Proposed 999 (Petty/Corporate Blue) Superbird Registry thread.

[nascarxx29]

Dug this up that mentions other colors available through the #4923.But C37 D AKA Corporate blue/Petty blue not mentioned.But would it been eligible as a other another color to choose ??
 Another Petty blue thing I ran across on the 69 AMX SS car it utilized the #12785 Petty blue color.Thats found on the 999 superbird
http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/amx-super-stock-paint-colors_topic10876.html

[rainbow4jd]

Dug this up that mentions other colors available through the #4923.But C37 D AKA Corporate blue/Petty blue not mentioned.But would it been eligible as a other another color to choose ??
 Another Petty blue thing I ran across on the 69 AMX SS car it utilized the #12785 Petty blue color.Thats found on the 999 superbird
http://www.theamcforum.com/forum/amx-super-stock-paint-colors_topic10876.html

This note has my head spinning.   It indicates J numbers through J99499, and no "999" paint code option.   However, I have a 999 car and my J number is J99501 - clearly NOT matching the information in the note.   

To me - this clearly suggests something wierd with the 999 cars.   Why the out of sequence J numbers?

My gut feeling tells me that we need to look at J numbers and paint codes (at least on the 999 cars).   Are there any below J99500?



My VIN (from Brennan's site) was a Nov

[pettybird]

can someone merge the two Corporation Blue threads together?  The memo in the other thread would have prevented about a dozen of these posts.

[Alaskan_TA]

I am pretty sure the J VONs on that list are the BEGINNING numbers. If so, the 999 'birds would start at J99499 and work up.

[nascarxx29]

999 car?? 5th row from the bottom

http://www.bangshift.com/blog/Event-Gallery-Chryslers-at-Carlisle-2010.html

[learical1]

I don't think so.  look at the underside of the hood.

[Wildman]

This is the list I have on file of Petty cars that I seen the fender tag and wrote the numbers down. Please tell me if you have other info about these cars.

#420 on the build list RM23U0A158633 Petty Blue White Buckets and a 4-speed

#447 on the build list RM23V0A167148 Petty Blue auto

#835 on the build list RM23U0A168776 which from this post I learned is Pettybirds

#911 on the build list RM23U0A158636 Petty Blue White Buckets and a 4-speed

#923 on the build list RM23V0A171595 Petty Blue

#1057 & #1316 on the buildlist RM23U0A171684 Petty Blue Black Bench and a column auto


If anybody has other info on these cars let me know so I can change my info.
Thanks!

[Arnie Cunningham]

Greetings All,

I have been away from the computer for the past week.  With Wildman's information, we now have 24 cars with various degrees of confirmation.  As soon as I can find a way to load the data in a way that is legible, I will put it up here.

Thanks,
Brennan

[rainbow4jd]

Brennan,

Here is my complete info....

Line 1:   05101 (gate number)     164866 (broadcast sheet print sequence #)
Line 2:   114 (440 4-speed)  083 (Dana)  676 (Hemi-4-speed)
Line 3:   C37D (Corporation Blue)  26 (26" max cool radiator)
Line 4:   V19 (Superbird Exclusive Vinyl Roof)  V99 (Delete Roadrunner Body Stripe)
Line 5:   999 (Special Order Paint)  P6XW (White Buckets)  EW1 (White upper door frame and trim) B30 (Nov 69 production) J99501 (Special Order #)
Line 6:   E86 (440 4 Barrel)  D21 (4 speed) RM23U0A158628


In sum

Powertrain:  440 4V, 3:54 Dana, 4 speed
Exterior: 999 Corporation Blue
Interior:  White buckets with white door frames
Console:  NO
Mirrors:   Drivers side chrome
Other Options:  AM radio


PS Start tracking the J Numbers - perhaps I am wrong but I have this feeling there may be some sequence clues if you start sorting by the J number.




Steve Vance

[rainbow4jd]

Greetings All,

I have been away from the computer for the past week.  With Wildman's information, we now have 24 cars with various degrees of confirmation.  As soon as I can find a way to load the data in a way that is legible, I will put it up here.

Thanks,
Brennan

Brennan - can you simply use the fender tag headers (see my bird notes above).   i.e. Gate Number (1), BS Print Seq(1), Engine/Tranny(2),

The numbers in paranthesis indicates which line of the fender tag.

Just a thought

Steve

[Arnie Cunningham]

Greetings,

I don't have comprehensive fender tag info for more than a couple cars.  Most of the information is from old member lists, photos and what I have found on the net.

This site apparently uses a language slightly different from HTML.  (correct me if I am wrong)
When I cut and paste the data it gets all scrambled.  If I can find a format that is at least readable, I will post what I have.  It just may take a few tries using different applications and browsers.

