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Since I am on the McDonalds kick as of lately...

Started by RD, October 17, 2010, 05:32:52 PM

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RD

see here for first installment:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,74337.0.html

here for this installment:

http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93724?fp=1

very interesting commercial from France in regards to a gay young man.  This is the first openly gay specific commercial from McDonalds and was geared specifically for the French community/viewers.

Without becoming extreme homophobes or being downright mean (because believe it or not, there are most likely homosexual forum members on this board), what are your thoughts on this?

REMEMBER, please be nice.  Simply saying you disagree with it is enough.. you dont have to go into some Fred Phelps tirade because it will just make you look like a bigot and an idiot.

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My opinion... I think it is okay.  It does not bother me at all.

Now before some of you say, "hey! Aren't you a Christian?"  Yes, I am a Christian and the Bible says this type of behavior/lifestyle is not to be glorified or supported BUT... Jesus also told me to "love thy neighbor".  Just because I do not agree with it, does not mean I have to be a jerk about it.  
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Tilar

I think they made closets for a reason, and it wasnt for them to come prancing out of.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



RD

Quote from: Tilar on October 17, 2010, 06:54:52 PM
I think they made closets for a reason, and it wasnt for them to come prancing out of.

thanks for making your opinion funny!  i got a laugh out of that one! :D
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bull

I bet the mods just love having to police these kinds of threads. What's the point? To see how well we can dance around our true feelings while being as politically correct as possible trying to express them? I think it's what you call an exercise in futility.

Anyway, while I'm here...

Gay French is a redundancy, isn't it?

RD

good point.  just thought the whole "first gay mcdonalds commercial" was somewhat a stepping stone in regards to cultural acceptance.  maybe i should just quit thinking :D
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bull

What can I say? I like women and I think men that don't are messed up. McDonald's trying to make money off the idea is messed up too. :shruggy: So sue me.

RD

 :hah:
Quote from: bull on October 17, 2010, 11:20:49 PM
What can I say? I like women and I think men that don't are messed up. McDonald's trying to make money off the idea is messed up too. :shruggy: So sue me.

bwhahhahahhahahah   :rofl: :rofl:
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Tilar

Quote from: RD on October 17, 2010, 10:09:04 PM
just thought the whole "first gay mcdonalds commercial" was somewhat a stepping stone in regards to cultural acceptance.

To me that is like being politically correct, and I've never understood why some people think that should be a requirement of everyone else.  :shruggy:  Too much dancing around the issues in order to not hurt someones feelings. I guess they didn't take into account that sometimes things need to be put back into perspective.

I don't frequent McDonalds very often, but I do like their fish sandwich... Now I have another arguement for when I'm try to decide on McDonalds, Wendy's or Burger King. Too bad there are no Sonic Drive-in's around here.  :drool5:

When kids go through puberty some of them get sexually confused only to have people cram down their throats that "gay is ok", Well it's not. It's abnormal. I know some people lean that way but they are even trying to teach it in school which is the one place it should NOT be taught. I think it does more damage than good.  I'll get off my :soapbox: now.

Quote from: bull on October 17, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
Anyway, while I'm here...

Gay French is a redundancy, isn't it?

:smilielol:  I think it's a way of life over there. I'm surprised their population count doesn't drop like a rock.
Dave  

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bill440rt

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Todd Wilson

Great, now I associate a greasy cornhole with McDonalds now..................


Todd


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Ponch ®

Quote from: Todd Wilson on October 18, 2010, 10:02:02 AM
Great, now I associate a greasy cornhole with McDonalds now..................


Todd



So this commercial is turning you off greasy cornholes?

I'm not gonna get into the whole issue of whether homosexuality is acceptable or not. But really...who cares. McDonalds is doing what any smart money making enterprise should do - appeal to all segments of the buying public.

Tilar -a 'sexually confused' pubescent kid doesn't need someone to tell him 'gay is ok'. If he's got the proclivity to go blow a guy, he's gonna do it, gay friendly McDonalds commercial or not. Besides, there is no being "confused". Either you're straight, gay, bi, or just trying to repress one or the other.
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nh_mopar_fan

It would seem to me that if your goal is to appeal to all segments of the buying public, you:

1. don't start singling certain groups out
2. don't pick subjects that you know for a fact will turn a percentage of the population off.

But then, I find the McDonalds commercials featuring all black actors and boogie type music to be sterotypical and insulting as well.

:Twocents:

Ponch ®

Quote from: nh_mopar_fan on October 18, 2010, 12:08:56 PM
It would seem to me that if your goal is to appeal to all segments of the buying public, you:

1. don't start singling certain groups out
2. don't pick subjects that you know for a fact will turn a percentage of the population off.

But then, I find the McDonalds commercials featuring all black actors and boogie type music to be sterotypical and insulting as well.

:Twocents:

all vailid points, but by the same token if you don't show certain types on a commercial, you're turning that segment of the population off, or at least making them feel ignored.  But I certainly agree that some of these advertising campaigns can backfire. That's why I'm glad we live in a society where you can express your opinion with your wallet.
"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

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ACUDANUT

 It also says in the Bible....Romans Chapter one that Homo's are going to hell.  God Created Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.   :smilielol:

Ponch ®

"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

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Tilar

Quote from: Ponch ® on October 18, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on October 18, 2010, 10:02:02 AM
Great, now I associate a greasy cornhole with McDonalds now..................


