Proposed 999 (Petty/Corporate Blue) Superbird Registry thread.

[Arnie Cunningham]

Greetings All,

In just the past year, I have had several people contact me asking for more information on the Petty/Corporate Blue cars.  Is anyone interested in starting a thread devoted to registering the VINs, options and ownership data on these cars?  I don't want to start posting VINs unless the owners of those cars approve.  If most of these cars were painted in small batches at the end of VIN runs, we may be able to get a better guess as to how many were made.

Thanks,
Brennan R. Cook

[FastbackJon]

Wouldn't there already be one or more Superbird Registries that would capture the owner and paint information, etc, etc etc, for these cars?

[pettybird]

OK I got out the broadcast sheet.  I think you already have my info.

RM23U0A168776
J99525
Broadcast sheet carries the note "31 NASCAR NO 2" in the bottom left
Nov. 26 ship date
Y05 sales bank car
originally sent to Don Strotz Chrysler Plymouth in Ft. Wayne (out of business)

440/4 speed
black bench interior
tach
AM radio
15x7 rallyes
dual mirrors, driver remote
exhaust tips (they're not standard!)

good luck with getting more owners to sign on--these cars seem to be owned by people more cagey than standard wing car people. 

[pettybird]

V0A169775 is more-or-less our car's doppelganger. 
I can't find the pic of the bcast sheet so I don't know what the J number is right now. 


Changes:
Add 440 six pack
delete exhaust tips
delete passenger mirror

[Arnie Cunningham]

Greetings All,

As far as other existing registries go:  yes I am sure there are several.  Usually the information is closely held - for understandable reasons.  This would be partly a tool to discover more about these particular unusual cars and partly a way to link together owners so they can talk among themselves.

The initial format I would propose is something similar to what the Rod Hall truck owners have done.  See:  http://www.rodhallseriesdodge.com/database.htm

VIN, Engine, Transmission, Interior Color, Seat Style, Console, J Code, Data Source

There are few of these cars so if someone wants to put up a post with photos and more detail of their individual car, there should be room.

There are a couple of cars I can post the information on as they have been for sale on the internet.  The data was out there for anyone who cared to collect it.  That data is basically public information now.

We may as well start with a really odd situation - Two 999 Superbirds with the same VIN.  I was sorting through some vin numbers for Superbirds and found something interesting.  This may be common knowledge but I was unaware of it.  As you know there are a few duplicate vin numbers on the Nascar serial number list.  One of those numbers is RM23U0A171684.  It shows up twice.  The first time it is car number 1057.  The second time it is car number 1316.  Car 1057 was received on 12-1-69 and shipped out 12-2-69.  Car 1316 was received on 12-5-69 and shipped 12-5-69.  At first I thought this was just a typo on the list.

When looking through another list of vin numbers I found RM23U0A171684 was a Petty blue, black bucket interior, manual transmission with no console.  Then a car with RM23U0A171684 showed up on Ebay with a photo of the fender tag and it is a Petty blue, black bench interior, automatic transmission with obviously no console.  Did someone switch out transmissions and seats and then switch them back?  Is the information on the list wrong?  Did Chrysler accidentally make two cars with the same VIN?  Anything could have happened.



Here is a starting list:
999 PAINT CODE SUPERBIRDS
VIN   Engine   Transmission   Interior   Seat Style   Console   J Code   Data Source
169775   V   ?   ?   ?   ?   ?   Pettybird
168776   U   Manual   Black   Bench   N/A   99525   Pettybird - owner
                     
171684   U   Manual   Black   Buckets   No   ?   Winged Warrior List
171684   U   Automatic   Black   Bench   N/A   99530   Photos on Ebay
                     
                     
                     
                     


Please feel free to offer suggestions.  A table/spreadsheet of the entire fender tag is certainly possible but it may be tricky to fit on one page - may end up with one of those scroll right forever situations.....

Thanks,
Brennan

[Arnie Cunningham]

Formatting Suggestions Please!!

OK, I tried using good old tabs to make a Word based speadsheet appearing table of the data.
I tried putting the data in Excel
I tried putting the data in a table
I tried putting the data in a Dreamweaver table

All look good until the Post button is pressed and the formatting goes away.  Has anyone used the insert table keys in this site's message construction page?  I guess I can create it, Print screen it, Paint it, and post it as a photo lol.

Brennan

[pettybird]

775 is a four speed, black bench seat car. 

