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Started by 4cruzin, September 30, 2010, 11:09:13 AM

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twodko

Should I be worried I see General Lee.......................in full uniform with saber et al?
FLY NAVY/Marine Corps or take the bus!

JT01

This is a charger site for all of us owners and it blows me away how some of the people get on here and say they depise General Lees and stuff like that. WHO cares if you like them or not we dont tell the people that dont have Generals we depise there cars because its not one. Ive seen a few 68 and 69 Chargers on here that I dont peronally like but I would never say anything mean about them because I repect all the owners of these cars because we have the same passion for them nomatter what they are. Like i said before the Dukes is what got me into 69 Chargers and its the same for others on here im building my General and sometime I want another 69 thats a all original R/T that way i can have the best of both worlds.

Rustymuscle

Well, it's not necessarily hating General Lee's as it is hating BAD General Lee's. There's nothing quite as bad as a wrong-year Charger or even a non-Charger dressed up as the good ol' General.

We did a Top 10 list of our favorite "Bad Generals." Check it out!
http://www.streetlegaltv.com/forum_sltv/sltvs-top-10-worst-general-lee-5905.html

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1970 Dodge Super Bee
2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4
2005 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT HEMI

JT01

Not to step on anybodys toes but I dont like seeing 68s or 70s done up like Generals if your going to do it do it right.

69bronzeT5

I still think it was a waste to use such a nice car to make into a GL.....especially since it isn't even the right year.
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1969 Charger: T5 Copper 383 Automatic
1970 Challenger R/T: FC7 Plum Crazy 440 Automatic
1970 GTO: Black 400 Ram Air III 4-Speed
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1972 Charger: FE5 Red 360 Automatic
1973 Charger Rallye: FY1 Top Banana 440 Automatic
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TylerCharger69

Yes...I know this topic has been beaten to death....but  anyway....I have a General Lee myself......because I love it!!!!   However... looking at the '68 in its original "R/T" form and converting it into a GL.....I dont agree with that at all.  The car appeared to be factory original and in exceptional condition.  It should have been left alone...but   well.....it IS his car...let him do what he wants with it!!!     It is a shame though

6pkrunner

Quote from: Rustymuscle on October 01, 2010, 06:40:53 PM

We did a Top 10 list of our favorite "Bad Generals." Check it out!


Actually I love the Tracker with the 1/2 and the 4x4 General. Hey if you're going to go - go all the way. The chassis off a tank may have been better than the 4x4 gear, but one has to make do with what they got.

loudmouthaussie

moronic messin with such a nice 68.
someone wanted to buy my 70 to make a GL clone and i had to ask em "why? the G was a 69!" no you cant have it!  :lol:
1970 PLYMOUTH SUPERBIRD. 440/6BBL/BENCH/AUTO/VITAMIN C.
1979 FORD RANCHERO GT 351.
1960 AUSTIN HEALEY MK1 BUGEYE SPRITE 1275/4 SPEED.

Sabre

I'm one of the biggest Dukes/General Lee fans out there and yes I agree with you guys.  I wouldn't have converted such a nice factory R/T into a GL.  I do have a question for you guys though, would you have said the same thing had he painted the car something else?  Or is the dislike simply towards a GL clone?

For those of you who can't figure out why some Charger owners convert a Charger to a GL, it's simple.  There are alot of people and car guys who think the General Lee looks bad ass.  I don't own a Charger but I like the color, the 01, the flag on the roof, the General Lee text next to the flag, the push bar, rollcage, etc.  It all looks bad ass to me, it's not because I want to relive my youth or play as a Duke boy.  I would guess most GL owners feel the same way, they think the paint job set up is awesome.

Sabre

Quote from: 69bronzeT5 on October 01, 2010, 10:24:21 PM
I still think it was a waste to use such a nice car to make into a GL.....especially since it isn't even the right year.

Actually 43% of the Chargers used on the Dukes of Hazzard were in fact 68 Chargers, but they were convereted to look like 69s.

