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New "SuperBird"???

Started by Dave Kanofsky, August 05, 2010, 07:59:23 AM

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Dave Kanofsky

"God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him." John 3:17, NLT

Racers For Christ Chaplain (www.teamrfc.org)

Big Bird

Dave, saw this in a Mopar magazine a few months back ....................awesome job.............is there any more info on this...........can't seem to find much on that web site..........is it Baxter Conversions ?
BIG - BIRD :)

Dave Kanofsky

I had seen the gold one a while ago, but the blue one was new to me.  I don't know any more about it.
"God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him." John 3:17, NLT

Racers For Christ Chaplain (www.teamrfc.org)

BigBlockSam

I won't be wronged, I wont be Insulted and I wont be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to others, and I require the same from them.

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ChgrSteve67

The superbird needs a Vinyl top.

hemi68charger

Quote from: ChgrSteve67 on August 05, 2010, 11:23:23 AM
The superbird needs a Vinyl top.
No kiddin'.. Otherwise it looks like a Daytona with a Superbird decal on the nose..............   Cool cars nonetheless............
Troy
'69 Charger Daytona 440 auto 4.10 Dana ( now 426 HEMI )
'70 Superbird 426 Hemi auto: Lindsley Bonneville Salt Flat world record holder (220.2mph)
Houston Mopar Club Connection

moparstuart

sorry not really to my liking     :eek2: :eek2: :eek2: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hotrod98

I would totally drive that.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

Ghoste

I'm not sure if I would or not.  It is intriguing though.

FJ5WING

take the crappy looking things off the hood and fenders and .....maybe......maybe is about all I can muster.  :P
wingless now, but still around.

tan top

wonder if that front end increases top end  :scratchchin: or do these cars hit the limiter in high gear stock  :scratchchin: :popcrn:
Feel free to post any relevant picture you think we all might like to see in the threads below!

Charger Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,86777.0.html
Chargers in the background where you least expect them 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,97261.0.html
C500 & Daytonas & Superbirds
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,95432.0.html
Interesting pictures & Stuff 
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,109484.925.html
Old Dodge dealer photos wanted
 http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,120850.0.html

redrider

sign me up for one but the birds definitly need the vinal top

DAY CLONA

If your going to do a modern Superbird,...do it "right"

DAY CLONA

......

gtx6970

Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
I would totally drive that.

so would I,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,straight back the garage and take all that crap back off :puke:

62 Max

Quote from: gtx6970 on August 05, 2010, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
I would totally drive that.

so would I,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,straight back the garage and take all that crap back off :puke:

I'd be right behind you.Cut it at the cowl,remove the rear half and you have a mid 70's Vette. :icon_smile_big:

hotrod98

Quote from: gtx6970 on August 05, 2010, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: hotrod98 on August 05, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
I would totally drive that.

so would I,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,straight back the garage and take all that crap back off :puke:

That's exactly what they said about the original birds.
There was one that sat at the dealership here for over two years. I remember my dad taking me by to see it. He must have laughed for over an hour. He'd roll over in his grave if he knew I owned one now.
The dealership parked it at the back of the service area just to keep people from honking and laughing every time they drove by. I'm dead serious. Small towns are like that.
I welcome anyone to drive by and honk and laugh at my bird now. I feel good knowing they'll never be able to afford one. :icon_smile_big:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

A383Wing

Why wouldn't it be a Daytona.....aren't those "Dodge" cars they are made from?

