Charger going tommorow

[41husk]

Just got a call from the shipper.  The 68 is being picked up tommorow   I have many great memories of that car.  I hope Australia is good for her.

[doctor4766]

Mate anyone over here who can afford to ship one into the country is sure to treat her right.
What model is she and what's her destination in Oz?
Paul

[41husk]

It went to a member on here G-man.  it is a #s matching 68 Charger 383/727 QQ1 blue.  It's not a trailor queen but a very nice driver that has won several shows.

[doctor4766]

Wow looks the goods mate.
Perfect car for roo shooting! Would do some nice circle work in the paddocks too 



Nahhhh..
I'm sure she'll be well taken care of.

[41husk]

I hope so, but going down under, if it gets trashed I will never see it

[doctor4766]

There's plenty of "real" car enthusiasts over here so don't you worry.
I'm sure anyone caught trashing the likes of your Charger would be hunted down and have some of their manhood removed.
Now "thrashing" is a different story 

[1969chargerrtse]

Just got a call from the shipper.  The 68 is being picked up tommorow   I have many great memories of that car.  I hope Australia is good for her.

Wow, another Charger going down under.

[doctor4766]

Just got a call from the shipper.  The 68 is being picked up tommorow   I have many great memories of that car.  I hope Australia is good for her.

Wow, another Charger going down under.

Yeah and we don't give em back either 

[MOsman82]

Very nice looking car that any Aussie enthusiast would be proud of.

Planning on taking my own 68 back to Australia (QLD) in about 6 months.

Has anyone had any problems getting their car back into (or registered in) Australia? Any recommendations/advice?

I'm in the middle of the restoration so, chances are, the car won't be finished (maybe not even running) by the time it comes to ship off to AUS. Will this be a problem?

My car is non numbers matching - problem?

Aussie members, please let me know your experiences.

Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks

[Darkman]

You will just need to select a reputable shipping company. Will cost around $6,000AUD ($5200US) (depending from and to) to ship a car from the US. This will include customs, quarantine and most transport fees. You may also need to pay GST (10% tax) on it so if it is not finished this may benefit you as you can put a lower estimate on the value of the car.

I hopefully will be the proud owner of a 68 Charger this time tomorrow purchased in the US and shipped over to Adelaide!

[mikesbbody]

Let's hope the new owner leaves it LHD! I'd hate to think of all the Classic American Iron butchered to RHD in Aus over the years    but they have changed the Law now so only a complete Idiot would do such a thing now.

[doctor4766]

Very nice looking car that any Aussie enthusiast would be proud of.
Planning on taking my own 68 back to Australia (QLD) in about 6 months.
Has anyone had any problems getting their car back into (or registered in) Australia? Any recommendations/advice?
I'm in the middle of the restoration so, chances are, the car won't be finished (maybe not even running) by the time it comes to ship off to AUS. Will this be a problem?
My car is non numbers matching - problem?
Aussie members, please let me know your experiences.
Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks

Numbers matching shouldn't be a problem.
You might want to check this out. It's from here> http://www.usmuscle.com.au/Forum/showthread.php?t=4797
The Australian Customs has rejected several modified cars recently claiming if you cannot PROVE the modification was done PRIOR to January 1989 they will redate it as a 2010 model vehicle and to cover therte ass they put this up on the DOTARS website on Tuesday Importation of converted vehicles under the pre 1989 scheme
They have rejected a 1950 Mercury because it has a top chop and custom paint
More info can be found on this forum Ozrodders.com
This means a Camaro that was originally a small block cannot be imported if it is fitted with a big block or a repro 32 ford roadster even though they already have the definition of a "Street Rod" that includes replicas.
Even a 66 mustang with mag wheels may get rejected. the thing is they dont tell you this until it has arrived on the dock HERE IN Australia

[doctor4766]

Let's hope the new owner leaves it LHD! I'd hate to think of all the Classic American Iron butchered to RHD in Aus over the years    but they have changed the Law now so only a complete Idiot would do such a thing now.