Thanks,
Brennan

[Arnie Cunningham]

VIN   Eng   Trans   Interior   Seat Style   Console   J Code   Data Source
OK, I give up lol.  After too many variations, I tried putting question marks in to correct the spacing.  And I get... frowny question faces LOLOL.

Anyway, here is what I have except the last three digits of the Hemi cars.                     


155787   U   Auto   White   Bucket   No   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
158623   V   Manual   Black   Bucket      ??   Unknown Source
158628   U   Manual   White   Bucket      99501   Steve Vance
158632   U      ??         ??   Winged Warrior List
158633   U   Manual   White   Bucket      ??   Wildman
158634   U   Manual   White   Bucket      ??   Nascarxx29, Cars On Line, Owner - Barry Kanick?
158636   U   Manual   ??   Bucket   No   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
162287   V   Auto   White   Bucket   Yes   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
164667   U   Auto   Black   Bucket   Yes   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
167148   V   Auto   ??         ??   Wildman
167970   V   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
168775   V   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   ??   Pettybird
168776   U   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   99525   Pettybird - owner
                     
16949?   V   Manual?   Black?   Bench?   N/A   ??   Was on Ebay - Barry Kanick?
                     
170238   V   Manual   ??         ??   Winged Warrior List
170239   V   Manual   Black   Bucket      ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
171595   V      ??         ??   Wildman
171684   U   Manual   Black   Bucket   No   ??   Winged Warrior List
171684   U   Auto   Black   Bench   N/A   99530   Photos on Ebay
                     
172xxx   R   Auto   Black   Bucket   Yes   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
175692   U   Auto   White   Bucket      ??   Unknown Source
                     
176681   U   Auto   Black   Bucket   Yes   ??   Winged Warrior List
176682   U   Auto   ??   Bench   N/A   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     
177605   U      ??         ??   Unknown Source
                     
179xxx   R   Manual   White   Bucket   No   ??   Winged Warrior List
                     

[nascarxx29]

 J#s Barry K  158634 J99507 158636 J99509 166254 J99512 171684 J99530 175692 J99518 .On another note what is known on 999 charger 500 .It maybe also 999 daytonas such as Tim Wellborns came from same dealer Lenox Dodge
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,69573.0.html

[Alaskan_TA]

That helped some. 

I tossed this together real quick. If anyone has a fender tag photo , broadcast sheet or invoice scan for one email it to me & I can add it in.

Barry

[Arnie Cunningham]

OK All,

Check your data against what I have and make sure I didn't miss anything.  This is what I have so far.

VIN   Eng   Trans   Interior   Seat Style   Console   J Code   Data Source
                     
155787   U   Auto   White   Bucket   No   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
158623   V   Manual   Black   Bucket   ? ?   ? ? ?   Unknown Source
158628   U   Manual   White   Bucket   ? ?   99501   Steve Vance
158632   U   ? ? ?   ?? ??   ?? ??   ? ?   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
158633   U   Manual   White   Bucket   ? ?   ? ? ?   Wildman
158634   U   Manual   White   Bucket   ? ?   99507   Nascarxx29, Cars On Line, Owner - Barry Kanick?
158636   U   Manual   ?? ??   Bucket   No   99509   Winged Warrior List
                     
162287   V   Auto   White   Bucket   Yes   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
164667   U   Auto   Black   Bucket   Yes   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
166254   U   ? ? ?   ?? ??   ?? ??   ? ?   99512   Nascarxx29
                     
167148   V   Auto   ?? ??   ?? ??   ? ?   ? ? ?   Wildman
167970   V   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
168775   V   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   99524   Pettybird
168776   U   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   99525   Pettybird - owner
                     
169496   V   Manual?   Black?   Bench?   N/A   99517   Was on Ebay - Barry Kanick?
                     
170238   V   Manual   ?? ??   ?? ??   ? ?   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
170239   V   Manual   Black   Bucket   ? ?   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
171595   V   ? ? ?   ?? ??   ?? ??   ? ?   ? ? ?   Wildman
171684   U   Manual   Black   Bucket   No   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
171684   U   Auto   Black   Bench   N/A   99530   Photos on Ebay
                     
172601   R   Auto   Black   Bucket   Yes   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
175692   U   Auto   White   Bucket   ? ?   99518   Unknown Source
                     
176681   U   Auto   Black   Bucket   Yes   99538   Winged Warrior List
176682   U   Auto   ?? ??   Bench   N/A   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     
177605   U   ? ? ?   ?? ??   ?? ??   ? ?   ? ? ?   Unknown Source
                     
179687   R   Manual   White   Bucket   No   ? ? ?   Winged Warrior List
                     

[Arnie Cunningham]

Here is a print screen/ms paint file of same.