Sabre

Quote from: Akron_Charger on September 30, 2010, 11:24:37 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on September 30, 2010, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: SRT-440 on September 30, 2010, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on September 30, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
Sad that the "1" is on crooked.  :hah:

Not sure which series GL it was but one had a crooked "1"..I bet it was done on purpose.   :2thumbs:



Well there ya go. Didn't know that one of the series cars was on that way.


Actually and I dont know what episode it is, but during the first season when the Duke boys pull up to either the pond or the farm in the General Lee, the number is 10, not 01


It was a reverse camera angle.

MoparManJim

Quote from: Sabre on October 02, 2010, 06:28:13 PM
Quote from: Akron_Charger on September 30, 2010, 11:24:37 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on September 30, 2010, 12:13:29 PM
Quote from: SRT-440 on September 30, 2010, 12:08:50 PM
Quote from: bakerhillpins on September 30, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
Sad that the "1" is on crooked.  :hah:

Not sure which series GL it was but one had a crooked "1"..I bet it was done on purpose.   :2thumbs:



Well there ya go. Didn't know that one of the series cars was on that way.


Actually and I dont know what episode it is, but during the first season when the Duke boys pull up to either the pond or the farm in the General Lee, the number is 10, not 01


It was a reverse camera angle.

And it was in the episode "Limo One Is Missing" where Bo pulls the General down over a embankment side next to a pond and a motor cycle cop going flying into the pond because he was chasing the General and Bo and had hid down over the embankment. When Bo pulled the General  down over they shows the pass side of the car in as the film was flip. This gave the General Lee #10 instead of #01. 

NHCharger

Quote from: Sabre on October 02, 2010, 06:23:58 PM
  I do have a question for you guys though, would you have said the same thing had he painted the car something else?  Or is the dislike simply towards a GL clone?

If he had painted it as a Starsky & Hutch Torino, a Hazzard patrol car or a One Adam 12 patrol car I still would have questioned why. 
I personally like G/L clones but you should use the right year. I've been thinking about a Bullitt clone for the last few years but that doesn't mean I'm going to paint my 383 matching #s Hemi Orange 71 Charger SE car black.
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autodynamics

Quote from: JT01 on October 01, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
This is a charger site for all of us owners and it blows me away how some of the people get on here and say they depise General Lees and stuff like that. WHO cares if you like them or not we dont tell the people that dont have Generals we depise there cars because its not one. Ive seen a few 68 and 69 Chargers on here that I dont peronally like but I would never say anything mean about them because I repect all the owners of these cars because we have the same passion for them nomatter what they are. Like i said before the Dukes is what got me into 69 Chargers and its the same for others on here im building my General and sometime I want another 69 thats a all original R/T that way i can have the best of both worlds.


perfect could not have said it better..  The best is who are these people giving opioions about other peoples rides. that takes some set of balls. truth is allot of the guys on here have some shity chargers imo. but i dont see anyone calling them out. i would have NO problem with anyone building a general lee.

Charger-Bodie

I think the main gripe people were having with this car is that they took an (aledgedly) nice R/T to build it from and then got sick of it right away.....I cant say much though because I have a Daytona clone thats built from what was left of a real R/T.
68 Charger R/t white with black v/t and red tailstripe. 440 4 speed ,black interior
68 383 auto with a/c and power windows. Now 440 4 speed jj1 gold black interior .
My Charger is a hybrid car, it burns gas and rubber............

68coronetGLwannabe

Quote from: chargerman67 on September 30, 2010, 10:30:16 PM
They just want to be able to use a rebel flag without looking racist.

I don't think so. That's the is on big line of bull! Its history and heritage not always about hate.

