New 67-68 Fender Tag decoder

[janimm]

Hello,

I found out that it is pretty difficult to find good decoder for 67-68 Fender Tags. I wrote my own, which is by no means perfect, but should work pretty well with Mopar B-Bodies. Please try it and give feedback. If you know something that decoder doesn't, please let me know and I'll update it.

To use it: just allign codes to corresponding places. Fill bottom line by using single space in between sequences.

http://www.jani-immonen.net/decoders/tag6768.html

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Anyone try it yet?

[Dave22443]

I just tried it for my '68 Charger.  What information it gave me was dead on correct, but there were a lot of "unknown options".  Still, it correctly identified the car, the engine and transmission configuration, the radiator size and the birth date   

[Ghoste]

Hey janimm, if you make one for 1966 as well, you'll be filling a huge void in the online tag decoding needs.

[janimm]

I just tried it for my '68 Charger.  What information it gave me was dead on correct, but there were a lot of "unknown options".  Still, it correctly identified the car, the engine and transmission configuration, the radiator size and the birth date   

Dave22443, could you give me the unknows option codes and the correct ones. I can then update the decoder.

Yes, I have plans of making other decoders too. I just wan't to finish this one first. Any help is appreciated. BTW: I tried to design this one in a way that it can be used with mobile phone. Its pretty handy when you can check tags anywhere.  If you have mobile phone with internet access, please try it.

[Dave22443]

Janimm,  here is what your program reported for my information:

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 383cid 4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: Unknown tire code
BUILD DATE: May 18.
AXLE: Unknown Axle Code
INTERIOR:
PAINT:
OTHER:

MOLDINGS:
15: Unknown Option
20: Unknown Option
48: Unknown Option
64: Unknown Option
819: Unknown Option

ABC OPTIONS:
A1: 26in Radiator
C1: Unknown Option
D1: Unknown Option
F1: Unknown Option
G6: Unknown Option

abc OPTIONS:
b6: Unknown Option

Unfortunately, I do not have a good resource for decoding 1968 fender tags, but here are the numbers I input from my fender tag.  Maybe someone else can help decode them better?

Line 1 = 50 6
Line 2 = 1 11 16
Line 3 = 50 8 4 C6X 661 B
Line 4 = XP29 62 5 43 518 122913

  If it helps, here are some of the known options I am aware of that I believe were original to this particular car.

383 4V Automatic
Center Console
Black vynal interior
Black Vynal top
Air Conditioning
Manual all Drum brakes
Power steering
Exterior color was dark green

Of course, after nearly 40 years and half a dozen owners, I could be wrong on some of these.  Hope this helps.

[janimm]

I think you didn't allign the codes to corresponding letters. Use some extra spaces to position your numbers exactly below the "abc..." or "ABC..." lines. For example, if your tag has number 6 underneath letter 'a', use two empty spaces to allign number six underneath letter 'a'.

Another example; 3rd. row: use extra spaces to allign your number 4 underneath A, also allign C6X under TRM, and so on. Decoder starts to know much more about your car... 

EDIT: I added some instructions and an "Example" button. If you can't see them, use F5 to re-load the page.

[Dave22443]

  What a difference a few spaces make 

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 383cid 4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: Unknown tire code
BUILD DATE: May 18.
AXLE: 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Black Vinyl Bucket Seats.
PAINT: Monotone Dark Green Metallic Paint.
OTHER:

MOLDINGS:
15: Unknown Option
20: Unknown Option
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
A1: 26in Radiator
R1: AM Radio
S1: Air Conditioning
Y1: Black Convertible Top
Z6: Unknown Option

abc OPTIONS:
m6: Driver's Outside Remote Operated Mirror

[sharpspike]

works better than any other ive came across. good job janimm !!!!


for OTHER: under UBS i have a 8 under the U. not sure what is meant by upper door frame. every thing is body color as far as i can tell.

