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Whats the best performing value minded tranny cooler availabe for 727 tranny?

Started by 1Bad70Charger, October 27, 2010, 12:17:43 AM

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1Bad70Charger

Going to be running around next summer about 1200 miles on the streets/highway with a dynamic 9.5 converter in my 69 Roadrunner with its 727 torque flight and 3.90 gears (built 440 engine 525HP) and of course I am going to want to keep things as cool as possible.

Who offers the best valued tranny converter that works like a champ for more aggressive street set-ups and what can I expect to pay?

Also, running a full syn. tranny fluid will also keep things running cooler right?


Thanks in advance.  :cheers:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

Just 6T9 CHGR

Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on October 27, 2010, 12:17:43 AM
Going to be running around next summer about 1200 miles on the streets/highway with a dynamic 9.5 converter in my 69 Roadrunner with its 727 torque flight and 3.90 gears (built 440 engine 525HP) and of course I am going to want to keep things as cool as possible.

Who offers the best valued tranny converter that works like a champ for more aggressive street set-ups and what can I expect to pay?

Also, running a full syn. tranny fluid will also keep things running cooler right?


Thanks in advance.  :cheers:

B & M stacked plate type cooler.

I run this one plumbed with hard line

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70266/

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


BBKNARF

Quote from: Just 6T9 CHGR on October 27, 2010, 09:25:54 PM
Quote from: 1Bad70Charger on October 27, 2010, 12:17:43 AM
Going to be running around next summer about 1200 miles on the streets/highway with a dynamic 9.5 converter in my 69 Roadrunner with its 727 torque flight and 3.90 gears (built 440 engine 525HP) and of course I am going to want to keep things as cool as possible.

Who offers the best valued tranny converter that works like a champ for more aggressive street set-ups and what can I expect to pay?

Also, running a full syn. tranny fluid will also keep things running cooler right?


Thanks in advance.  :cheers:

B & M stacked plate type cooler.

I run this one plumbed with hard line

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BMM-70266/


Yes I agree with Just 6T9 CHGR, I'm using the next size up it works great with my 10" 3600 stall, I also purchased a 9 1/2" stall witch I will run next spring and I'm sure it will be fine  :2thumbs:
68 Charger, slowly in the works, 451 c.i. approx. 535 hp @ the flywheel, so far best time in the 1/4
11.21 @ 119 mph, full exhaust, stock suspension, 4:10s @ 3640 pounds.

1Bad70Charger

Thank you gentleman, that is exactly what I was looking for and the price is right also!  :cheers:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

John_Kunkel


Will the cooler be stand-alone or are you going to run through the radiator too?
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

flyinlow

I like the B&M plate cooler too.

In the old days, I  knew guys who got junkyard A/C condensers for coolers.

1Bad70Charger

Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 28, 2010, 03:32:27 PM

Will the cooler be stand-alone or are you going to run through the radiator too?

Not certain, what do you guys recommend for a hi-perf. street car that will get stuck in traffic in the summer every now and then?

I certainly don't want to make the car's radiator coolant run any hotter than it already will.

Will look to my engine and tranny's builder advice here but also want to see what you guys recommend.

I had an external cooler in mind and want to keep things simple.  The tranny cooler pictured and reference above is an external cooler, right?

Will be running a tranny pan that holds 2 quarts more than stock and will be running a full syn. tranny fluid to keep up with the heat.   Tranny is getting pretty much rebuilt also with high perf. spragues, etc.
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

firefighter3931

I have run many coolers as stand alone units, never a problem. I like the B&M stacked plate unnit shown above and currently have it on the car.  :2thumbs:


Ron
68 Charger R/T "Black Pig" Street/Strip bruiser, 70 Charger R/T 440-6bbl Cruiser. Firecore ignition  authorized dealer ; contact me with your needs

1Bad70Charger

Quote from: firefighter3931 on October 28, 2010, 07:00:03 PM
I have run many coolers as stand alone units, never a problem. I like the B&M stacked plate unnit shown above and currently have it on the car.  :2thumbs:


Ron

That's all I need to hear thank you my friend!  :cheers:
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

Just 6T9 CHGR

Chris' '69 Charger R/T


John_Kunkel


Geography plays a part in the selection, for Chigaco winters I would run through the radiator first. I agree that the B&M plate cooler is the way to go but size can be smaller if the radiator is in the circuit.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

1Bad70Charger

Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 30, 2010, 05:24:06 PM

Geography plays a part in the selection, for Chigaco winters I would run through the radiator first. I agree that the B&M plate cooler is the way to go but size can be smaller if the radiator is in the circuit.

The car is in storage for the Chicago Winters and is now away for the season getting a high performance 440 build and will not be driven again until April.

Does that change your mind at all that it will not be fired up once this season in the cold weather (its in a heated garage for the winter)?
48 year old Self Employed Trial Lawyer (I fight the ambulance chasers); 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner A12 Tribute Car, Built 505ci; Silver 2008 Hemi Dodge Challenger SRT8, Black 2006 Corvette Z06 427ci LS7-Keep God First, Family Second and Horsepower Third.  Interests:  God, Fast American Cars (old and new), Classic Muscle Cars, German Sheperds, Guns, Animals and the Great Outdoors (sick of Chicago).

John_Kunkel



"My mind" says always run through the radiator if available but that's just me, lots of people run a stand-alone cooler. When doing so I would go as big as the real estate allows.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

flyinlow

I have a large B&M plate cooler that I run stand alone with my a518 trans. The fluid temp is taken in the pan. Summer  temps 150* F on the road, 180* stuck in traffic. I drive the Charger in the winter if the roads are clear in Ohio (has the best heater of any car I own). Starting from a 40* garage it takes about 15 minutes before the the temp even starts to read 100* which is the bottom of gauge and never gets over about 140* on a 20* day. Not sure if the trans can be too cold. I use synthetic ATF4 fluid which I believe is the normal fluid for modern RWD mopar transmissions and should handle extreme heat and cold well . 

John_Kunkel

Quote from: flyinlow on October 31, 2010, 05:52:12 PM
Not sure if the trans can be too cold.

Yes, it can, that's my argument for running through the radiator in cold climes.

Condensation inside the trans is more pronounced during the winter and if the trans doesn't attain enough temperature to cook off trapped moisture the moisture will pollute the fluid.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

flyinlow

"Yes, it can, that's my argument for running through the radiator in cold climes"

Do you run thru the cooler first?

John_Kunkel

Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.