There's nothing worse than people asking me when I'm gonna do a RHD conversion.
The best argument they have for destroying my car in this way is that "It's gonna be difficult to overtake slow trucks if I can't see what's down the road from where I'm sitting".
I mean, who cares if I have to drop back a little to get a better view then plant it to get around them?
The only time we have to have a conversion done is if the vehicle is under a certain age. Stops people just bringing cheap late models in and making a quick dollar as the cost of RHD conversion isn't cheap.
And then there's the pussies who are too scared to drive LHD and prefer to fork out big bucks and end up with a car that's probably worth less than they paid for it.
I mean palease! They should just get over it or stick with local models.

[Bob T]

It went to a member on here G-man.  it is a #s matching 68 Charger 383/727 QQ1 blue.  It's not a trailor queen but a very nice driver that has won several shows.

Thats one nice 68 41husk , looks in great condition. hope the new owner treats like you did   



we dont change em to rhd out here, hell, send it to me 

[Darkman]

Let's hope the new owner leaves it LHD! I'd hate to think of all the Classic American Iron butchered to RHD in Aus over the years    but they have changed the Law now so only a complete Idiot would do such a thing now.

Well, I must be complete idiot then! I pisses me off when closed minded tossers have the right to insult people like this! I don't give a crap what people think, I'll be taking a beat up car for next to peanuts, and making into a nice car that I would like to drive, so how does that devalue the car?. If anything, it actually increases the value considering the state it is in now. Atleast I have the motivation to repair it rather than sit on it for 10 years letting it rot before I got off my lazy ass and did something about it....As I said before, for me to register it on the road here in South Australia, I would need it to be complete original. Why would I want a car like every other 68 Charger driver? It bores me senseless seeing yet another charger restored back to original....Sorry, but I take offense to being called a complete idiot...I would have thought you Americans would be proud that your beloved "Classic American Iron" be seen all over the world.

[41husk]

She just left the Mopad.  It didn't help that the driver kept saying how nice it was, but it did help that he wanted to here the WannaBee in the garage and see pictures of the Challenger Daytona and hauler.  He was here about an hour before he even started loading the Charger.  I took some pictures of her rolling down the road on the very top of the 7 car hauler like the king of the truck.  I will post them up after I get them developed and shrunk.  I have no regrets I would sell her again to buy my Daytona and meet Larry and his wife, but I will miss that old blue Charger

[doctor4766]

I'm sure I woulda had a tear in my eye at that moment.

[41husk]

Well, I consider myself a manly man, being a wrestling coach and large guy, but I would be lying if I said my eyes were clear

[G-man]

The owner is me and its landing in Botany, Sydney. Boat = 3800AU, Truck is 1100US from Illinoi-LA (wilmington) and then 10% on value once it arrives.

Btw - Im a complete idiot that would convert it to RHD for the reason of, cant see around left turn bends past rucks/cars etc up in hills and thus its not "as" safe. However that same complete idiot that would have done that decided to leave the blue one LHD. Only if I have excess money to turn the car into a pro-tourer style with next to everything custom would I change it over to RHD, guess that will be never so its safe 

I live on a farm with plenty dirt so prepare to see Dukesof hazard driving  Just kidding! (about the driving)

[mikesbbody]

Well, I must be complete idiot then! I pisses me off when closed minded tossers have the right to insult people like this! I don't give a crap what people think, I'll be taking a beat up car for next to peanuts, and making into a nice car that I would like to drive, so how does that devalue the car?. If anything, it actually increases the value considering the state it is in now. Atleast I have the motivation to repair it rather than sit on it for 10 years letting it rot before I got off my lazy ass and did something about it....As I said before, for me to register it on the road here in South Australia, I would need it to be complete original. Why would I want a car like every other 68 Charger driver? It bores me senseless seeing yet another charger restored back to original....Sorry, but I take offense to being called a complete idiot...I would have thought you Americans would be proud that your beloved "Classic American Iron" be seen all over the world.

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Dickman, you response is such a Epic fail, I don't know where to start! I would take the beat up car over a RHD mint car any day of the week reason? if it was made that way it should STAY that way we are talking about a fundamental part of the car being changed not adding mags of changing a Motor, interior etc why not just make it FWD while your at it? if it came down to owning a mint RHD American car, or none at all I would chose none at all and I know I'm not alone. "you Americans"? I'm from New Zealand you Moron! and yes, there's "Idiots" over here too that have done the RHD thing which devalues the car big time over here in fact, they are much harder (near impossible) to sell RHD. Would you change a Classic Aussy Car to LHD? no you would not! you are the closed minded Idiot and Tosser forums are all about opinions if you don't like it I'm sure there's a Telli Tubbies forum you can join you big time Loser!

