Need a quick WIW on a 1 owner previously unknown Daytona !!!!!!

[Aero426]

I can't really tell how rust free the body really is, but overall it seems to be a car that checks all the right boxes: numbers matching
all there and complete
original owner
fender tag
4-speed....

Bearing that in mind, it still has to be worth north of 100k, even in the crappy market today.    It has not been through 15 different owners and restored three times.   You know what you are getting.  That part of it is worth something.    The car certainly could be sympathetically cleaned up and brought back to life.  

[hemigeno]

I think to get much more than $110k, two things would have to be present:

>  Broadcast sheet

>  Solid body & frame with a fairly small amount of superficial rust issues

Both of those might be there, and if so, I could see it hitting close to $120 or more.

4-speed and numbers matching are a plus, but it needs a fair amount of work to be "nice".  Maybe a whole lot of work if there are issues beneath the skin.  If it's a genuine untouched car (dare I use the term "survivor"), there is perhaps a premium to be applied - to the right crowd who would prefer to keep the car in its current state with only minimal/occasional use as a result.  Maybe another $10k if it's all original/untouched.  

Others would prefer a restored, running/driving car and would look to buy such a car at a discount due to the dollars they would have to spend to get what they want (in comparison to what other restored cars are selling for).  To the latter group, this is still pretty much a project car - just with most of its pieces already there.  My guess is that group might offer anywhere from $80-100k.  Hard to say.

From the seller's perspective, the best route to maximize the selling price is to focus on the market segment that wants to leave the car pretty much in its current state.  Emphasize those attributes - and if the right buyer finds it, the offers should far exceed what all but the most determined restored-car crowd buyers will offer.

[maxwellwedge]

Just bought it.

The car is pretty darn original!










Kidding - Kidding!   

[tan top]

Just bought it.

The car is pretty darn original!










Kidding - Kidding!   

     

[hemigeno]

Just bought it.

The car is pretty darn original!

Yeah, and you probably traded some E-body seats and a pair of old tube socks for it, right?



Incidentally, this car is in the middle of a grouping of about 10 cars - all R4 red 4-speeds with identical fender tag info (well, one of them so far is a SuperTrackPak).  Interesting...   

[hemi68charger]

Just bought it.

The car is pretty darn original!










Kidding - Kidding!   

Wouldn't have put it past you.....   

[Richard Cranium]

When I was contemplating the purchase of my Daytona last August, it was plain to see what people were asking for Daytonas, but finding a true selling price in today's market is nearly impossible. It seems that anything north of $125,000.00 for a run of the mill 440 Daytona in this market is a hard sell. I look at it was this way: a fully restored numbers matching 440 Daytona, to me, seems to be worth somewhere in the neighborhood of $125-140K right now. If you are going to do that car over, you'll spend a minimum of $40K easily, and that's if you do take it apart & put it together yourself.  That being considered, I would think that $85,000.00 would be top dollar to me,. Whether or not the car could be bought for that kind of cake is another story.

[1BAD68]

but finding a true selling price in today's market is nearly impossible.

So true.
Look how many Hemi cars keep re-running the Ebay auctions because at one time they could bring big big money.
Its no different than real estate, list it below market value and move it quick otherwise sit on it.

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

NO WAY... You guys found it?!?!?!  We were going to look for it last time, but ran out of time!  Crap.

Let me document it!  Are you guys free the weekend of the 18th?  Perhaps another weekend of hunting?

[Arnie Cunningham]

Good Work!  It is a bit jaw dropping to be reunited with the first winged car you ever saw.  Congratulations.

The owner will probably want 100,000.  There is something about six digits.  Although, if he knows it will be going to a winged car fanatic, he may let it go lower.  If it can be cleaned up to be presentable and can be made reliably drivable with little effort, it is worth $100K.  As has been said already, a total (non-competitive) restoration will cost at least $40,000.

[pettybird]

Good Work!  It is a bit jaw dropping to be reunited with the first winged car you ever saw.  Congratulations.

Meh, happens to me every time I open the garage... 

[fc7_plumcrazy]

Hi,

I just have to say that I really like its "used" condition.
With the faded paint, scratches etc it has character and is breathing history from being more than 40 years in one hand.
If it is redone it is just one of a lot of restored Daytonas.

If I were in the market for a Daytona I would maybe go up to 100k knowing I would just do mechanical work to get it back on the road.

Carsten

[maxwellwedge]

I'd go 100 if it isn't rusty......but we need to leave it for Danny!

[Mopar John]

 As I read through this post no one mentions any penalty for this man enjoying his Daytona and putting 125,000 miles on it? Could this be due to all the spedometer changes, restoration roll backs, etc? Therefore no one is putting much weight on milage any more?

[moparstuart]

I'd go 100 if it isn't rusty......but we need to leave it for Danny!

hey dad you can buy it for me ,   

[hemi68charger]

I'd go 100 if it isn't rusty......but we need to leave it for Danny!

