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you got a hemi w/o a matching numbers transmission?

Started by RD, August 09, 2010, 10:32:00 PM

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RD

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jeryst

I dont believe you can "legally restamp" any EXISTING numbers.
The original numbers were put there for a purpose: To make that part unique for identification.

UFO

So what's the difference between this and a big block case?

Cooter

Quote from: UFO on August 10, 2010, 06:31:05 AM
So what's the difference between this and a big block case?


Prolly nothin' as far as the casting, but Then, there's those numbers.....


Just like a $2000.00 440 HP engine and a $200.00 440 HP engine...One has the orignal, matching numbers block to your 440 Six Pack car and one doesn't....
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Quote from: UFO on August 10, 2010, 06:31:05 AM
So what's the difference between this and a big block case?

there is no difference in the case, its strictly the internals that differentiates a hemi and a wedge transmission.  he is just selling the "restamp" value of this transmission.

when you think about it, the difference between a hemicuda with a #'s matching drivetrain and one without can be in the 20K range (and that is being a minimalist)... its worth it to buy this, restamp it and make your car numbers matching.
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bakerhillpins

Besides the legal questions of re-stamping...

Why is this any different from grinding the pads down a few mills and putting on a new stamp. How will anyone know the diff? Its not like the stamps cut that far into the face of the metal right?
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Quote from: bakerhillpins on August 10, 2010, 11:36:47 AM
Besides the legal questions of re-stamping...

Why is this any different from grinding the pads down a few mills and putting on a new stamp. How will anyone know the diff? Its not like the stamps cut that far into the face of the metal right?


not saying that anyone will be able to tell, but those that do the numbers research for a living will be able to tell, especially when it comes to rare hemi cars.  remember, most hemi cars are documented at some point in their life, so someone usually knows something about them already.  the ability to fake the funk anymore has gotten harder 10-fold i believe (my opinion of course).

some of these guys may use the same technology that CSI units use when it comes to recovering lost stampings off of weapons that have had their serial numbers removed.  if i was dealing with a multi-million dollar car, i sure in the hell would.  hell, even if it was a 400-500K, if i could afford that amount of cash, i could afford someone to check to make sure nothing was tampered with.

with that being the issue, a "virgin" transmission case would be the perfect alternative to mask your fraudulent behavior.  god helps the person who stamps this transmission only to have someone come up to them later on with the ACTUAL #'s matching transmission and bust them out.
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bakerhillpins

Of course the other issue here is that the guy who sells you the transmission needs to keep his trap shut or you need to pay with laundered money so there isn't a trail back to you and your car.

Ill say it again, money does funny things to people, so much so its sad.  :-\
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Quote from: bakerhillpins on August 10, 2010, 11:57:32 AM
money does funny things to people

A Hemi does funny things to people.  :icon_smile_dissapprove:  Very good observation bakerhillpins. :yesnod:



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The casting date on the case could easily foil a "matching number" restamp. Restamping is perfectly legal, dealers were encouraged to restamp replacement parts but few ever did; time is money.
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Alaskan_TA

Re-stamping major components is a felony.

It also ruins people's reputations when they get caught.