Are Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending Replies Necessary?

[Shakey]

Something along the lines of greenpigs topic the other day about getting along and cuss words.

My question as stated above:

Are Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending Replies Necessary?   

I realize that there are some questions/comments that get posted here that deserve a good wise ass, sarcastic or condescending answer but is it generally accepted on message forums for someone who reposts something, asks a question that may have already been asked in another topic or even worded their post incorrectly?  I read that some of you folks hang out at other forums, I myself don't - do you see this type of behavior at other forums also? 

I learned a while back that it is easy to treat people like shit and act like a tough guy when you are hidden behind a monitor, something I won't do!  Would you act the same with your co-workers, customers or a stranger you had met in a bar and started a conversation with?  If so, do you get punched out on a regular basis?   

I am sorry, but I have a difficult time accepting people calling other people stupid or lazy when they hardly know one another    - don't know why but I just do!  I know there are members here that are more than just comrades on this message board and hang out together as they live close to one another and the jabs that they take at each other are just plain in fun or are inside jokes, but I tell you, I am just blown away at the way I see some treat others here. 

I realize that many of the wise ass, sarcastic and condescending answers are made in order to get a laugh and some can be quite funny, when they are not meant to demean someone, but are the majority of the mean spirited ones really necessary?

I understand that I am no angel and I am far from perfect and I have probably given my share of wise ass answers over the course of the year.  However, I usually only serve one up in an attempt to be funny (like most), and almost always try to make a point of not intenionally offending or insulting another.  Also, I will serve one up if someone has called me out first in the same particular thread or a recent thread.  Very rarely do I forget when someone has taken a shot at me at the same time, very rarely will I fuel the fire by returning insult after insult.

Your thoughts on this topic?

P.S. - Please don't turn this thread into a debate about the 2006 Dodge Charger!   

[Jon Smith]

Its not really on to jump on a newcomer because the asked something thats been asked a thousand times, they dont know that and it gives a bad first impression of the site
theres nothing wrong with a sarcastic comment or a joke as long as you make it clear your just kidding

[RD]

I agree with both of you, but some individuals take it too far in hopes of getting forum "cred" I guess.  I have brought this up in the past and instead of something constructive coming about, aforementioned individuals turned the thread into a "Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending" thread instead.

[Shakey]

I agree with both of you, but some individuals take it too far in hopes of getting forum "cred" I guess.   I have brought this up in the past and instead of something constructive coming about, aforementioned individuals turned the thread into a "Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending" thread instead.

I guess that would show the mentality of each individual!  

Hey RD, thanks for not making me feel like a dork for not reseraching this thoroughly prior to posting this poll!  

[RD]

I agree with both of you, but some individuals take it too far in hopes of getting forum "cred" I guess.   I have brought this up in the past and instead of something constructive coming about, aforementioned individuals turned the thread into a "Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending" thread instead.

I guess that would show the mentality of each individual!  

Hey RD, thanks for not making me feel like a dork for not reseraching this thoroughly prior to posting this poll!  

dont think you would have found it, it was on the old board.  And no worries, this type of thread SHOULD be brought up every once and a while to ground people back to reality.

[hemi68charger]

I guess some of the culprits need to express themselves in a way they are place on a higher intellectual pedestal than others.. Guess it's some sort of complex......... Unfortunately, it's human nature...... ok ok,, no finger pointing.........

Troy

[73dodge]

Sometimes sarcasm and being a wise @$$ are ways of defusing a heated situation especially in a controversial thread. Sometimes a sarcastic remark are also ways of saying this topic has gotten to the point of being pointless. Like I am never going to be able to convince ChargerBill of the merits of the welfare society and to keep arguing about it gets old. So why not throw out some dumb@$$ remarks to lighten up the situation or to just derail the topic and it's angry posts.

So to answer your question, YES, sometimes it's necessary.

Not every topic needs to have a serious inputs from everyone. 