[rainbow4jd]

V0A169775 is more-or-less our car's doppelganger. 
I can't find the pic of the bcast sheet so I don't know what the J number is right now. 


Changes:
Add 440 six pack
delete exhaust tips
delete passenger mirror

J number is on the fender tag above the VIN (second row right hand side as I recall)

[rainbow4jd]

The format I suggest is two-fold:  one descriptive and the other fender tagged.


Exterior:  999 Corporation Blue
Interior:  White Buckets
Engine:  440-4V
Tranny:  Manual
Drive Ratio:  3:54 Dana
Console:  No
Wheels:  15" Rallye
Options:  AM Radio, Chrome Exhaust Tips

THEN simply list the Fender Tag codes starting with the Top Line as "Line 1"

L1
L2
L3
L4
L5
L6

[nascarxx29]

Off the top of my head.But not exactly certain without checking The 999 cars vins ranged from 157-177 . 23 24 cars maybe who knows for sure.But there is cars that are recorded as Petty blue birds one example .I know of that are probably still club recorded as petty blue.The story I heard on this car from the original purchasing owner Its was a white car sat unsold .At Gegnas chrysler plymouth  .And as a tribute to Richard Petty winning races it got converted to petty blue.Other notable actual 999 cars from my area Barry Kanick Joe Medwick .There was another petty blue one from Fl backed up wing to wing with a Y2 yellow Gary Forbus daytona in 87 Car Review Billy Schwindell Miami Fl

[Mopar John]

Does anyone have Tim and Pam Welborns museum 999 corporate blue Superbird info to add to this list?

[Arnie Cunningham]

I have found reference to, or seen photos of, 18 cars.  Does anyone remember the V code 4 speed 999 that was on Ebay a few years back.  The sale description had all the standard nonsense in it - "all original", "frame off" etc.   The photos were taken at a track with a big 43 on the door.  They were claiming it to be the only V code, 4 speed.  They wanted $275,000 I think.  The VIN was just a few off from mine.  16949? 3,4,5,?  Anyone still have the ad on file?

[pettybird]

Does anyone have Tim and Pam Welborns museum 999 corporate blue Superbird info to add to this list?

I asked to get a close up of the car, but didn't write down the VIN.  dummy...

the car with the 43's on the doors is Barry Kanick's car.  it's still for sale for Hemi money, as a joke. 

[nascarxx29]

I think I got Barry car vin he got it from a friend of mine Pat Deighan .Who got it from Steve B of Buffalo NY.Also mentioned him and his Petty blue car from older post bellow



 
Re: Anyone know about these 5 wing cars - 2 or 3 I have seen for sure and the other
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2009, 12:56:53 PM » Quote 



Steve Battaglia here in Buffalo is down to 3 I think from maybe 7 that he had a few years back.  Pretty cool stuff, he has hit a few cruises this year in his petty blue bird.

[nascarxx29]

Is the former owned Carl Payton 999 blue superbird that did reside in England accounted for on this registry

[Arnie Cunningham]

Just playing around with the "table" buttons.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7

Anyone know how these work?

Sure makes some weird designs.  Wish I knew HTML.

[nascarxx29]

I think this might be the 999 Petty blue UK superbird
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18061&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[pettybird]

I think this might be the 999 Petty blue UK superbird
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18061&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

thats's B5 all the way. 

[nascarxx29]

Ok thanks but there is one over in England I recall havent found it it was from Norfolk VA .Any thought on this ad for one 2008 claiming one of 4 six pack petty blue superbird
http://mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0108-63876&entryRow=409

[Arnie Cunningham]

Anyone know which one this is?

The one on ebay I saw was a six barrel.

This one is said to be a 4 barrel.

http://www.cars-on-line.com/21403.html

[Arnie Cunningham]

And THIS one???

Even though the ad is in black and white, I assume the car was Petty blue.  Was this a VIN-less Body In White in some stage of conversion to a race car?  Or was this a street car made to look like a race car?  No cut fenderwells, dark roof???  Yet, roll cage, decal issues, exhaust???

[Arnie Cunningham]

http://www.thefind.com/query.php?query=1970+Richard+Petty+magazine+ad

[nascarxx29]

Thats Barrys car on carsonline got it recorded .Seen it many times

[nascarxx29]

carsonline car RM23UOA158634. England superbird from Norfolk VA RM23UOA171684

[nascarxx29]

http://www.thefind.com/query.php?query=1970+Richard+Petty+magazine+ad

I got that actual magazine with that ad still in it.Gotta find it.Theres is a copy and its $49.95