Why I did it. I loved the show as a kid. I love all the attention and its a Charger which is a blast to drive no matter what color it is. It can always be brought back to what ever you like when you own it. I don't think it was any cheaper to do a GL Than something else. Glad I am a Mopar enthusiast not a purist and don't have to question other people cars. I spent plenty of long days and late nights with busted bloody knuckles putting mine together as many guys on this site have. It doesn't matter what it started out as, as long as you are happy with it in the end. We build them for ourselves not everybody else.
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"That's us in 10 years".
He said "That's a mirror, dip-shit!

The70RT

Quote from: 1HotDaytona on October 03, 2010, 11:33:01 AM
I think the main gripe people were having with this car is that they took an (aledgedly) nice R/T to build it from and then got sick of it right away.....I cant say much though because I have a Daytona clone thats built from what was left of a real R/T.

Yeah but people see yours as an upgrade and it will never go back to what it was. Most people would have never restored a car in that condition like you did anyway.  :Twocents:
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Brock Lee

Part of it is also the fact that most that come here are looking to preserve Chargers. That car was a nice, accurate car that is no longer a factory color inside or out. It goes against the preservation grain. But so does flat black Chargers with custom interiors.

The flag, If you were born and live in say Pennsylvania or Germany, the heritage is not part of the equation.

However, in the context of the Jenny Lee, I don't think it carries the negative stigma it does displayed alone. That is pretty powerful iconography.

TylerCharger69

 :iagree:   Everyone knows they cant be a GL without the flag....Its not a matter of racism...it just belongs....and thats one of the main traits people look for.

Darkman

Quote from: autodynamics on October 03, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: JT01 on October 01, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
This is a charger site for all of us owners and it blows me away how some of the people get on here and say they depise General Lees and stuff like that. WHO cares if you like them or not we dont tell the people that dont have Generals we depise there cars because its not one. Ive seen a few 68 and 69 Chargers on here that I dont peronally like but I would never say anything mean about them because I repect all the owners of these cars because we have the same passion for them nomatter what they are. Like i said before the Dukes is what got me into 69 Chargers and its the same for others on here im building my General and sometime I want another 69 thats a all original R/T that way i can have the best of both worlds.


perfect could not have said it better..  The best is who are these people giving opioions about other peoples rides. that takes some set of balls. truth is allot of the guys on here have some shity chargers imo. but i dont see anyone calling them out. i would have NO problem with anyone building a general lee.

:iagree: I personally don't like Daytona's but never hassle anyone that has one or converted any kind of Charger into one. If you like that kind of thing, then do it. I bet you this guy had more attention with the car as a GL than a stock standard Charger
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Quote from: autodynamics on October 03, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: JT01 on October 01, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
This is a charger site for all of us owners and it blows me away how some of the people get on here and say they depise General Lees and stuff like that. WHO cares if you like them or not we dont tell the people that dont have Generals we depise there cars because its not one. Ive seen a few 68 and 69 Chargers on here that I dont peronally like but I would never say anything mean about them because I repect all the owners of these cars because we have the same passion for them nomatter what they are. Like i said before the Dukes is what got me into 69 Chargers and its the same for others on here im building my General and sometime I want another 69 thats a all original R/T that way i can have the best of both worlds.

perfect could not have said it better..  The best is who are these people giving opioions about other peoples rides. that takes some set of balls. truth is allot of the guys on here have some shity chargers imo. but i dont see anyone calling them out. i would have NO problem with anyone building a general lee.

I think you guys missed the point here. As Brian said, the GL treatment isn't really the issue, it's the fact that the guy took what was a beautiful 68 Charger and shot it orange. It's kind of like C.M. Coolidge buying one of Michelangelo's canvas art works and painting one of his "Dogs Playing Poker" pieces over the top of it. Many people like the Dogs Playing Poker paintings but they don't want to see the work of Michelangelo destroyed to create one.

