Flat black paint..which one?

[FLG]

Well guys,

Seriously considering painting her flat black until I can afford to get the body work done. Seen some 3rd gens and loved em flat. Plus it'll hide some flaws and I won't have to stress cleaning.

What's a good paint to use?

Thanks!

[Charger-Bodie]

Brand isnt a really big deal in this situation.just stay away from the really cheap off brands. The most important thing is to be sure to use base clear ...with a flat clear. Its the best way for achieving unifirnity.

By the way ....flat black does not hide flaws much if any better thatn gloss. Just an fyi.

[69 OUR/TEA]

Like Brian said,def base/clear with a flattening clear.I use PPG's 2060 Flex-n-Flat ,real nice stuff.One other thing to remember,try and get a clean job(dirt or dust)because you can't sand and buff out the dirt nibs.

[Silver R/T]

You can use urethane flat black single stage like this stuff here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Qt-Urethane-HOT-ROD-BLACK-Low-Gloss-Flat-Auto-Car-Paint-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c589967fdQQitemZ190465009661QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools

[PatrickPeeters]

Like Brian said,def base/clear with a flattening clear.I use PPG's 2060 Flex-n-Flat ,real nice stuff.One other thing to remember,try and get a clean job(dirt or dust)because you can't sand and buff out the dirt nibs.

Hi do you have a better pic (somewhere on the forum of your car)
Guessing it's flat black to, like to see
I'm considering also the flat/charcoal black.

Thanks

[FLG]

Id think it somewhat hide some flaws. Either way I like it lol

Was thinking single stage might be better and less work?

[1BAD68]

Seriously considering painting her flat black until I can afford to get the body work done.

If its just temporary and you want to save $$
Try Duplicolor's flat black in the spray can.
I painted mine 3 years ago using 11 cans = approx. $55.00
I rub it out with a cleaner and wipe down with WD-40 once a year and it looks nice.

[Troy]

I've been doing a LOT of research on this. The first question you need to answer is: will you be stripping the car down to bare metal before giving it a "real paint job" or would you like to paint over it at some point? This narrows down your choices of black due to incompatibilities. If you want cheap and somewhat durable but single stage which you'll have to remove try SEM "Hot Rod Black" or - believe it or not - John Deere "Blitz Black" (used inside their cab to reduce glare). Both have good reviews from the rodding and off-road worlds for durability. The SEM paint comes in a kit. Both aren't much more expensive than rattle cans and give a much better result. Some people still prefer DP90 primer. All require some maintenance are can be a challenge to touch up.

There's another brand that can be used as a base to paint over but the name escapes me at the moment.

Honestly, I think if you go base/clear you'll have as much time and money invested as if you actually put it in a gloss color. It will probably look better and last longer but neither of those reasons are important for a "temporary" or "low-buck" job. Might as well paint it once and for all to get the end result you're looking for.

Troy

[FLG]

It is temporary, but id want to paint over it with a nice bc/cc gloss black eventually. The fenders and doors will be (doors already did) stripped down to bare metal, epoxy coated..body work done...ect ect. So it makes no sense to use a black that's going to have me have to strip all that back down when I want to paint that nice gloss on top.

So what do I want to use that can later be scuffed up and painted over?

[PatrickPeeters]

Seriously considering painting her flat black until I can afford to get the body work done.

If its just temporary and you want to save $$
Try Duplicolor's flat black in the spray can.
I painted mine 3 years ago using 11 cans = approx. $55.00
I rub it out with a cleaner and wipe down with WD-40 once a year and it looks nice.

Love the oldschool look.
Saw on ebay one of the Deathproof cars for sale.....looks kinda like yours...(other year off course)

[FLG]

Same here 


Just to elaborate.

The car needs a full resto. But i dont have the money for something like that for someone else to do completely (maybe one day)

My goal for this winter is to,

- Replace both fenders
- Replace both doors
- Fix front valance
- New rear valance
- Remove and polish trim myself
- Replace vinyl roof and repair what needs to be

Ive already got the doors done and sitting in my basement, im waiting on getting the fenders. Once they come in i plan on stripping them down to metal, epoxy, body work, prime..ect

I also plan on doing the same for the engine bay, and under the car (the floors have already been replaced)

The car needs quite a bit of quarter panel work and needs some trunk floor work. I plan on cleaning up these quarters as best as i could for now and hopefully in the next year or two ill have enough funds together for the "nice" work to be done, which if take care of this big chunk will merely be the quarters, trunk floor, whatever other rust there might be, and probably just going over some of my work.

