Condoms For Your Kids Anyone

[nh_mopar_fan]

This is the same state that provide limo rides to methadone clinics for junkies and is now talking about in-state tuition for illegals.

Nothing surprises me about what lunacy goes on south of here anymore.

[bull]

There's only like 50 that get pregnant at out high school every school year 

And out of those 50, how many are elementary students?

Probably none since he said "high school."

Reminds me of a bus stop ad I saw the other day in Portland congratulating the Marshall High School kids because 77% of them are drug free. Really? Nearly 1/4 of the student body is on drugs and we're supposed to be proud?

[RD]

There's only like 50 that get pregnant at out high school every school year 

And out of those 50, how many are elementary students?

Probably none since he said "high school."

Reminds me of a bus stop ad I saw the other day in Portland congratulating the Marshall High School kids because 77% of them are drug free. Really? Nearly 1/4 of the student body is on drugs and we're supposed to be proud?

well bull.. they "were" being politically correct

[bull]

There's only like 50 that get pregnant at out high school every school year 

And out of those 50, how many are elementary students?

Probably none since he said "high school."

Reminds me of a bus stop ad I saw the other day in Portland congratulating the Marshall High School kids because 77% of them are drug free. Really? Nearly 1/4 of the student body is on drugs and we're supposed to be proud?

well bull.. they "were" being politically correct

I guess that's probably why I think it's so stupid.

[learical1]

well bull.. they "were" being politically correct

Or are they concerned the kids might become potentially erect?

[Tilar]

Well, here's the way I see it happening... They will give these kids the condoms and most of them will believe that it's ok to go pork someone at lunch time, And then we end up with elementary and middle school students, OR their parents listed as sex offenders with the state. But then again with a state like Massivetwoshits, this doesn't surprise me.

[Mike DC]

 
The school was giving me textbooks from an early age.  It never made me want to experiment with doing more homework. 

[41husk]

 
The school was giving me textbooks from an early age.  It never made me want to experiment with doing more homework. 

That is funny

[Ponch ®]

 
The school was giving me textbooks from an early age.  It never made me want to experiment with doing more homework. 

Damn, If I'd only known that all I needed to make chicks wanna bang was show them a rubber....

[John_Kunkel]

I think that way too many here have forgotten at what age you became sexually aware. I remember quite well that I had "the urge" in elementary school but in the early fifties chastity was still in vogue....if it hadn't been I would have been "active" a couple of times a day.

Kids nowadays kids become aware at a younger age so the idea of supplying birth/disease control isn't as far-fetched as the moralists would like to think.

[RD]

I think that way too many here have forgotten at what age you became sexually aware. I remember quite well that I had "the urge" in elementary school but in the early fifties chastity was still in vogue....if it hadn't been I would have been "active" a couple of times a day.

Kids nowadays kids become aware at a younger age so the idea of supplying birth/disease control isn't as far-fetched as the moralists would like to think.

good point.. but it is NOT a matter of could we.. but should we.  

Moralists, as you call us, say we should not and that such information should be the parents decisions.  If those parents that do NOT care that their children receive this service, then that is their choice.  But for those that do NOT want the school to be the local condom dispenser.. then they should have that right also.

The school does NOT have the right to make that decision for all those in question unless the parents have chosen to give up that right.  Again, I do not believe we are getting the whole story here.

[John_Kunkel]

So, if a kid shows up at school with a super infectious dose of the measels and the school officials decide he/she shouldn't be at school they are out of bounds? It's up to the parents to decide whether or not to send him/her to school?

Before declaring that it's an apples/oranges comparison think of the potential of one aids-infected kid in a school with sexually active peers.

[RD]

So, if a kid shows up at school with a super infectious dose of the measels and the school officials decide he/she shouldn't be at school they are out of bounds? It's up to the parents to decide whether or not to send him/her to school?

Before declaring that it's an apples/oranges comparison think of the potential of one aids-infected kid in a school with sexually active peers.

so now.. if the school does not hand out condoms... AIDS will be in their school and then all the parents will bitch because the school didnt hand out condoms?  Your theoretical and far-fetched "apples/oranges" comparison is just you stretching to find purpose for your leftist approach to argue.

I can theorize all day as to why this may happen or that may happen, bring up far-fetched comparisons to try and bolster my viewpoint, but it does not mean that this situation will ever happen.

To answer your question, sending a kid home with measles has absolutely NOTHING to do with sexually explicit information or condom dispensing.  To send a sick child home with something (that you theoretically assumed that the parents did not know about or choose to not know about) is under the purview of the school so as to not spread a airborne or by-touch infectious virus... WHEREAS, AIDS is spread primarily through blood transfusions of infected blood and sexual intercourse. 

Two different diseases, two different modes of infection... CONDOMS WILL NOT PREVENT THE MEASLES.  Just wanted you to know that.. and because of that.. it IS apples to oranges.

You are stretching the limits of your position to try and come up with scare tactics so as to put fear into people so that they submit to the will of the state, or in this case, the school district.  Sorry, not falling for it and your argument is ludicrous, does not hold merit in my eyes. 

If you had some hard evidence that shows that most parents do not know what measles are, or hell... chicken pox for that matter, were in the majority that sent their kids to school with this illness and were oblivious to how it may affect others.. then i would say John.. ur on the money.

But.. you are not.. so I wont.

[John_Kunkel]

so now.. if the school does not hand out condoms... AIDS will be in their school and then all the parents will bitch because the school didnt hand out condoms?