Danny who?     

[maxwellwedge]

As I read through this post no one mentions any penalty for this man enjoying his Daytona and putting 125,000 miles on it? Could this be due to all the spedometer changes, restoration roll backs, etc? Therefore no one is putting much weight on milage any more?

Hi John - If it is indeed 125k miles then I look at the overall condition. I have seen 6000 mile cars that I wouldn't pay 5k for and 75k mile + plus cars that would bring "All The Wood".

[hemi68charger]

As I read through this post no one mentions any penalty for this man enjoying his Daytona and putting 125,000 miles on it? Could this be due to all the spedometer changes, restoration roll backs, etc? Therefore no one is putting much weight on milage any more?

Hi John - If it is indeed 125k miles then I look at the overall condition. I have seen 6000 mile cars that I wouldn't pay 5k for and 75k mile + plus cars that would bring "All The Wood".

I agree with Jim.. In this day-and-age, the overall condition of the car is the prime factor, not the white numbers at the bottom of the speedometer. Like Jim, I've seen my fair share of low-mileage rust buckets and high-mileage major survivors... Of course, there's a plethora of cases in between.

[70Sbird]

thanks everyone for their inputs and opinions. Here is the latest: the owner is nearing retirement thus contemplating letting go of the Daytona. He is still considering selling , but now is wanting to hold off selling the car until maybe summer......
He did say though that in the spring he would be willing to have the car rolled outside, cleaned up and photographed some more.
A few more details as well:
The car has only 25,000 miles on it, not the 125,000 I stated. He said the car was only his daily driver for a few years, before he bought another car to drive all the time, probably why the original carb and distributor are untouched.
The paint: He said that the paint was never very good, especially after they used to set beverage cans up on the wing for pellet gun target practice. He took the car to Maaco in Peoria for some "touching up" and they ended up spraying a coat on almost the whole car.
This Gentleman is not a "car guy" by any stretch of the imagination, and there is probably another good story explaining why he held onto the car this long. So for now, he still had the car in the one car garage attached to his house where it has been since at least last July, and it probably won't be going anywhere until summer.

Also I probably need to clarify, I am not attempting to purchase this car, thanks for the pm's but unless I have a rich relative I don't know leave me a bunch of money, or I win the lottery I rarely play, there is no way I can swing another Aero car and I've grown pretty attached to my Superbird over the the last 10 years

I'll keep everyone updated as I learn more,
Thanks again
Scott

[moparstuart]

thanks everyone for their inputs and opinions. Here is the latest: the owner is nearing retirement thus contemplating letting go of the Daytona. He is still considering selling , but now is wanting to hold off selling the car until maybe summer......
He did say though that in the spring he would be willing to have the car rolled outside, cleaned up and photographed some more.
A few more details as well:
The car has only 25,000 miles on it, not the 125,000 I stated. He said the car was only his daily driver for a few years, before he bought another car to drive all the time, probably why the original carb and distributor are untouched.
The paint: He said that the paint was never very good, especially after they used to set beverage cans up on the wing for pellet gun target practice. He took the car to Maaco in Peoria for some "touching up" and they ended up spraying a coat on almost the whole car.
This Gentleman is not a "car guy" by any stretch of the imagination, and there is probably another story good story explaining why he held onto the car this long. So for now, he still had the car in the one car garage attached to his house where it has been since at least last July, and it probably won't be going anywhere until summer.

Also I probably need to clarify, I am not attempting to purchase this car, thanks for the pm's but unless I have a rich relative I don't know leave me a bunch of money, or I win the lottery I rarely play, there is no way I can swing another Aero car and I've grown pretty attached to my Superbird over the the last 10 years

I'll keep everyone updated as I learn more,
Thanks again
Scott

SELL THE VETT

[70Sbird]

  SELL THE VETT

Thanks Stuart!
unfortunately If I sold the vette the wife would probably leave too! Se really loves "that" car
In wich case I'll probably be living in the back of the Superbird. Anyone see the "Dart camper/motormome " at Monster Mopar??

[moparstuart]

  sell the vett,  wife, and kids , then you can live back and forth between the superbird and the daytona  

   I did see that dart camper , I would have a very hard time fitting in it .

[hemi68charger]

  sell the vett,  wife, and kids , then you can live back and forth between the superbird and the daytona   

Put the two wings back to back and throw a tarp over it.. You could start your own show; "Mopar Survivor"......

[pettybird]

He can't sell the Corvette.  It's too cool, and there's WAY too much family history.  Even if it does have those horrible hubcaps...

While I can't speak against getting attached to things (and hence the 12 cars at home) you might want to think about swapping wings.  I like the 'bird, but I'd work on the Daytona at meets just the same!

[TheAutoArchaeologist]

Sell the vette, get rid of the wife.  I'll move down there, more room for 2 wing cars and 2 Challengers....

I could live in this...



Much prefer this though....



Ryan