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Neutral safety switch

Started by Hemidog, October 13, 2010, 09:34:33 AM

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Hemidog

I have the later 3 prong NSS, and managed to break one of the pins, now the BU lights don't come on.

I bought a new NSS switch and connector (the old did not stay on), but now the car will not crank, but the BU lights work.

I tested the old switch for current(continuency?) and the multimeter beeps when:
-I touch the outer pins and the switch is NOT pressed in (which is the reverse lights)
-I touch the middle pin and the metal part of the switch (pressed in)

The multimeter does NOT beep when I touch the middle pin and metal part of the switch when it is pressed in on the new switch.

What gives? I know the old switch worked, and they are physically identical as far as I can see  :shruggy: Other than that the return spring on the old switch is worn.

There isn't different types for different years, and the look alike?
Faulty new NSS?


Nacho-RT74

as far I know the middle pin has continuity with center contact ALLWAYS. No need to keep pressed. Round end desing is just to run over the roostercomb untill meets with metal sections of it, giving the ground signal

Is correct, outer pins have continuity with button out. Then cuts when pressing in... plastic section. center metal has nothing to do with reverse and as I stated, must keep continuity with center pin, plastic prerssed or not.

IN FACT inside the tranny the ground position works normally with plastic pressed in, since plastic only jumps out on reverse
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

mikepmcs

I have to leave mine unconnected because it causes the reverse lights to be on in drive as well as reverse. :scratchchin:


Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Hemidog

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 13, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
as far I know the middle pin has continuity with center contact ALLWAYS. No need to keep pressed. Round end desing is just to run over the roostercomb untill meets with metal sections of it, giving the ground signal

Is correct, outer pins have continuity with button out. Then cuts when pressing in... plastic section. center metal has nothing to do with reverse and as I stated, must keep continuity with center pin, plastic prerssed or not.

IN FACT inside the tranny the ground position works normally with plastic pressed in, since plastic only jumps out on reverse

So if the center pin and the metal piece of the button does not have continuity, then the NSS must be faulty?

Hemidog

Quote from: mikepmcs on October 13, 2010, 10:25:34 AM
I have to leave mine unconnected because it causes the reverse lights to be on in drive as well as reverse. :scratchchin:
So you have no reverse lights?  Sound like it is a problem with the transmission switch between the reverse and the other gears.

mikepmcs

No, when i plug my new NSS in and i'm in park, no lights.  when i put it in reverse, i have lights, and when i put it in drive the reverse lights are still on too. So i unplugged the thing. I've have put 2 new switches in it, same thing.


If the old NSS worked I would take a pin off the new one and adhere it to the old one or if you have the old broken pin, cold weld that bad boy back on there.  That could work.
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

John_Kunkel


If the BU lights stay on in gears other than Reverse, either the plastic shoe is broken off of the roostercomb or the wrong roostercomb is installed in the trans.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

Hemidog

Quote from: John_Kunkel on October 13, 2010, 01:48:07 PM

If the BU lights stay on in gears other than Reverse, either the plastic shoe is broken off of the roostercomb or the wrong roostercomb is installed in the trans.
Hey, John, do you think my new NSS is faulty?

mikepmcs

Thanks John.  Guess I'll just run it as is.  :lol:
Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: Hemidog on October 13, 2010, 10:52:03 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 13, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
as far I know the middle pin has continuity with center contact ALLWAYS. No need to keep pressed. Round end desing is just to run over the roostercomb untill meets with metal sections of it, giving the ground signal

Is correct, outer pins have continuity with button out. Then cuts when pressing in... plastic section. center metal has nothing to do with reverse and as I stated, must keep continuity with center pin, plastic prerssed or not.

IN FACT inside the tranny the ground position works normally with plastic pressed in, since plastic only jumps out on reverse

So if the center pin and the metal piece of the button does not have continuity, then the NSS must be faulty?

thats my guess

wait a minute... you have a 68 right ? why the 3 prongs switch ? shouldn't have the one pin switch ?, or did you changed the tranny allong with the engine ( noticing you have a 400 ) ? or maybe roostercomb ?
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Nacho-RT74

Quote from: mikepmcs on October 13, 2010, 12:40:06 PM
If the old NSS worked I would take a pin off the new one and adhere it to the old one

not that easy! BTDT
Venezuelan RT 74 400 4bbl, 727, 8.75 3.23 open. Now stroked with 440 crank and 3.55 SG. Here is the History and how is actually: http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,7603.0/all.html
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,25060.0.html

Hemidog

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 13, 2010, 10:42:28 PM
Quote from: Hemidog on October 13, 2010, 10:52:03 AM
Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on October 13, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
as far I know the middle pin has continuity with center contact ALLWAYS. No need to keep pressed. Round end desing is just to run over the roostercomb untill meets with metal sections of it, giving the ground signal

Is correct, outer pins have continuity with button out. Then cuts when pressing in... plastic section. center metal has nothing to do with reverse and as I stated, must keep continuity with center pin, plastic prerssed or not.

IN FACT inside the tranny the ground position works normally with plastic pressed in, since plastic only jumps out on reverse


So if the center pin and the metal piece of the button does not have continuity, then the NSS must be faulty?

thats my guess

wait a minute... you have a 68 right ? why the 3 prongs switch ? shouldn't have the one pin switch ?, or did you changed the tranny allong with the engine ( noticing you have a 400 ) ? or maybe roostercomb ?
My drivetrain has been changed, so it has the 69-later NSS.