1969chargerrtse

Quote from: Darkman on October 04, 2010, 04:06:17 AM
Quote from: autodynamics on October 03, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: JT01 on October 01, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
This is a charger site for all of us owners and it blows me away how some of the people get on here and say they depise General Lees and stuff like that. WHO cares if you like them or not we dont tell the people that dont have Generals we depise there cars because its not one. Ive seen a few 68 and 69 Chargers on here that I dont peronally like but I would never say anything mean about them because I repect all the owners of these cars because we have the same passion for them nomatter what they are. Like i said before the Dukes is what got me into 69 Chargers and its the same for others on here im building my General and sometime I want another 69 thats a all original R/T that way i can have the best of both worlds.


perfect could not have said it better..  The best is who are these people giving opioions about other peoples rides. that takes some set of balls. truth is allot of the guys on here have some shity chargers imo. but i dont see anyone calling them out. i would have NO problem with anyone building a general lee.

:iagree: I personally don't like Daytona's but never hassle anyone that has one or converted any kind of Charger into one. If you like that kind of thing, then do it. I bet you this guy had more attention with the car as a GL than a stock standard Charger
Don't be so sure. If I was at a car show and saw it in the blue and white I would of walked over to see it as I don't see many in those colors.  As a GL, seen one seen em all.  His car and money, do as he wants but I would of left it original as it was real nice.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

JT01

Quote from: bull on October 04, 2010, 05:10:31 AM
Quote from: autodynamics on October 03, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: JT01 on October 01, 2010, 05:42:22 PM
This is a charger site for all of us owners and it blows me away how some of the people get on here and say they depise General Lees and stuff like that. WHO cares if you like them or not we dont tell the people that dont have Generals we depise there cars because its not one. Ive seen a few 68 and 69 Chargers on here that I dont peronally like but I would never say anything mean about them because I repect all the owners of these cars because we have the same passion for them nomatter what they are. Like i said before the Dukes is what got me into 69 Chargers and its the same for others on here im building my General and sometime I want another 69 thats a all original R/T that way i can have the best of both worlds.
perfect could not have said it better..  The best is who are these people giving opioions about other peoples rides. that takes some set of balls. truth is allot of the guys on here have some shity chargers imo. but i dont see anyone calling them out. i would have NO problem with anyone building a general lee.

I think you guys missed the point here. As Brian said, the GL treatment isn't really the issue, it's the fact that the guy took what was a beautiful 68 Charger and shot it orange. It's kind of like C.M. Coolidge buying one of Michelangelo's canvas art works and painting one of his "Dogs Playing Poker" pieces over the top of it. Many people like the Dogs Playing Poker paintings but they don't want to see the work of Michelangelo destroyed to create one.
I agree he shouldnt of done it to that 68 I told him that over at the CGLFC I made that statement just because of some of the people getting on here starting to say stuff about Generals it seems a least twice a year we go through this stuff about Generals.

Belgium R/T -68

Quote from: autodynamics on October 03, 2010, 11:27:39 AM
Quote from: JT01 on October 01, 2010, 05:42:22 PM



perfect could not have said it better..  The best is who are these people giving opioions about other peoples rides. that takes some set of balls. truth is allot of the guys on here have some shity chargers imo. but i dont see anyone calling them out. i would have NO problem with anyone building a general lee.

I'm kind of dissapointed about a statement like that coming from a pro like you building high tech quality cars. I don't see any members here with a "shity"
charger neglecting it and just waiting for bringing it to the junkyard. I see many devoted chargerowners with cars in different status due to different
skills, fundings and other factors in life that decides how far you can go in your hobby.

Per
Charger -68 R/T 500 cui Stroker

PocketThunder

So i was watching the Dukes marathon on CMT Saturday night and i was reliving my youth a bit as i was 5 years old when the show started.  The on Sunday i loaded up the kids and spouse into my Charger and we headed out to the apple farm to get apples and take a nice Sunday drive.  The apple farm does not have very many parking spots and traffic was backed up.  There was a shallow ditch between the road and the parking lot in the field and i thought i was Bo Duke for a minute and down the ditch we went and up into the field parking lot.  No more waiting to park!  My spouse was not very pleased but damn that felt good!

Paul
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