Todd



So this commercial is turning you off greasy cornholes?

I'm not gonna get into the whole issue of whether homosexuality is acceptable or not. But really...who cares.

I do, and I don't want anyone teaching my kids that it is acceptable. What you do in your bedroom behind closed(or closet) doors is your business, but they don't need to teach it to the kids.

edit: And no Ponch, I don't mean you personally.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Ponch ®

Quote from: Tilar on October 18, 2010, 12:37:56 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on October 18, 2010, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: Todd Wilson on October 18, 2010, 10:02:02 AM
Great, now I associate a greasy cornhole with McDonalds now..................


Todd



So this commercial is turning you off greasy cornholes?

I'm not gonna get into the whole issue of whether homosexuality is acceptable or not. But really...who cares.

I do, and I don't want anyone teaching my kids that it is acceptable. What you do in your bedroom behind closed(or closet) doors is your business, but they don't need to teach it to the kids.

edit: And no Ponch, I don't mean you personally.

Not to sound flippant, but if a parent does a good job raising/teaching his kids, then what other people say won't matter much, will it?

All I'm saying is that when I was a kid someone could have told me gay was ok all they wanted, but I had no inclination whatsoever to go that route and it wouldn't have convinced me otherwise.

Now I do get that sometimes they do try a little too hard (like with the "Brokeback Mountain" gay movie craze a few years ago), but then so does everyone with an agenda to push their morals/values/beliefs on others, from the creationists to the anti-gun nuts.
"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

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Tilar

Quote from: Ponch ® on October 18, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Not to sound flippant, but if a parent does a good job raising/teaching his kids, then what other people say won't matter much, will it?

The kids of the parents that do a good job aren't the ones I'd worry about. It's the kids of the single mom that works nights so the kids have food on the table but doesn't get to say much more than "Listen to what your teacher has to say" and "study hard"?  Point is kids that age are like clay and very easily molded.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Ponch ®

Quote from: Tilar on October 18, 2010, 01:20:16 PM
Quote from: Ponch ® on October 18, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Not to sound flippant, but if a parent does a good job raising/teaching his kids, then what other people say won't matter much, will it?

The kids of the parents that do a good job aren't the ones I'd worry about. It's the kids of the single mom that works nights so the kids have food on the table but doesn't get to say much more than "Listen to what your teacher has to say" and "study hard"?  Point is kids that age are like clay and very easily molded.

well, FWIW, I was that kid...and i still didn't turn gay or liberal (thank God) or joined a gang. Maybe I'm just special  :shruggy:
"I spent most of my money on cars, birds, and booze. The rest I squandered." - George Best

Chrysler Performance West

jdiesel33

Quote from: ACUDANUT on October 18, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
It also says in the Bible....Romans Chapter one that Homo's are going to hell.  God Created Adam and Eve. Not Adam and Steve.   :smilielol:

It also says drunkards wont inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, but I'll bet plenty of folks on here(as in any other segment of the population) do their fair share of indulging and over-indulging in alcohol.  :shruggy: Just sayin'.
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Todd Wilson


bull

Quote from: jdiesel33 on October 18, 2010, 01:47:06 PM
It also says drunkards wont inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, but I'll bet plenty of folks on here(as in any other segment of the population) do their fair share of indulging and over-indulging in alcohol.  :shruggy: Just sayin'.

Just sayin' what? That being a drunkard is ok?

Quote from: Ponch ® on October 18, 2010, 01:21:56 PM
Not to sound flippant, but if a parent does a good job raising/teaching his kids, then what other people say won't matter much, will it?

Yes and no. If/when you have kids you'll probably understand better what I'm about to say but as a parent you really get tired of constantly having to make sure your kids are deprogrammed from the constant pecking of alternate moralities they're taught in school, advertising and society in general. And the homosexual agenda is much more morally ascerbic than the other stuff parents have to deal with because of the sexual element involved. Not only are they teaching society a certain type of morality that's often at odds with what many parents believe there's the sexual overtones, so it's doubly offensive. I think my wife and I do a good job but it wears you down. It's like having to paint your fence twice a week to cover up graffiti. Sure you do a good job each time you paint it but damn you get tired of doing it over and over.

jdiesel33

Quote from: bull on October 18, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: jdiesel33 on October 18, 2010, 01:47:06 PM
It also says drunkards wont inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, but I'll bet plenty of folks on here(as in any other segment of the population) do their fair share of indulging and over-indulging in alcohol.  :shruggy: Just sayin'.

Just sayin' what? That being a drunkard is ok?

No, just saying that it is curious how people pick and choose things from the Bible or whatever belief system to fit their needs. The Bible states that Drunkards, homosexuals, adulterers, thieves, know it alls, etc., will not go to Heaven, but a lot people, especially those who fall into one or more of those groups, will speak out against, ridicule, or harass those that fall into another one of those groups.  Out of all of those, the homosexual one is ALWAYS at the forefront for some reason. Most people ignore the rest. That has just always seemed a little odd to me.
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