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FUEL PUMP PUSHROD

Started by Bobs69, November 21, 2010, 02:14:40 PM

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Bobs69

What size socket do I need to get the plug out of the block to remove the fuel pump pushrod.

Just 6T9 CHGR

Pretty sure its a 3/8" Allen head socket
Chris' '69 Charger R/T


Bobs69

3/8 is too big.  Way to big.
5/16 is a little loose.  I was afraid to pull too hard on it.  I know it'll round it out.  Is there something special I'm missing or what.


Thanks in advance guys.

Back N Black


A383Wing

if it rounds out inside, use a spiral type easy out to remove it...then replace it with a new one

chargerbr549

On my 69 440 it took a 5/16 allen head socket to get out the factory pipe plug, I had to buy the socket just for it, over the years yours could have been changed or gotten damaged by using the wrong size allen socket.

Kevin

Bobs69

Years ago when I rebuilt the engine, well freshened it up with new rings and bearings, the block was sent to the machine shop to be dipped (in whatever that stuff is).  I think they widened some oil gallerys and changed the freeze plugs, they probably did pipe plug too?


Bobs69

Well the snap-on dealer didn't think they made a 11/32 allan socket, so I got the 9mm, not even close.  Looks like it's been rounded out.  I've tried welding to it, no luck.  I'm leary of using the easy outs.  I don't want metal fillings getting into the engine.

Any other ideas.

Oh yeah, here in Ontario Canada that one 9mm socket cost almost $28!!!  WOW

Cooter

Don't I know it when it comes to The "Strap-on" Truck, and prices of tools...That Cam bearing tool everybody complains about when they have to pay the machine shop $50.00 to install the cam bearings? Try $300.00 from Snap-On...
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

A383Wing

they make an easy-out set that fits into a socket that has spiral left hand threads on the end...one of those shoulf fit into the rounded out allen head hole..no drilling required

Nacho-RT74

I never have been able to remove it. Still with factory rod on block. EXTREMELLY STUCK
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Cooter

There ain't nuthin' that a torch and a little heat apllied in the right area and amount won't get a loose...Try puttin' a little heat round the plug and see if it'll come loose.
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

A383Wing

Quote from: Cooter on December 17, 2010, 11:14:07 PM
There ain't nuthin' that a torch and a little heat apllied in the right area and amount won't get a loose...Try puttin' a little heat round the plug and see if it'll come loose.


just be careful, and make sure your fuel pump hose is capped off and tight...gas fumes go boom sometimes

Nacho-RT74

Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

FLG

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 18, 2010, 02:20:42 AM
just sometimes huh!?


Yea, depends on where is from...Venezuelan fuel might just break out into a fiesta, while petrol from England tends to just break out into a game of cricket, American gas though is the type that tends to just explode

Bobs69

Quote from: Cooter on December 17, 2010, 06:24:45 PM
Don't I know it when it comes to The "Strap-on" Truck, and prices of tools...That Cam bearing tool everybody complains about when they have to pay the machine shop $50.00 to install the cam bearings? Try $300.00 from Snap-On...

Stap on truck!  haha that a good one.  I'll post some pictures of the ...............actually I won't the spiral left handed thread tools I have do require drilling. 

Bobs69

Quote from: A383Wing on December 17, 2010, 08:47:19 PM
they make an easy-out set that fits into a socket that has spiral left hand threads on the end...one of those shoulf fit into the rounded out allen head hole..no drilling required

Do you have a link to such a tool.  Is this another snap on item?


Nacho-RT74

Quote from: FLG on December 18, 2010, 02:50:32 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on December 18, 2010, 02:20:42 AM
just sometimes huh!?


Yea, depends on where is from...Venezuelan fuel might just break out into a fiesta, while petrol from England tends to just break out into a game of cricket, American gas though is the type that tends to just explode

:smilielol:


well depends, what USA gas, since Citgo is Venezuelan :lol:
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

A383Wing

Quote from: oldcarnut on December 18, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
Another type we use and I believe A833Wing was refering too.
http://www.csnstores.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=OGH1261&refid=TF49-OGH1261
Prices vary all over the place depending where they are.



yup...those are the ones I use at work...

62 Max

Quote from: A383Wing on December 18, 2010, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: oldcarnut on December 18, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
Another type we use and I believe A833Wing was refering too.
http://www.csnstores.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=OGH1261&refid=TF49-OGH1261
Prices vary all over the place depending where they are.



yup...those are the ones I use at work...


Those are actually about the only ones that work! :Twocents:

Bobs69

Quote from: 62 Max on December 18, 2010, 08:19:12 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on December 18, 2010, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: oldcarnut on December 18, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
Another type we use and I believe A833Wing was refering too.
http://www.csnstores.com/asp/show_detail.asp?sku=OGH1261&refid=TF49-OGH1261
Prices vary all over the place depending where they are.



yup...those are the ones I use at work...


Those are actually about the only ones that work! :Twocents:



What do you do with them?  Tap (hammer) them into the rounded hole?

A383Wing

yup...find one that just fits into rounded out hole, tap in with hammer...left hand threads will bit into part harder as you turn it out.....

oldcarnut

Quote from: A383Wing on December 18, 2010, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: oldcarnut on December 18, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
Another type we use and I believe A833Wing was refering too.

yup...those are the ones I use at work...

Sorry man, I just reread my quote and saw I reffered to you as a tranny :lol: :slap:

A383Wing

Quote from: oldcarnut on December 18, 2010, 10:42:36 PM
Quote from: A383Wing on December 18, 2010, 08:09:53 PM
Quote from: oldcarnut on December 18, 2010, 03:52:29 PM
Another type we use and I believe A833Wing was refering too.

yup...those are the ones I use at work...

Sorry man, I just reread my quote and saw I reffered to you as a tranny :lol: :slap:

No worries..I missed it also...

and I've been called worse...
  :smilielol:

Highbanked Hauler

69 Charger 500, original owner  
68 Charger former parts car in process of rebuilding
92 Cummins Turbo Diesel
04 PT Cruiser

A383Wing

Torx bit is not tapered like the spiral easy outs...will probably make hole worse

Bobs69

Quote from: Highbanked Hauler on December 19, 2010, 11:27:40 AM
What about a Torx bit?

Yeah that was suggested to me by a friend awhile back.  Wish I would have tried it now.  The hole is pretty bad now.  I think I'm going to try and get one of those spiral easy outs posted earlier that you don't need to drill a hole for.  I'll have to shop around and see where to buy it here or put it on my shopping list for when I goto the States again. 

Is this a tool that can be any brand name or is it benificial to get it from the Strap-On truck!  STRAP ON TRUCK haha I love that, thanks to whoever posted that.

oldcarnut

For no more than you'll probably use it, most any brand should work,  I cant remember the brand of the one in my work tool box but its not one of those high dollar names and we use them a lot with no problems.  Just make sure it made with good steel.

Purple68

I have used a product in the past called Screw Grab and it works pretty well. It works by filling the gaps between the tool and fastener and creates friction.

Bobs69