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 383cid 4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 4-Speed Manual Floor Shift
TIRES: Unknown tire code
BUILD DATE: April 30.
AXLE: 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio, Sure Grip
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Black Vinyl Bucket Seats.
PAINT: Monotone Medium Gold Metallic Paint.
OTHER: Unknown Color Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
P6: Rear Seat Speaker
R1: AM Radio
Y6: Black Vinyl Top

abc OPTIONS:
a5: Center Front Seat
b4: Bucket Seats
h7: Fender or Hood Mounted Turn Signal Indicators
u1: Sold Car When Built (Somebody Ordered It)

[PocketThunder]

My interior decoded as INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, White and Black Vinyl Bucket Seats.  what did this look like?  white seats with black pleats in the middle?

[Dave22443]

Janimm,

  I noticed on these posts and in the listing you give under your own "Have you seen this car..." posting that your decoder does not appear to be able to handle tire codes?  I have a service manual that lists these codes if you don't already have them?  The tire code is the 4th code in the bottom line accourding to my book.

CODE   TIRE SIZE              Availability
33       7.35x14                Std. base Charger
42       7.75x14 BSW        Opt. base Charger only (standard w/383 Air, or w/towing pkg)
43       7.75x14 WSW       Opt. base Charger only
44       F70x14  RSW         Std. GTX, Super Bee, Road Runner, Charger R/T & Coronet R/T
45       F70x15  RSW         Std. 426 Hemi cars only
46       F70x14  WSW       Opt. no cost with F70x14
51       8.25x14 BSW        Opt. base Charger only
52       8.25x14 WSW       Opt. base Charger only

P.S. Making this work for cell phones was a GREAT idea!

-Dave

[janimm]

works better than any other ive came across. good job janimm !!!!


for OTHER: under UBS i have a 8 under the U. not sure what is meant by upper door frame. every thing is body color as far as i can tell.

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 383cid 4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 4-Speed Manual Floor Shift
TIRES: Unknown tire code
BUILD DATE: April 30.
AXLE: 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio, Sure Grip
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Black Vinyl Bucket Seats.
PAINT: Monotone Medium Gold Metallic Paint.
OTHER: Unknown Color Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
P6: Rear Seat Speaker
R1: AM Radio
Y6: Black Vinyl Top

abc OPTIONS:
a5: Center Front Seat
b4: Bucket Seats
h7: Fender or Hood Mounted Turn Signal Indicators
u1: Sold Car When Built (Somebody Ordered It)

As far as I know, in the UBS, code under 'U' should be a letter, not number.

[janimm]

My interior decoded as INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, White and Black Vinyl Bucket Seats.  what did this look like?  white seats with black pleats in the middle?

Ups, a little misspell... It means White Vinyl Bucket Seats with black carpet and dash. I'll fix that...

[sharpspike]

looks like a 8 to me, but im old and blind. what do you think.

[janimm]

Yes, it really looks like an 8, but actually, a 'B' would make more sense. You have black interior, and 'B' under 'U' means that interior side of the doors are painted black. That would match the interior.

[sharpspike]

ill buy that. like i said old and blind. again good work.

note to self: 8's and B's look alike

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 383cid 4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 4-Speed Manual Floor Shift
TIRES: F70x14 White Side Wall, steel belted
BUILD DATE: April 30.
AXLE: 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio, Sure Grip
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. Black Interior.
PAINT: Monotone Medium Gold Metallic Paint.
OTHER: Black Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
P6: Rear Seat Speaker
R1: AM Radio
Y6: Black Vinyl Top

abc OPTIONS:
a5: Center Front Seat
b4: Bucket Seats
h7: Fender or Hood Mounted Turn Signal Indicators
u1: Sold Car When Built (Somebody Ordered It)

[janimm]

Thank you! I fixed the tire codes, but it still doesn't recognise the 3 number tire codes (usually on 67 tags). Does anybody know where to find those?

[jwilk01]

worked perfect for mine.