[4402tuff4u]

The answer is "no". We all agreed to it when we signed up to be members of this forum - or did we forget?.
What really amazes me is how we treat some newbies when they post a question that it's obviously by their question that they dont know or have a clue of what the answer is. That answer might be so obvious to us or some of us, but for this "newbie" who is probably new to the forum and to the Charger/Mopar hobby is totally unknown.
Case in point, I was really turned off when this newbie (teenager) was exited for having a small amount of money (very small to buy a Charger) towards finding his dream Hemi Charger. It boggles my mind how he was rediculed and given no support for just being interested on a Hemi Charger and just for the fact that he was reaching out for some feedback from us, supposedly "good Mopar/Charger guys", but all he got was to be made fun of. This was a kid that atleast knew what a Hemi Charger was!!!
Like I have mentioned previously on other posts, this car enthusiast hobby we participate in is full of a__holes, jerks, scumbags, conceded and ignorant individuals. As Mopar/Charger guys we all should make attempts not to add ourselves to that list. I dont know about other members here, but I would like to be known as a helpful member, Mopar guy, a decent Charger owner and a friend. Think before you answer a post. Sometimes you better off keeping your thoughts in your head. Love you guys.      

[NHCharger]

As I mentioned in Pig's thread it seems the anonymity of the keyboards sometimes makes people say or type things they normally would not say in a face to face encounter. I have been one in the past to reply with a wise ass remark, but only if I knew that it wouldn't be taken out of context. When you've been on this board long enough you can actually see each members personality reflected in their posts.
I have met 25-30 board members so far. There are another 200 I'd like to meet. And there's probably a dozen that I hope I never meet.
And yes Mike this does happen on other forums. I actually saw a topic on roofing at moparts get locked because members were hurling insults at each other. Which is nothing new over there.
I look at it this way, there's about a dozen members here that are going to post a stupid or inappropriate reply on a daily basis. We can't ban people for stupidity (although it would be nice). I look at it this way, I'm glad they aren't my neighbors.

[andy74]

i have made my share of wise ass comments,and really dont mean anything by them.i am a smart ass by nature,and those of you who ive met in person or talked with on the phone probably realize that.granted some of us,myself included can get carried away at times,but i think most of us mean no harm.
i remember when i joined the old board,a few years back,and thought how great it was that i found some people to talk to about chargers,and mopars in general.at the time i had mine a little over a year,and had very little input from guys i know around me,as this is a mostly a gm town.any way,like i said in the pigs thread,if i have offended any one,i am truly sorry,and am trying to behave better-merry christmas!

[41husk]

Yes! yes, I believe they are

[nh_mopar_fan]

Well, I am a pretty sarcastic SOB in person as well. Ask my ex.

But, as Brian said, you do need to be cognizant of how what you say could be interpretted.

That said, if you're truly bothered by what someone has said to you in any forum, especially someone who you don't even know, I suggest you relax and think about maybe being a bit less thin-skinned.

Cudaken gave me an earful a few weeks ago. I replied back and went on my way. If you don't take that attitude, you'll be dead before your time.

[Darkness]

Sometimes people are like that. It sucks and it creates drama and unwanted problems not only on the board but, also off the board. In my years of being on the internet sometimes people think that because they sit behind a box and monitor they can talk to people however they want. In the end it bites them and out in the real world you wouldn't think of pulling such a stunt because if you did and you come across the wrong person on a bad, well bad things can happen to you. Just at look at the news and you'll see what I'm talking about. Besides the point, we're all humans here and most people are good here. There is a few apples here but, mainly we're all human and make mistakes. Talking down to each other isn't going to fix the problem except on very rare occasion. Anyways, that's all I have to contribute.

[Chris G.]

My question as stated above:

Are Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending Replies Necessary?     

For a certain 3 to 4 members, yes it is necessary to be sarcastic. They do nothing but make this board look like retard central.  

Ok now that I said that, I agree that snide comments are not necessary. I see alot of things I disagree with, but there's no real sense in starting a fight about it. I have been a wise ass a few times, but I don't think anyone has a grudge against me? If they do, please PM me and let's get over it and have a cold one.  

[Old Moparz]

My question as stated above:

Are Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending Replies Necessary?     

For a certain 3 to 4 members, yes it is necessary to be sarcastic. They do nothing but make this board look like retard central.  

Ok now that I said that, I agree that snide comments are not necessary. I see alot of things I disagree with, but there's no real sense in starting a fight about it. I have been a wise ass a few times, but I don't think anyone has a grudge against me? If they do, please PM me and let's get over it and have a cold one.  

You have mail.


Nothing wrong, I just need a beer. 

[Chris G.]

You have mail.

Nothing wrong, I just need a beer.  

I'll take care of you in Carlisle. 

[70charginglizard]

Depends of the person and the discussion. Sometimes yes...sometimes no. I don't try to purpoesly and viciously attack anyone in here but I have been purposely viciously attacked upon and it can be stressfull but at times it may or may not be necessary. Nature of talking with certain people. Especially people with strong belief in something. Luckily the majority of people in here at good,smart,intellegent people and things seem to work themselves out in the end.
Tell ya one thing though. No matter what happens I will not be driven away from this site. I enjoy it and the people here way too much.

nuff said.