[G-man]

  at replies.

I dont care if its RHD or LHD. I dont care if you do what pure vision did to the red 69 charger... infact that was awesome work. To get the actual differential completely centred rather than slightly to one side by modifying the entire undercarrige to do so is exactly what id do to mine if i had the $ for it, why?

Just because it was made in the factory for cheap doesnt mean it was the 'best' way to do it. Hence modified cars can cost huge $$$. Are customized cars bad? No, factories mass produced cars, could they have mass produced expensive custom cars? No.

So a mint RHD would definately be better than a rotting LHD car.

Just remember, jus tcause factory did it dont make it done the best way. If modified cars are bad because its not original (changing things more so than just sticking big wheels on) then I guess Mikes 68 pro-tourer, the other pro-tourer i seen here in blue thats 68 etc are all BAD cars and should be thrown away as an embarassment to 'true original cars'... I dont thinkso!

Anyways back to topic, Allens beautiful car is gone and it will be looked after. 

[mikesbbody]

So your telling me the designers, engineers etc at Chrysler got it wrong by putting the S.W on the left hand side? and all along it should have been on the RHS? gimme a break! if it were a FACTORY RHD Charger then leave it as is "if it aint broke, don't fix it" and to compare a RHD conversion to a pro tourer pro street, or anything else for that matter are 2 completely different things.
At the end of the day whatever someone does to their car I don't care because it's their car I just strongly disagree with conversions and that wont change.
I am sure this Charger will go to a good home and hopefully remain LHD or at least I hope so.

[C500]

The owner is me and its landing in Botany, Sydney. Boat = 3800AU, Truck is 1100US from Illinoi-LA (wilmington) and then 10% on value once it arrives.

So you're in Botany huh. My old 68 ended up there too, sent from NZ. It's for sale again now. http://classiccarsaustralia.net/ It's a very nice car, but certainly not "perfect condition" Check out the asking price too

[Bob T]

So you're in Botany huh. My old 68 ended up there too, sent from NZ. It's for sale again now. http://classiccarsaustralia.net/ It's a very nice car, but certainly not "perfect condition" Check out the asking price too
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must be the r/T badge they put on it eh     

[charger Downunder]

I cant wait to see the new car looks good George.
Right hook each to there own.
My conversion which was done in 1970 still looks good.

[68r/t]

I cant wait to see the new car looks good George.
Right hook each to there own.
My conversion which was done in 1970 still looks good.






Your Charger is one the few that looks good with the dash being done nicely,  I have seen them with Aussie Charger dashes and it looks terrible in my opinion.

So your telling me the designers, engineers etc at Chrysler got it wrong by putting the S.W on the left hand side? and all along it should have been on the RHS? gimme a break! if it were a FACTORY RHD Charger then leave it as is "if it aint broke, don't fix it" and to compare a RHD conversion to a pro tourer pro street, or anything else for that matter are 2 completely different things.
At the end of the day whatever someone does to their car I don't care because it's their car I just strongly disagree with conversions and that wont change.
I am sure this Charger will go to a good home and hopefully remain LHD or at least I hope so.

When I was looking at Chargers in Australia I would not even consider it if it was RHD , They have  a huge drop in value and only the people that really want RHD buy them and some are just nasty the way they are done.
When I go to a show and see a RHD Charger I just think "What a Shame"

[dodgey68]

Wow looks the goods mate.
Perfect car for roo shooting! Would do some nice circle work in the paddocks too 

Nahhhh..
I'm sure she'll be well taken care of.

Ha pissa, and fit a 5 post bull bar and do the B&S tours with it..
sweet another one to admire when it gets here,,,

[Vainglory, Esq.]

if it came down to owning a mint RHD American car, or none at all I would chose none at all and I know I'm not alone.

Ummm, pretty sure you are alone there, actually.

[PocketThunder]

How about making it center drive then both sides can argue about nothing!   

Congrats on your next Charger George and i feel for you guys overseas who have to shell out a ton of money for a car and then you have to wait 3,4,5,6 months before you even get it!   

Paul

[mikesbbody]

if it came down to owning a mint RHD American car, or none at all I would chose none at all and I know I'm not alone.

Ummm, pretty sure you are alone there, actually.