Later
Josh

CAR: Dodge Charger R/T 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 440cid 4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: F70x14 Red Side Wall, Steel Belted
BUILD DATE: April 13.
AXLE: 3.23 Rear Axle Ratio, Sure Grip
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. Black Interior.
PAINT: Monotone Special Order Paint.
OTHER: Black Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
A1: 26in Radiator
R1: AM Radio
X2: Tinted Windshield Only

abc OPTIONS:
a6: Console
b4: Bucket Seats

[Dennis K]

It worked great for mine, too.
CAR: Dodge Charger R/T 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 426cid Hemi 2x4-bbl HP V8
TRANSMISSION: 4-Speed Manual Floor Shift
TIRES: F70x15 Red Side Wall, nylon belted
BUILD DATE: December 15.
AXLE: 3.54/3.55 Rear Axle Ratio (Dana60 or 8 3/4), Sure Grip
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. Black Interior.
PAINT: Monotone Bronze Metallic Paint.
OTHER: Black Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
A1: 26in Radiator
D9: Front Disk Brakes
H1: Power Brakes
P6: Rear Seat Speaker
R1: AM Radio
T7: Tachometer
Y6: Black Vinyl Top

abc OPTIONS:
a6: Console
b4: Bucket Seats
h7: Fender or Hood Mounted Turn Signal Indicators
u1: Sold Car When Built (Somebody Ordered It)

[Rolling_Thunder]

Worked awesome for me too....

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 318cid 2-bbl V8
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: 7.75x14 White Side Wall
BUILD DATE: October 27.
AXLE: 2.76 Rear Axle Ratio
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. Green Interior.
PAINT: Monotone White Paint.
OTHER: Unknown Color Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
30: Body Belt Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
A1: 26in Radiator
R1: AM Radio
S1: Air Conditioning
X1: Tinted Glass (all)
Y6: Black Vinyl Top

abc OPTIONS:
a6: Console
b4: Bucket Seats
f7: Unknown Option


OK - heres the problem...   decoding it elsewhere shows that the "f7" option is a barracuda only "Formula S"   

[Rocky]

This is really cool.  Nice work.

CAR: Dodge Charger 2 Door Sports Hardtop
ENGINE: 318cid 2-bbl V8
TRANSMISSION: 3-Speed Automatic
TIRES: 7.75x14 White Side Wall
BUILD DATE: June 18.
AXLE: 2.76 Rear Axle Ratio
INTERIOR: Charger Trim Grade, Vinyl Bucket Seats. Black Interior.
PAINT: Monotone Yellow Paint.
OTHER: Black Upper Door Frame Color.

MOLDINGS:
25: Drip Rail Mouldings
78: Wheel Lip Mouldings

ABC OPTIONS:
A1: 26in Radiator
H1: Power Brakes
R1: AM Radio
S1: Air Conditioning
X1: Tinted Glass (all)
Y6: Black Vinyl Top

abc OPTIONS:
a6: Console
b4: Bucket Seats

[RTPTRON]

Worked awesome for me too....


abc OPTIONS:
a6: Console
b4: Bucket Seats
f7: Unknown Option


OK - heres the problem...     decoding it elsewhere shows that the "f7" option is a barracuda only "Formula S"     

Is your car from Canada?  It looks like the f7 could be:

667 Taxi Package Canada
677 Built for xport order
687 Export new car service-Domestic Dealer
697 Special Driveaway
707 Corporate Leasing Systems Car-Quebec Dealer

Or maybe none of the above. 

[janimm]

I'm happy it works this well    I'll do some research on f7 option and add it to decoder when I find more info.

[Rolling_Thunder]

dont think so....   purchased in Auburn, CA and has a mph speedo....    not kph

[Ghoste]

We didn't get metricated up here until the mid 70's, RT, so don't go by the speedo.

[Rolling_Thunder]

hmmmmm   ok...    anything else i can look for ? 

[Ghoste]

Just the export codes on the fender tag or original documentation showing it to be from a Canadian dealer.  Anytime you see a kph speedo for one of our cars, it's from Europe (or Australia too I believe).

[Rolling_Thunder]

oh - ok...    well....    can anyone comfirm the "f7" code is for an export car ?

[Ghoste]

I can't find any export codes for f.  Is f for police options like the 67's?  For 68 export codes to Canada, I only see them as being under the t.

[janimm]

I could not find any info about the "f7" code... Sorry