ORIGINAL PAINT DAYTONAS ???

[Mopar John]

There is a lot of interest in the one owner Daytona with SOME original paint in the other post. I am wondering how many Daytonas survive today with the original Chrysler/Creative paint jobs??

[Mopar John]

Alright, I'll get this started! Here is a original paint Daytona.

[nascarxx29]

My old R4 car had original paint and cracking stripes

[Richard Cranium]

The paint job coming from Creative had to have been horrible. Heck, even in this black & white photo you can see the gloss difference between the door, quarter, and fender.   

[Mopar John]

The paint job coming from Creative had to have been horrible. Heck, even in this black & white photo you can see the gloss difference between the door, quarter, and fender.   

Richard,
Do you think the differance between the gloss is because the factory may have put the freshly painted body through some sort of oven? Or is it just a rush job at Creative?

[hemi68charger]

Here are some of Jim McCauleys from Legendarycollector's website...

Love picture #3.. Looks like the tech at Creative just grabbed a red sidemarker bezel, painted it black and shove it in the hole after the stripe was applied.

[hemi68charger]

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#1: appears to have the usual overspray on the headlamp vacuum hoses from the painting of the front clip.

[nascarxx29]

Remember one story in MCG by ex worker from Creative Ind Bob Celestine they would see who could paint the the fastest.And we know the daytona basically is painted twice .So they could get the overspray on nose seals headlight trim rings washer bottle etc during conversion.And factor in random workmanship.My car was missing backseat buttons and rad support drilled holes for plastic retainer just to name a few

[Richard Cranium]

Do you think the differance between the gloss is because the factory may have put the freshly painted body through some sort of oven? Or is it just a rush job at Creative?

Both, but looking at the lack of gloss on the green car, one has to wonder if they "forgot" to put the hardener in the enamel paint.

[hemigeno]

I am not 100% certain about this, but I think they sprayed some sort of waxy film or coating on the cars prior to shipment.  If that's the case (and I think it's correct) that's what you're seeing in those car hauler photos.

[Richard Cranium]

I am not 100% certain about this, but I think they sprayed some sort of waxy film or coating on the cars prior to shipment.  If that's the case (and I think it's correct) that's what you're seeing in those car hauler photos.

You have a point there. Perhaps they applied a layer of cosomline to keep the paint from flying off during transit! 

[Dave Kanofsky]

Not mine...see the letter from the original owner from back in July '70...

[maxwellwedge]

I am not 100% certain about this, but I think they sprayed some sort of waxy film or coating on the cars prior to shipment.  If that's the case (and I think it's correct) that's what you're seeing in those car hauler photos.

[Aero426]

Reading the letter from Dave's owner, you can see how much of a pain these cars must have been to the local dealers and Chrysler zone people having to deal with the complainers.

Jerry Service's Hemi Daytona was repainted by the local dealer here in the Milwaukee area before it was sold.    The dealer said the paint was so bad they could not sell it that way.     

When I spoke to the original owner of Boat Tona a couple years ago, he indicated the paint on the car wasn't bad at all.  So there must have been some large swings in quality of what was turned out.   

As to McCauley's green car, I do not think you can look at the paint shine today as an indication of what it looked like when new.   

[held1823]

I know of one Daytona that was completely repainted within weeks of being sold.

The dealership had already done some paint work on this car before they picked it up on September 19th, but it still wasn't "right".
Later on, the owner was at the dealership complaining about the paint, which happened to be the same day the Chrysler service rep was there. After telling the owner that the factory guy was there, the service manager took up the paint concerns with the rep. As soon as he was told the car was a Daytona, the rep told them to repaint the car, without even looking at it.

This gives me the impression there were a significant amount of warranty repair work to fix paint issues on the Daytonas. This car appears to not be the first encounter the field rep for this region had with the issue, as he didn't even bother to look at the car.

[pettybird]

My old R4 car had original paint and cracking stripes

aaaaand useless post.

Anyone else own a Daytona which, at one time, had original paint?   

[Mopar John]

Thanks for all the replies especially Troy with all the photos of the McCauley green survivor! But so far only 2 with original paint? Is the Bob and Sharon Malcom low milage Daytona original paint? Or was it one of those that got repaint early on?

[richRTSE]

Love picture #3.. Looks like the tech at Creative just grabbed a red sidemarker bezel, painted it black and shove it in the hole after the stripe was applied.

Troy, not to disagree with you, as I know nothing about that car or it's history, but when I look at that picture I kinda think what ever dented the quarter probably cracked the original sidemarker. Maybe thats not the original one that came with the car from Creative.  Again, I don't know for sure, just my own speculation.

Rich

[Mopar John]

Rich,
Since that Daytona is a survivor I was checking out quite a few details! One of those items was the reflective sidemarkers. Reason being is that car has the very rare 4 section reflectors! Most Daytonas have lost them along the way! After your post I made the picture with the damaged sidemarker full size. If you look at it close it is a 4 section reflector which I would tend to think is original!
MJ

[maxwellwedge]

Guys - I have a bunch of original 69's and I can state with 100% certainty that all of them have their original side markers and all of them have a mix of 2 and 4 piece. Chrysler (being by far the cheapest cheapie cheapskates of the Big 3) was not going to throw out all the lenses they had after the Fed date....they used whatever they had. I did a poll of others with a bunch of survivors and they all had the same mixed up stuff - not just a couple of cars but a sampling of dozens.....Wing cars, A12's early and late, B and A bodies.

[Dave Kanofsky]

My R4 car has rear reflector holders that were both a different color than the car - one was R6 dark red and one was F6 bright green, they were both painted white on the face to match the stripe. 

I strongly believe they were original.

[69_500]

I can only think of a handful of Daytona's with original paint. They are very interesting to look at. Sadly the last one I saw was getting ready to be stripped and repainted. Was a very presentable car if you ask me but it is not my car.