70charginglizard

[Todd Wilson]

P.S. - Please don't turn this thread into a debate about the 2006 Dodge Charger!     

The 2006 Dodge Charger rules and will be around longer then any of these 35 year old junkers everyone has on this board!


Todd

[Johnny SixPack]

P.S. - Please don't turn this thread into a debate about the 2006 Dodge Charger!     

The 2006 Dodge Charger rules and will be around longer then any of these 35 year old junkers everyone has on this board!


Todd

Dude, I'm only 31.

Thank you very much, ol' man.

I'll give you junker, although I prefer the term pack rat.  

Oops, I think that was a wise @$$ remark.

Or was I being sarcastic?  

[Charger_Fan]

My question as stated above:

Are Wise Ass, Sarcastic & Condescending Replies Necessary?     

For a certain 3 to 4 members, yes it is necessary to be sarcastic. They do nothing but make this board look like retard central.  

Ok now that I said that, I agree that snide comments are not necessary. I see alot of things I disagree with, but there's no real sense in starting a fight about it. I have been a wise ass a few times, but I don't think anyone has a grudge against me? If they do, please PM me and let's get over it and have a cold one.  

You have mail.


Nothing wrong, I just need a beer.  

HHHAAAHAHHAAA!!!


Mmmm...beer...

[Blown70]

Certain comments have the correct time and place.  IMO..


Tom

[Mefirst]

I woted Yes on the poll... Then again there is a fine line with what is sarcastic, wise ass or just rude and puting some one down. I am shore I am personaly quilty of crossing that line myself on a cupple of ocations, so here is my appology.. -Buuhuuu.. I also think that we who have been members in this and the old forum for a long time, know eachother so well by now, that we al know when a wise ass/sarcastic comment is ok. Then again posting something sarcastic or wise ass in a thread started by a newbie is not cool, personaly Ive avoided that, but when it comes to you old timers that I know, well you are free game...

I personaly think we have an awsome forum here and 99.9% of the people Ive met here are cool in my book, yes Ive had a cupple of run ins with a cupple of members, but that doesnt meen I wont buy them or have them buy me a beer if I ever get to meet them. One dream I have is to someday be able to meet and talk to every single one of you face to face, that would be awsome... well maby not Piggy... Naah, Id buy him a beer to any day of the week to..

/Tom

[greenpigs]

  Well sometimes a reply is best left in a wise ass tone, I do that with a few members who I have a good idea will get that I am kidding. New members are excluded as they are fresh and may not know about using the search or want to take the time to read through the posts. A little humor makes this place more interresting to me at least, but slamming others or disagreeing(you know who you are) just for the sake of starting something is childish.

[ChargerBill]

Mefirst has a point (did I REALLY just type that?)...LOL. No really, a lot of us know eachother pretty well and know when and what to say to jab or get a response. And even though a lot of it is in fun, some of it gets nasty and is inappropriate as well.

I belong to about 7 other forums, and I can say that this forum contains the most colorful languge, diverse opinions, put downs, insults, joking, information, help and friendships of them all. IMO this is the most well rounded and REAL forum I belong to, and just as in real life, things aren't always pretty, and people aren't always agreeaqble or friendly. Honestly though, I think that is hat makes this place so unique AND enjoyable. Besides, how many REAL car guys do you know in real life that don't mess with eachother, call eachother names, exaggerate, argue, brag, etc...? Personally I don't know ANY...it goes with the hobby.

[Dale The Bold]

Wise ass comments, yes. 

Sarcastic comments, yes.

Condescending comments, no.

To me, the worst offenders are those who tell others that it's wrong for them to share their opinions.  As if there is a finite amount of people who can express an opinion, and once that number is reached, it is forbidden for others to say the same.

If you're ever sick of hearing something, it simply means that the majority agrees on that issue.  You're entitled to think that's weird, you're entitled to express your opposition relentlessly.  But, fer-cryin'-out-loud, don't tell people to stop sharing their thoughts.  Discussion killers ruin the potential for the evolution of the discussion.  Any time "that topic" comes up, it gets killed right off, and turns into a debate of freedom of speech, and the topic is lost.  Eventually, someone else summons the courage to bring up "that topic" again, and it is again promptly killed.  Rinse, repeat.