Not at all, I have a Friend with a mint 69 Coronet he bought it in Aus and brought it to NZ. The guy who looked at it before him (a German Man) turned it down because it was RHD my Friend bought it because it was cheap ended up bringing it back to NZ tried to sell it and cant. He wont take it to shows because it's RHD he even said if he ever gets another (Coronet) the one he has will be a parts car. Another car (73 SE Charger) came into the Country back in the early 70's it was converted to RHD I saw it about 7 years ago and the guy who owned it then converted back to LHD (a step in the right direction) there's a 70 Challenger for sale the guy can't get any bites because it's been converted to RHD...and so on. Most of the American car's here that are RHD are things like 4 door Chevy Impala's, 56/57 Chevy's nothing too exotic but I know over the years the process has been very sketcy in some cases even dangerous! I have heard of "chain driven" conversions where the steering box remained on the left side but the wheel was moved to the right! problems with Manifolds/Headers fitting etc. Now if the Charger was assembled in the USA RHD for export, I'd have no problem with it Like Doc said, if you find any differculty driving a LHD car then you shouldn't own one! stick with a RHD car. I don't know the rules in Aus, but here in NZ anything older than 20 years can stay LHD so we get a lot of late model pick ups that are converted there are ways around that rule. One way is you have to live in the USA for 3 months? with the car under your name before shipping it back. I believe there are 3? new Challengers here I think 2 have been converted to RHD (what a shame) the other I know the owner who once had 5 70 Challengers he REFUSED to change his new Challenger to RHD so he lived in the USA for 3 months before shipping it back.
But like I said before I really don't care what others do to their cars since I have nothing to do with them and I'm not the one that will have a hard time selling them when the time comes. 

[G-man]

Mikes, you are right up to a point. What i compared is totaly different to just sticking a steering wheel on the other side. However 'as factory made it' means no mods are alowed otherwise you have  gone from factory, irrelivant whether it was steering wheel, wheels, dash, seats, custom engine bay or whatever.

On the other hand, they were made LHD in america because they drive on the right side of the road, thats why there all made LHD. This is why all cars in AU are made RHD because we drive on left hand side. Why did the designers and governments etc choose to do it that way? The safest spot to sit on the road with the most vision around bends etc for safety is sitting closest to the middle, that is why when u drive on right side u have LHD (America) and when you drive on left side you have RHD (Australia). So going by that, if the dodge charger was made in AUS it would have been made RHD. America made them LHD for their driving conditions not because thats how it was 'meant' to be 'period'.

So for someone to go RHD in AU is only doing what teh factory would have done itself had it been here to meet the driving here.

Im not converting mine so dont worry. I dont see the sense in 10000 being spent for change of steering wheel

[Darkman]

I just want to clarify a few things about my arguement with RHD conversion. I agree that converting it will "devalue" the car in comparison to a LHD car. However, it will only devalue the car if you plan on selling it down the track. It can be a lot of work and expensive to do the conversion so it is a big commitment. I would not commit to such a big job just to sell it later on, so the value of the car means nothing to me or any body else for that matter. I am purchasing this type of car over an Aussie built muscle car for several reasons, but I want to drive it every weekend and enter it in the occasional car show (not to win or have the "correct" car, but to share what I have with other motoring enthusiasts). I have a friend that has a 69 Camaro (very nice considering) that is LHD and he hates driving around as he has nearly side swiped other cars.

I would also like to apologise to "you Americans" if I offended you with that comment (for some reason I thought mikesbbody was from the US, maybe it was the way he expressed his passion for these cars), I was just pissed at being called a complete idiot.

Mikesbbody, as for the comment of would I convert a classic Aussie car to LHD, why would I do that? I live in a country that drives RHD. Guys from the US love the Mad Max Interceptor (IMO I think it is a POS - they took a perfectly nice car and put all that crap on it, but each to their own) and if they wanted one and wanted to convert it to LHD, I would have no problem with that it is their car. I understand that this is a public forum and people are entitled to their opinions, but come on, why insult somebody? There are cars here that I like and I will comment on, but there are also cars that I do not like. I keep those comments to myself (or just ignore that thread). I don't think attacking or insulting somebody about what they want to do to their car is the right way to go about it (IMO).

Sorry for the hijack! George, you have yourself a very nice car!  I just wish I could have bought your red one from you! Best of luck with them.

