Calling All Members With Number Matching Engines... Please Post SPDs & EADs...

[xs29j8Bullitt]

My 70 Charger has a SPD of B12, on the engine it says "10  302 ". I assume 10 is October, and 302 is the 302nd day of the year?

The date on the Engine ID Pad is not a "Julian" date.  I assume you are seeing something like "10  30    2"?  This would be for  an EAD of October 30, 1969 which is about the date for a SPD of November 12, 1969.  The "2" on the right side indicates "2nd" shift...

Does it look about like this one?

[rick.d]

Here is a picture, hope this helps. This would mean my engine had a build date of Oct. 30, 2nd shift and the car was built November 12th?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

Here is a picture, hope this helps. This would mean my engine had a build date of Oct. 30, 2nd shift and the car was built November 12th?

Yes... The way that I would read it is:

F383 - F Series (1970) 383 CID engine

10   30 2 - Engine Assy Date - 10th month (October), 30th day, 2nd shift (notice "2" is shifted down, probably due to being stamped separately)
Note: Some websites say the last entry on this line is the sequence # that the engine was that day, but I seriously doubt that claim... but it would be helpful if could we get more 383 ID Pad pictures posted, especially 1968-1971...)

HP - High Performance engine

As for the car build date, it apparently was scheduled to be built November 12, 1969 based on the "B12" stated in your first post, assuming that was from your fender tag or broadcast sheet...  The car could have been built on that date, or just as likely several days later... there is no way to be certain at this point.

Allen

[DC_1]

Good stuff! mines already packed away for the winter but if I will provide mine when I can

[rick.d]

So would the last 6 of the vin, and the sequence number off the build sheet be helpful?....

Order #B12092602, Sequence #0070555, last 6 159060. I have buildsheet to two other chargers that i found in my car too. I can dig those out this weekend, as i would assume they were damn close to my car on the assy. line. Also there was a thread on here a while ago, a member from Texas bought a 70 500 SE from a local Mopar dealer near me that was on Ebay and that car was only a few numbers off from mine..But when he got it he found the frame was repaired near the torsion bar anchor point. The guy also had a 68 Charger, so if anyone, remembers perhaps you could get that info too and complete another piece of the puzzle?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

So would the last 6 of the vin, and the sequence number off the build sheet be helpful?....

Order #B12092602, Sequence #0070555, last 6 159060.

The last 6 of the VIN is useful,  and the first 3 of the Order No. confirms the SPD of November 12th...  some of the Subject Matter Experts lurking about may have insight into what other information might be useful...  I hope that they will join in posting on this thread!

BTW, could you provide the block casting date from the passenger side of the block, along the upper edge near the back of the block...?

Not much of an update, but here is what I have:

[375instroke]

'69 Charger
SPD=904
Engine reads:
E440
9 9 HP2

[xs29j8Bullitt]

'69 Charger
SPD=904
Engine reads:
E440
9 9 HP2

Thanks!  Do know for sure if it is the original engine (by checking the VIN Pad)?

If so, your car is an example of an Engine Assembly Date (Sept 9, 1968) after the Scheduled Production Date (Sept 4, 1968)... not too uncommon.

I will add yours on the next update.

Allen

[375instroke]

@ xs29j8Bullitt:
I noticed that.  As far as I can tell, the motor and trans are original.  The complete VIN is stamped on the motor and trans.  I hear that isn't very unusual.  I don't see anything strange with the machining of the pads, or the way the numbers are stamped.  The motor build date is also only 5 days from the SPD.  Could a September 4 SPD, being early in the new year production, be a good reason for this?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

@ xs29j8Bullitt:
I noticed that.  As far as I can tell, the motor and trans are original.  The complete VIN is stamped on the motor and trans.  I hear that isn't very unusual.  I don't see anything strange with the machining of the pads, or the way the numbers are stamped.  The motor build date is also only 5 days from the SPD.  Could a September 4 SPD, being early in the new year production, be a good reason for this?

That could be an extra reason, but it seemed to have happened throughout the year... as you said, not very unusual.  I have heard of two week overlaps, implying the car may have been built as much as three weeks (or more) after the SPD.  I imagine other factors played a hand in it as well, like parts shortages, strikes, and overly aggressive scheduling...  Thanks again for the input, and if you can provide other stamping/casting  information or a VIN (or partial VIN), I will add the data along with what you already provided.  Don't provide anything you are uncomfortable with sharing... 'Cuz once its on the Internet... 

Allen

[375instroke]

What would be harmful with providing complete VIN numbers, or anything else?

[xs29j8Bullitt]

What would be harmful with providing complete VIN numbers, or anything else?

Some folks have various concerns, and a few even go to the point of denying they own some cars.  Some may have some legitimate reasons, like the car is stored in public storage that anyone with bolt cutters can access.  They may fear that they will be tracked down by the registration of the car if they publish the VIN number.  But, my view is that anyone can walk up to it at a show and get the VIN number or license plate number.

I still withhold a few of my VINs, solely because I am trying to track down components like VIN stamped engines & transmissions.  A friend had his numbers matching engine bought by someone who then located him through the Texas DMV and offered him the rebuildable Hemi for $40,000.

As I exhaust my efforts to locate a missing item through "networking", I let the VINs out... here's a few:

XX29L9B238071 ... still missing numbers matching engine
BS23V0E115739...  still missing number matching transmission
JH23J0B307265...  all number's matching!
RM23U0A170221... still missing numbers matching engine

I just wanted let everyone know that once the information is on the 'Net, its there forever.

I personally believe that with the powerful search capabilities available for less than $100 over the Internet, there is probably little real reason for most folks to withhold the full VIN, and no reason for anyone not to release date & other stamping info...  

[rick.d]

BTW, could you provide the block casting date from the passenger side of the block, along the upper edge near the back of the block...?

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[xs29j8Bullitt]

BTW, could you provide the block casting date from the passenger side of the block, along the upper edge near the back of the block...?

2468130 11

The casting date should be right above that casting number in the form XX - XX - XX, see earlier posted pic.

Here is the latest "eye chart"...   On the next update, I will either host the image(s) on PhotoBucket, or post the Excel file itself.  Can everyone open Excel spreadsheet files?  Email me if that would be a problem...

Allen

[paironines]

My car:  XS29L9G261***
Tag SPD:  506
Pad on 440:  E 440, 4  28,  HP

Lots of good info in this thread btw....

[Hud]

Here is some of my info, dont want to disassemble anything at the moment to check the block. Still this is pretty interesting in regards to how to read the info.

[Sixt8Chrgr]

Thanks for doing this. The timing is perfect for me...I am looking for the correct dated block for my 68 H code Charger. Have the tranny and rear end but not the block.

The SPD is Dec 21, 1967. I will wait to see if you get many 68 383's before I go on the hunt.

Again thanks!

[richRTSE]

engine pad:

E 440

9 28 HP

CASTING: 8 * 5 * 68

2536430-9


SPD: 929

VIN: XX29L9B162---

[charger lover74]

where would i find these numbers on my 1969 charger 318?