With the 'Birds on the wings & nose...Warner Co. is gonna get more money from usage rights  :shruggy:

TylerCharger69

I think they look awesome...other than they just look like challengers with added features   and  plymouth??   I thought that brand was dispensed?

mauve66

just like the Mr. norms cuda's, just badges
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

Redbird

The cars in 1969 and 1970 were designed as they are with the specific purpose of improving a stock Torino, Cyclone, Charger or Roadrunner body to make it more efficient and aerodynamic. The scoops were on the fenders and had a purpose(s). The front ends had to meet headlight requirements of their time, use production turn signals, be evaluated on how aerodynamic they were in a wind tunnel. Everybody wanted a back window like the Fords, because they worked on the track. The wings were thought out for purpose, and improved as part of a package when Superbirds were built after the Daytonas. All the pieces added together to build a combined whole. The cars were at the forefront of the technology for a production car of their time. Not 917 Porsche technology but Detroit factory technology.

It seems to me if you truly want a great car of it's time, you would use the best technology of it's time.

A383Wing

yea..ok...but calling a Dodge Challenger with nose & wing a Superbird?   :shruggy:

Black Charger

The Challenger is a great looking car as-is. The wing and nose cone just makes it look gaudy. I love Superbirds and Daytonas, but I don't think there is a new car offered by Chrysler that would look good with a wing and nose cone.

Tilar

I think it looks alright. I don't know about putting the Plymouth decals on a Dodge though. At least it's not a 4 door.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



hotrod98

As far as I'm concerned, the new Charger is not a Charger and the new Challenger is not a Challenger. They just used a name that sells cars. And, I don't think the automotive manufacturer beancounters could care less about heritage.
They've tried this before. This is the third time they've used the Challenger moniker. At least this time they placed the name on something with considerably more horsepower.
I have people ask me all of the time why I haven't bought a new Challenger. I tell them "look around my shop and you should be able to figure it out. I have original Mopar musclecars that I can drive".
I don't want to drive a car that every other little girl at the local high school drives.
At least with a nose and wing it won't look like everyone else's Challenger.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

mauve66

wonder what one would look like MAUVE...........................
Robert-Las Vegas, NV

NEEDS:
body work
paint - mauve and black
powder coat wheels - mauve and black
total wiring
PW
PDLKS
Tint
trim
engine - 520/540, eddy heads, 6pak
alignment

Grim Jhaixus

The size is all wrong. Superbirds were huge cars about a mile long, by comparison that car in the picture is almost a shopping cart.

You know what? Put it in the trunk of a 70 Superbird, it might make a cool escape pod.
"Scars" 1973 Base 318/904 Originally B5

Married on November 23rd, 2009
Fried all the electricals two weeks after purchase
Set on fire ~twice~
Overheated til it would diesel a full five minutes ~twice~

Never once didn't start, never stranded me, never once did not take me where I needed to go. Daily driver of 4+ years.

Currently undergoing 413/727 swap after I finally beat the 318 til it lost a headgasket. The kicker is the 318 still cranks and runs like nothing is wrong. I love my ca

mikepmcs

Life isn't Father Knows Best anymore, it's a kick in the face on a saturday night with a steel toed grip kodiak work boot and a trip to the hospital all bloodied and bashed.....for reconstructive surgery. But, what doesn't kill us, makes us stronger, right?

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

nascarxx29

1969 R4 Daytona XX29L9B410772
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23UOA174597
1970 FY1 Superbird RM23UOA166242
1970 EV2 Superbird RM23VOA179697
1968 426 Road Runner RM21J8A134509
1970 Coronet RT WS23UOA224126
1970 Daytona Clone XP29GOG178701

hemi-hampton

They should of used the new Cuda(converted challenger) for the plymouth superbird. LEON.

superbirdtom

the blue concept car with the 71 runner strobe stripes also has the 71 runner fender and quarter wheelwel bludges  so its closer to a goyette machine .  but anything  superbird honoring is great

SBBob

WOW!!! I would drive one in a second.  Seems like I am hearing the same story that was said back in 1970 - these cars are to gaudy for the street.  As for the Dodge Vs. Plymouth as we all know the Superbirds used the 70 Coronet fenders and hoods to make the package work - that made them 1/2 Dodge back then and none of us are complaining about that.  If it makes Bill France turn over in his grave then it is a good thing to me.  I like being different and if I wanted to drive what everyone else does I would get a Stang or Camero - but when I drive down the street I never see another wing car unless I am going to a MOPAR show.   
Superbird Bob - 426 Hemi, 4 Speed, 3.54 Track Pack

hotrod98

That's why I was surprised that some of these guys were dissing the cars. That's exactly what happened in 69 and 70. I guess I just expect more from Mopar people.  ;D
My superbird was a conglomeration of parts from the beginning and I love it.
I repeat...I would definitely drive one of those cars.