That seems to be the nature of things, blame the moral decay of society on book stores' failure to remove "objectionable" material from their stock.  

I can theorize all day as to why this may happen or that may happen,

Wait, aren't you the one "theorizing" about the effect of handing out condoms? Goose/gander.

To answer your question, sending a kid home with measles has absolutely NOTHING to do with sexually explicit information or condom dispensing.

Maybe not but it's about what parents should be allowed to decide versus what the school decides isn't it?

WHEREAS, AIDS is spread primarily through blood transfusions of infected blood and sexual intercourse.

Thanks for making my point, if the school officials should be allowed to ban a measels-infected kid from potentially spreading the disease why should they be prevented from helping stop the potential infection of AIDS?  

You are stretching the limits of your position to try and come up with scare tactics so as to put fear into people so that they submit to the will of the state, or in this case, the school district.  

No different that your scare tactics that portend moral doom if certain books are allowed.  Your moral compass seems to be in gimbal-lock.

[Ghoste]

I can't claim to be very smart but as a parent of two kids in elementary I do know for certain that I don't want the school to decide when it is appropriate to give them condoms.  I don't care about measles, right, left, hypocrite or even apples and oranges but I do know that I and my wife are the two people who are ultimately responsible for our kids.  Right or wrong it is up to us not some committee.

[RD]

I can't claim to be very smart but as a parent of two kids in elementary I do know for certain that I don't want the school to decide when it is appropriate to give them condoms.  I don't care about measles, right, left, hypocrite or even apples and oranges but I do know that I and my wife are the two people who are ultimately responsible for our kids.  Right or wrong it's is up to us not some committee.

ghoste, ty for simplifying it.. makes much more sense your way rather than me having a spitting match with john.

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i will agree to disagree with you john.. because it doesnt matter what you say, I will NEVER believe your viewpoint.  No how matter how much you try to twist my words to support your position, I will never be in agreeance with you on certain topics.  Your opinion is just so convoluted and insane to me, that I will never understand it.

I can accept that, but I do not believe you are the type to accept it.  

[mikesbbody]

Off topic here but over here (New Zealand) I heard that they were teaching Elementary aged kids about "Family" consisting of "a Mother and father" OR "2 Dad's" or "2 Mom's"...
Call me old fashioned if you like, but I believe a 2 parent family should be a Mother and father  just more liberal B.S

[RECHRGD]

Back in the days of "morals" aids was not a problem.  Condoms were thought of as just a birth control method.  A penicillin shot would take care of just about any of the few STD's that were around.  Unwed mothers and all the associated problems that go with that were rare (at least where I lived).  People seemed to have kids AFTER they were married and most people actually stayed married.  Now that we've been liberalized over the decades things sure are a lot better, aren't they.  Silly me.

[bull]

Back in the days of "morals" aids was not a problem.  Condoms were thought of as just a birth control method.  A penicillin shot would take care of just about any of the few STD's that were around.  Unwed mothers and all the associated problems that go with that were rare (at least where I lived).  People seemed to have kids AFTER they were married and most people actually stayed married.  Now that we've been liberalized over the decades things sure are a lot better, aren't they.  Silly me.

Makes sense, and that's apparently why we don't do it anymore. People make more stupid choices now than ever and yet they think they're so much smarter and "progressive" than their parents and grandparents. There have never been more educated morons than there are now.

[Landonsrt]

I wonder if there are pedophiles  out there thinking.... "Score! This just made my day easier!!"

[Todd Wilson]

Back in the days of "morals" aids was not a problem.  Condoms were thought of as just a birth control method.  A penicillin shot would take care of just about any of the few STD's that were around.  Unwed mothers and all the associated problems that go with that were rare (at least where I lived).  People seemed to have kids AFTER they were married and most people actually stayed married.  Now that we've been liberalized over the decades things sure are a lot better, aren't they.  Silly me.

Makes sense, and that's apparently why we don't do it anymore. People make more stupid choices now than ever and yet they think they're so much smarter and "progressive" than their parents and grandparents. There have never been more educated morons than there are now.

I agree 100% with both of you!


Todd

[John_Kunkel]

Your opinion is just so convoluted and insane to me, that I will never understand it.

Back atcha, I will never understand why some people decry government intervention in their lives but then want to restrict the freedom to publish, sell and read whatever they choose.

You see my opinions as "convoluted" because I'm not stuck with one dogma as so many like you here are, you accuse me of being a Liberal because I choose to disagree with your right-wing blather but, in reality, I'm probably more of a TRUE Conservative than you or many others who think they're Conservatives but are actually just right-wingers.

The only things I take a liberal stand on are personal freedoms and civil liberties and that just happens to be the gist of most of the discussions here that we disagree in.

I can accept that, but I do not believe you are the type to accept it.  

Non sequitur.

[Silver R/T]

I think its ONLY to the parents to decide when their kids should get some sex ed.

[Landonsrt]

I think its ONLY to the parents to decide when their kids should get some sex ed.

the last thing I would want my 6year old little girl worrying about is sex, std's and pregnancy. She needs to be worrying about what to dress her Barbie in and what Santa is going to bring her for being good.

[Todd Wilson]

I think its ONLY to the parents to decide when their kids should get some sex ed.

the last thing I would want my 6year old little girl worrying about is sex, std's and pregnancy. She needs to be worrying about what to dress her Barbie in and what Santa is going to bring her for being good.

Yup!!! I agree!


Todd