[Laxy]

I would be too scared to buy any US mopar converted to RHD unless it was absolute deal of the century. The car is only original once and who knows what dodgy work could have gone into the conversion. It's enough of a worry just working out what dodgy work has gone into the body and mechanicals! I too have seen a few Challengers and Cudas over here with RHD conversions using aussie valiant dashboards etc - it's a real shame. I have no problem driving LHD in Aus, only annoying thing is carpark ticket machines if you don't have a passenger!!

Paying someone thousands of dollars to convert a classic muscle car to RHD just blows my mind. Reminds of some clown that converted his RHD Valiant to LHD cos he thought it would give him better weight distribution at the track. Not sure if the car ever made it out of the shed.

Awesome looking 68 by the way, exactly the sort of car I was after before I found mine. Actually a lot better. haha!!

[mikesbbody]

Darkman, I believe it was YOU that called me a "Tosser" I simply said "only a complete idiot would do that" had I said "Darkman" or anyone for that matter then I'd agree with you 100% but I did not it was you that threw the first verbal punch and I'm not the type to sit there and take it. I do apologise if I offended you as a individual but I still will never see the point in conversions.
If I am correct, there are a few Aussie Mopars in the USA and I have never heard of any being converted.
As a Kiwi, when we think of "American cars" (classics) we think: 1. Big Gas guzzlers (I mean that in a GOOD way LOL) and...(because we drive on the other side) the steering wheel is on the "other" side THAT is what a American car is even to a non Enthusiast. As mentioned a car is only original once and no, mine is not (has a different motor, rear end) but the wheel remains where it is and always will.
Anyway, this is the last time I will check into this thread I didn't mean to offend anyone but I make no apologies for saying what I feel and Darkman, don't take this  so seriously!

[G-man]

Reminds of some clown that converted his RHD Valiant to LHD cos he thought it would give him better weight distribution at the track. Not sure if the car ever made it out of the shed.

And thanks for the comment on my car , I still thank Allen from the bottom of my heart for the care and time he put into helping me out with photos and with the price above all things.  

[41husk]

No problem George.  I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.  How long will it take to get to Australia?  The guy who picked it up said he was dropping it off in Colorodo.

[G-man]

I think its 17 days on water once it leaves LA. So should be here within next 2 months. Dropping of Colorado? Maybe they switch trucks?

[Darkman]

Mine could be on the same boat George  . I just got word that an offer we placed on a 68 Charger was accepted...now for all the paperwork 

[41husk]

Good luck to both of you!  If the Daytona had not came up for sale I would have never sold the 68.  As for the price, That is the very bottom dollar I had to have to get the Daytona.  I would have never sold it that low if lLarry had not had the Daytona so reasonable.

[G-man]

Thanks Larry and the Daytona for getting Allen to sell Charger 

[d/ur/t]

Very nice looking car that any Aussie enthusiast would be proud of.

Planning on taking my own 68 back to Australia (QLD) in about 6 months.

Has anyone had any problems getting their car back into (or registered in) Australia? Any recommendations/advice?

I'm in the middle of the restoration so, chances are, the car won't be finished (maybe not even running) by the time it comes to ship off to AUS. Will this be a problem?

My car is non numbers matching - problem?

Aussie members, please let me know your experiences.

Sorry for all the questions.

Thanks

I wouldn't wory bout bringing one in I know a guy who has a numbers R/T for cheap with all the rust done and it's in QLD.lol check the avitar

[dodgey68]

I wouldn't wory bout bringing one in I know a guy who has a numbers R/T for cheap with all the rust done and it's in QLD.lol check the avitar
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may i cut in ,
was that 70 r/t in gipsland in victoria gettin work done before owner took it home to qld

[41husk]

Here is a picture of the car leaving for the west coast.

[41husk]

one more.

[G-man]

wow that car really does look good

[41husk]

The brakes were squeeling a bit when he loaded it.  It may be from sitting so long, just before I you bought it I replaced the master cylinder and the brakes were fine.  The transport guy sure like loading it.  one more picture of her going on the trailor.

[doctor4766]

Looks like a good "launch" position.
I'll bet he was tempted

[41husk]

I think he was a bit nervouse

[Darkman]

I don't blame him! The last thing you would want to do is damage that gorgeous car!