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

moparstuart

Quote from: hotrod98 on August 19, 2010, 02:24:53 PM
That's why I was surprised that some of these guys were dissing the cars. That's exactly what happened in 69 and 70. I guess I just expect more from Mopar people.  ;D
My superbird was a conglomeration of parts from the beginning and I love it.
I repeat...I would definitely drive one of those cars.
I love superbird and daytona ,  but I hate the looks of that thing .
Maybe if it was factory designed , but I just think it looks tacky   
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

SFRT

those look GREAT! I'd drive it!
Always Drive Responsibly



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62 Max

Nothing like the real thing.

moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hotrod98

Too bad the general public doesn't always agree with us. I've even had a couple of people ask me why I ricered up a perfectly good roadrunner. Most of the people at the car shows and cruises nowadays are too young to remember the winged cars. Even most of the older folks have never seen a wing car and never realized that the factory built them. I have to explain the car to just about everyone.

Kids today can go down to a dealership and buy a new car that can whoop our butts at the dragstrip and the road course with the a/c and cruise control on so they could care less about these old relics.
We're slowly becoming fossils.

The most asked question about my bird is "what is it".  ;D


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

41husk

I here you Larry, I even have to explain the Daytona to older car guys at shows and cruizes.  I also have peole ask after I tell them I have a Super Bee replica, "thats the one with the big wing and pointy nose?"  I am afraid I was becoming a relic long before that.
1969 Dodge Charger 500 440/727
1970 Challenger convertible 340/727
1970 Plymouth Duster FM3
1974 Dodge Dart /6/904
1983 Plymouth Scamp GT 2.2 Auto
1950 Dodge Pilot house pick up

moparstuart

Quote from: 41husk on August 23, 2010, 01:39:35 PM
I here you Larry, I even have to explain the Daytona to older car guys at shows and cruizes.  I also have peole ask after I tell them I have a Super Bee replica, "thats the one with the big wing and pointy nose?"  I am afraid I was becoming a relic long before that.
those are the people I tell that my car is a one of one factory convertible with a prototype 440 hemi six pac .   :nana:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hotrod98

 :smilielol:

Stu,
I forgot to mention that a local guy is building a convertible bird that will be the identical twin to yours. He even has the original air grabber hood. He's had this real big block runner convert for as long as I can remember. I was shocked when he told me that he was building a bird clone out of it.
He's supposed to be coming over to check out all of the parts that I have left lying around that he can use. I still have the Don Currie nose, fender extensions, f/g latch tray, steel z-braces  and a few other odds and ends that he could use.
Now all he needs is a Janak wing. Anyone have one?


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams

moparstuart

Quote from: hotrod98 on August 23, 2010, 02:42:02 PM
:smilielol:

Stu,
I forgot to mention that a local guy is building a convertible bird that will be the identical twin to yours. He even has the original air grabber hood. He's had this real big block runner convert for as long as I can remember. I was shocked when he told me that he was building a bird clone out of it.
He's supposed to be coming over to check out all of the parts that I have left lying around that he can use. I still have the Don Currie nose, fender extensions, f/g latch tray, steel z-braces  and a few other odds and ends that he could use.
Now all he needs is a Janak wing. Anyone have one?

dont sell him any of my daytona clone parts laying around there   :slap: 
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

hotrod98

I wondered what all those extra parts were for.  :icon_smile_big:


Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly.
Charles Addams