[Alaskan_TA]

172601 on your list is actually EB5 - J98463

[Alaskan_TA]

Also, since the document indicates that the 999 cars would start at J99499 & it looks like the highest one we have so far is J99538 - we (I?) can assume that at least 40 were made.

I know what assumptions do, but sometimes the only way to learn is to be proved wrong.   

[nascarxx29]

RM23ROA172601 is 1979 WW recorded as corporate blue Jeff Turner Colorado.Obvious mistake might be more incorrect recorded cars

[nascarxx29]

158636   U   Manual   ?? ??   Bucket   No   99509   Winged Warrior List
Additional info on 158636
http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?topic=42398.0 The Marvin Hughes 999 Corporate blue 4 speed white interior superbird RM23UOA158636 is in the 79 records

[nascarxx29]

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We sold the Cuda a couple of year ago.  We had had it since the early 80's and have been all over with it doing Vintage races and some exibitions.  We took it to Goodwood in england twice and have been from Laguna Seca to Daytona to Mosport in Canada with it .
Right now we are restoring the #76 Challenger Trans am racer and it will be done later this year.  We restored the #77 Challenger back about 10 years ago.  It races in vintage races now and belongs to Ken Epsman in Calif.
Our other Mopar Racer is the #74 Challenger petty kit car.  It has been on a couple of Mopar magazine covers.  This is the Prototype Challenger that Petty built for the Chrysler kit car program and the one that Earnhardt tested for Petty.  I tried to  post a pic of it earlier but it was too big and I lost everything I had typed.  I need to learn how to downsize my pics so I can post them
The Superbird is 1 of the 50 made in Petty Blue (999).  28 are on the superbird registry but I don't know how many of those are restored.   Seems like about 1/2 of them are still unrestored or parts cars.  If there is such a thing now days.   I don't know if there is another on like it.  I have seen one pic of a Petty blue one that is close and has Pettys number and decals on it.   It was done a long time ago and I don't know where it is now.   The Bird is a 440-4v, 4 speed, white buckets,  with Dana track pack.  The other one has an 8 3/4 rear end.
My Charger was ordered while I was in Vietnam and I planned on keeping it forever when I bought it so I still have it now after 36 years.  It is a 71 SE with 383mag 727.   It has all power, leather, Tuff, Rear defroster, AM-FM-Cassette-w/mic,  Suregrip 3.23,  Road wheels, Disc, Headlight washers, and a few other options.
We have two other mopar race cars.  One is a Cuda that is in parts and the other is the Jim Cushman Aspen petty kit car.  It looked like the one that AMT made a model of back years ago.  It will be restored back to the Red, White, & Blue paing job like it ran back then and the #8 on it.
I will be checking on this board frequently and seeing what I can add.

Thanks  Dave  (ViperDave)    Chrysler Vintage Racing.

 

[Alaskan_TA]

Taking my VON logic one step further........

It is generally accepted that 1935 Superbirds were produced, right?

The highest VON I have for the normal paint code 'Birds so far is J98890. If the first one was J97000 as the document suggests that would be 1891 'Birds with normal paint codes.

If we assume what I mentioned earlier with at least 40 in 999 paint, that would put us up to 1931 'Birds based on known VONs.

Pretty dang close.........  

[nascarxx29]

From older post above estimated number 999
The Superbird is 1 of the 50 made in Petty Blue (999). 

[Alaskan_TA]

Where did the number come from though?

If one was reported as Petty Blue & it does not have a J99 VON then it is safe to assume it was not Petty Blue originally. This is one of the reasons I would LOVE to see a compete list of VONs to complement the VIN list.

Anybody? 

[Arnie Cunningham]

Greetings All,

This is exactly what I had hoped for.  New information coming forward.  I hesitated to to put the VINs on (especially the Hemi cars) but I am glad I did.  If someone knows that a car has been repainted to Corporate/Petty Blue this would be the time to find out and the VIN is the most potentially known bit of information.

There is some statistical evidence for the 50 car number.  Before asking these 999 questions I had about 800 of the Superbird paint colors reported.  If we guess that about 1950 cars were built, 800 comes out to about 40%.  Coincidentally (or not) I had about 20 999 cars reported........... or about 40% of the "50" number.  Granted, these statistics don't "prove" anything.  They are just speculation.  But they do point in the direction of about 50 cars being painted 999/Corporate/Petty Blue.

I will post an updated version of the sheet later.  I also will upload the data to my website eventually.  The format there is more flexible and I can add more detail such as location of the cars in the VIN runs/spans.

Thanks,
Brennan