
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

maxwellwedge

I second my son Little Stewies suggestion....except for the pink part......He gets that from his mom's side of the family. :icon_smile_dissapprove:

moparstuart

Quote from: maxwellwedge on December 17, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
I second my son Little Stewies suggestion....except for the pink part......He gets that from his mom's side of the family. :icon_smile_dissapprove:
My wife wants a pink car pretty bad , they are just ok to me .  You definalty wont see many pink daytonas  :D :D :D
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on December 09, 2010, 01:21:55 PM
Not mine...see the letter from the original owner from back in July '70...
That letter is amazing to have this first hand story after all those years.  I love how he spelled it Datona at the end by mistake.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Mopar John on December 17, 2010, 04:27:52 PM
The topic of this post was a loaded question! A friend of mine stopped by to see the restored B5 Daytona and we started talking about the R4 Daytona. We went into that part of the shop and I explained to him that I didn't know what I was going to do with the car? Reason being is there are sooo many R4 white stripe Daytonas out there! In addition so many V2 white stripe Daytonas that look similar. I told him about my idea to paint it panther pink put recall wheels on it and a crate Hemi? He told me I was crazy!!! He said there can't be many somewhat originals left! Then he went on to say that with all the original parts on the Daytona and all the original used parts from the B5 Daytona that were replaced by NOS that I could put a decent survivor together and leave it at that! So now I have three schools of thought: 1) total restoration 2) total restoration with color change and 3) survivor! So, I would like to hear what others opinions are on this dilemma?
Thanks! Mopar John

They're only original once, shame to sand it down if you don't have to.  I love the Pink Daytona Hemi idea though.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Dave Kanofsky

I'm kinda partial to R4 / white stripe cars!
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hemi68charger

Quote from: Dave Kanofsky on December 17, 2010, 09:47:51 PM
I'm kinda partial to R4 / white stripe cars!

I'm sort of like that, but with V2. But then again, that's the color I have and "beggars can't be choosers"..  :icon_smile_big:

Dave, your R4 is a great color combo...
Troy
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'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
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pettybird

Quote from: moparstuart on December 17, 2010, 05:48:36 PM
You definalty wont see many pink daytonas  :D :D :D

speak for yourself!



Hey John I think the car's too far gone to keep it as is.  If it had all of its original sheetmetal in some form I think it'd be all right, but since you're going to have to paint the front clip, the decklid, etc, I think it would defeat the purpose.  Telling people it's a barn find would be cool until they found out it was YOUR barn!   :lol:

I'm not so sure about a pink car.  I mean, we have one, and people love it, and I dig the Marty Robbins thing, but I'd never do it from scratch--I would have built the Buddy Baker car instead.  Then again, feel free to drive it around at the meet (or, obviously, whenever) and see if you like it! 

3--Daytona

A little late, but I will put my cent and half in.
I bought my green Daytona from the widow of the man who drove it off the showroom floor. You cant get much closer to the bottom than that.
She relaid to me, by far the largest complaint he had with the dealer was PAINT. He had his own bottle of touch up paint, and as the pic show applied it quite often.
I still have the bottle of paint and the receipt for it.
Jim McCauley
3--daytona

69_500

Personally speaking, I would prefer to  :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: :drool5: all over an original paint Daytona any day of the week to a restored car. Yes they are very pretty and make me  :drool5: when they are restored. But there is just something about the original paint and other oddities on these cars. Every time I get the offer to come see one that is unrestored or the original paint I leap at the chance to do it. And I always take along plenty of memory cards for the camera. I do not think that the last guy actually expected me to take 2,100 pictures of his car before I left, but I just kept finding stuff I liked. If the car is still presentable in its orignal paint and it was my car I'd leave it alone, but that is just me.

TiMopar

Wow... I wish I had an F8 Daytona with 'paint problems'...

pettybird

Quote from: TiMopar on December 24, 2010, 06:23:19 AM
Wow... I wish I had an F8 Daytona with 'paint problems'...

we have one of those!  it also has

fender problems
quarter problems
hood problems
nose problems
trunk problems
frame problems
interior problems
door problems

and that's just the start  :lol:

moparstuart

Quote from: pettybird on December 24, 2010, 12:33:14 PM
Quote from: TiMopar on December 24, 2010, 06:23:19 AM
Wow... I wish I had an F8 Daytona with 'paint problems'...

we have one of those!  it also has

fender problems
quarter problems
hood problems
nose problems
trunk problems
frame problems
interior problems
door problems

and that's just the start  :lol:

i'll gladly take it off your hands
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

69_500

Stuart you should have offered your C500 in a trade to Doug. I mean the worst he could do is say "NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!" right?

Mopar John

Quote from: 69_500 on December 10, 2010, 08:48:27 PM
I can only think of a handful of Daytona's with original paint. They are very interesting to look at. Sadly the last one I saw was getting ready to be stripped and repainted. Was a very presentable car if you ask me but it is not my car.
Dan,
If you include the Daytonas shown on this post how many do you think total are left in original paint? Have  there been any pictures of them on this site?
Thanks! MJ

69_500

Well I would say that I can remember 3 others that I have looked at other than the ones pictured here in the thread. 1 was still very very very nice, 1 was pretty nice looking still, and the other was still very presentable. Now there was 2 other original paint cars that I have looked at that were pretty nice looking but have since been repainted since the first time I looked at them.

Mopar John

Dan,
Thanks for the info! Is one of the original paint Daytonas the Bob and Sharon Malcom low milage Daytona? How would you like to make a visit to northern Indinana and check out my R4 survivor before I do something with it?
MJ

69_500

Yes one of them is the Malcom's car. I'd love to make a trip up to the northern half of Indiana to look at a Daytona. I mean lets see if you ask around this site I"m sure you'll find more than a handful of people who know of some of the various trips I've made just to see Aero cars. I think I have covered 40 of the lower states in the last 6 years just looking at Aero cars. If its within a weekend of driving I"m there. That pretty much covers half of the US if you don't stop to sleep for a weekend. And your not that far away, you only like what 3 hours from me. I am about 30 minutes south of Indy now that we moved.

pettybird

getting to see three wings, an original paint '70 GTX and a basement full of parts is worth the trip ;)

Mopar John

Quote from: 69_500 on December 26, 2010, 01:39:10 PM
Yes one of them is the Malcom's car. I'd love to make a trip up to the northern half of Indiana to look at a Daytona. I mean lets see if you ask around this site I"m sure you'll find more than a handful of people who know of some of the various trips I've made just to see Aero cars. I think I have covered 40 of the lower states in the last 6 years just looking at Aero cars. If its within a weekend of driving I"m there. That pretty much covers half of the US if you don't stop to sleep for a weekend. And your not that far away, you only like what 3 hours from me. I am about 30 minutes south of Indy now that we moved.
Dan,
I will PM you after the holidays and set soemthing up! You can check out the R4 Daytona and see all the improvements to the B5 Daytona since you last saw it in INDY!
MJ

Mopar John

Quote from: pettybird on December 26, 2010, 05:13:17 PM
getting to see three wings, an original paint '70 GTX and a basement full of parts is worth the trip ;)
Doug,
I completely forgot about the bird and GTX!
MJ

69_500

Would be more than happy to swing up there to check those out John.

nascarxx29

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