So i want to use a paint now that will limit the "redo" time in the future. I basically want the shop i bring it to, to be able to fix any dents i might have missed on the panels and get em straight, scuff em up and spray. It seems dumb to do all this work and then the next shop has to do all my work over again (esp if i do it correctly the first time and they only have to tweak or fix some of the things i missed)

I dont mind using a bc/cc system as long as i can spray over it in the future, or a single stage that i can spray over.

If i have to go bc/cc do you also wet sand and compound it like you would a glossy bc/cc paint?

[Charger-Bodie]

You can not buff flat paint or clear or it will turn shiny.


I would used base/clear. It will be less of a problem to go back over later.

[FLG]

Gotcha 

So whats the best and economic route for the BC/CC paint?

PPG with some flattening agent? Is there any flattening agent added to the clear as well? or just the paint?

[Charger-Bodie]

The base is normal. The clear I would reccomend for this is the same as 69our/tea.....2060 flexed n flat PPG. Its easy and not bad priced.either.

[PatrickPeeters]

Seriously considering painting her flat black until I can afford to get the body work done.

If its just temporary and you want to save $$
Try Duplicolor's flat black in the spray can.
I painted mine 3 years ago using 11 cans = approx. $55.00
I rub it out with a cleaner and wipe down with WD-40 once a year and it looks nice.

Bumpers looks als different, did you to something to them?
Like to see more pics of the car.

[FLG]

The base is normal. The clear I would reccomend for this is the same as 69our/tea.....2060 flexed n flat PPG. Its easy and not bad priced.either.

Was thinking,

Cant i just go with some flat black lacquer? 

[Charger-Bodie]

The base is normal. The clear I would reccomend for this is the same as 69our/tea.....2060 flexed n flat PPG. Its easy and not bad priced.either.

Was thinking,

Cant i just go with some flat black lacquer? 

You definitely dont want to try spraying a nice finish over that gummy crap...

[1BAD68]

Bumpers looks als different, did you to something to them?
Like to see more pics of the car.

Bumpers are painted. I was in the same boat as FLG except I just concentrated on the mechanical stuff and made it presentable until I got around to the body.
I suck at body work so I just sprayed it with spray cans and my bumpers were pretty bad so I sprayed them too.
Still haven't got around to the body (3 years since I sprayed it) but eventually I will.

[squeakfinder]

1BAD68- Is that a recent picture? That looks real nice. The oil based enamel I used on mine in my avatar started looking like crap after a year an half or so. 

[1BAD68]

The first one I posted is the most recent, about two months ago.
This one is fresh from painting 3 years ago...
I use this stuff called 'Awesome' its a really good cleaner and then I wipe it with some WD-40 and it keeps it looking pretty good and brings the dark black back.
Otherwise it starts to look chalky.

[squeakfinder]

I'm gonna have to try this. They sell Awsome at the dollar store if it's the same stuff your talking about.
And, I'm in the same boat you an FLG are. I've got the mechanical done to where I can drive a long distance but I'm not happy with the body work. Thanks for posting the pics.

[charger2fast4u]

The first one I posted is the most recent, about two months ago.
This one is fresh from painting 3 years ago...
I use this stuff called 'Awesome' its a really good cleaner and then I wipe it with some WD-40 and it keeps it looking pretty good and brings the dark black back.
Otherwise it starts to look chalky.

I like the stripe in the rear did you use paint or get a decal? I'm debating to run flat black primer for awhile or pay the money for a paint job it will be awhile if I go paint to save enough

[FLG]

68 the rattle can method is tempting lool

Looks sweet!


So no go on the lacquer eh? 

[1BAD68]

The stripe is painted, Duplicolor gloss black.
I stripped the body down to bare metal, shot some primer and sprayed the Duplicolor.
Could have it down to bare metal again in about two hours tops with a DA.

[PatrickPeeters]

Looks clean and nice. like it a lot...

[Silver R/T]

http://www.shop.thecoatingstore.com/KemPhlats-Low-Gloss-Urethane-Topcoat_c10.htm

[FLG]

Yes but can I paint over that with bb/cc later down the line?

[Silver R/T]

It's urethane so yes you can put urethane base/clear over that. Personally I'd wait and get it painted right first time around.
I was thinking just shooting my 68 flat black but figured why not get it done right first time. Besides you don't want too much paint build up, stacking paint job on top of another paint job. It'll be prone to rock chipping.

[b5blue]

I've been thinking about the black primer stuff from Eastwood's line of products, someone did an exposure test and it held up well.   

[Patronus]

Any other methods of making a SS satin black finish durable/clean besides WD-40?

[Silver R/T]

Any other methods of making a SS satin black finish durable/clean besides WD-40?

Using urethane paint (2K) that way it won't fade