I think the 4 door Chargers are wining the popularity contest!

[Back N Black]

In the last couple of weeks cursing in the charger, I chatted with a few 4 door guys and they sort of snubbed the old 2 door Chargers. Having a coffee with a couple of friends that I have not seen in years and one of them mentioned that he had a charger. Wow that's awesome me too, what year? And he said 2009, what year is yours? I said 69 and they had a puzzled look on their face. We finished our coffee and went outside to look at the Chargers, They had a quick glance at my Charger and walked over to the 09 Charger, started going on and on about the gadgets and features. I jumped in my Charger, did a big old burn out and left!   

[Tilar]

Style overrides glamor and gadgets anyday.

[FLG]

 They don't get any  with there new rides do they?

Plus,

We all know real chargers only have 2 doors, and no fancy cup holders either.

[gschmidt211]

And you didn't have to turn the traction control off to do that burner when you left.

[1969chargerrtse]

Understood, but think about it if the scene was of a bunch of 69 cars out there and you were the 4 door Charger guy?  It's fair game. Same thing if you were with a bunch of Pinto people. You were the right guy with the right car among the wrong group of people in the wrong cars.

[twodko]

What FLG said...........loudly! Real Chargers have 2 and only 2 doors. These new 4 door abominations are lowly, butt ugly sedans and purchased by people who are "wanna-be real Charger" owners. They snub our cars because they know we own the real deal...... IMO.

Tom

[375instroke]

Cup holders.  Remember when cars had ash trays?  My '62 Cadillac has 7.  The guy in Mad Men drives one, and they use every one of those ash trays.  I can't think of one gadget I want in my Charger.  WTF is with doors that won't open or shifters that can't be moved when you want.  I guess the only gadget that would be nice is remote start and rear defrost.

[375instroke]

I really doubt any new Charger owners would want a first through third gen Charger.  I could see that happening with the new Challenger.  The new Charger is in name only, like the 1980's 4-cylinder Challenger and Chargers.  You're going to buy a car just for the name?

[bobs66440]

Same thing if you were with a bunch of Pinto people. 

Yeah, except there wouldn't be a burnout when they left! 

[Ponch ®]

What FLG said...........loudly! Real Chargers have 2 and only 2 doors. These new 4 door abominations are lowly, butt ugly sedans and purchased by people who are "wanna-be real Charger" owners. They snub our cars because they know we own the real deal...... IMO.

Tom

I own both, so I'm not exactly where that places me according to your criteria.

I didn't buy it for the name, I bought it because it was big, had a v8, RWD, and I liked the looks. So hate all you want!

[stripedelete]

Probably company cars..  Their other option was a Taurus or a Malibu......so they did the best they could.....

[twodko]

Why do people call a difference of opinion "hate"? My comment was about a difference of opinion........it had NOTHING to do with "hate" on any level and the inference is offensive.

Tom

[bakerhillpins]

Same thing if you were with a bunch of Pinto people. 

Yeah, except there wouldn't be a burnout when they left! 

Er well, unless someone hit them in the rear end and the gas tank exploded. 

[Troy]

In general, I have found that people looking at new cars care more about the "gadgets" than the car itself. It's apparent in the way they drive as well. Read some car reviews and you'll notice that there's usually only a paragraph about how the car actually drives (presumably it's main purpose).

I have found the same thing with cell phones - there are phones now that can work miracles but when you read closely you find that the call quality is horrible (ie the phone does everything well except what you really need a phone for).

I've said it before, people are different and have different tastes. If we were all the same we'd be a very boring bunch.

Troy

[GPULLER]

I like the new Chargers, when we were looking at new vehicles, we looked at getting one.  The new Charger didn't fit what we needed and we got a Durango.  Be cool to have a first gen and fourth.
I believe there are plenty new Charger owners out there with an old one in the garage too.  Who cares if it has 4 doors, times change, at least you can get a Hemi and they are RWD.  It makes our old Chargers that much more unique.

Hey Ponch...your Charger's sweet!   

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Why do people call a difference of opinion "hate"? My comment was about a difference of opinion........it had NOTHING to do with "hate" on any level and the inference is offensive.

Tom

These new 4 door abominations are lowly, butt ugly sedans and purchased by people who are "wanna-be real Charger" owners.

Yep, no hate there.  Just a well-reasoned, tactfully phrased "difference of opinion."

That's the ticket!

[bull]

This just provides further proof to me that other than the name, one car has nothing to do with the other. It's obvious to everyone that there was no attempt on Chrysler's part to make a new "Charger" that had anything to do with the old Charger so I'm not surprised a new "Charger" owner would act this way. The new cars were misnamed. Do a recall, R&R the nameplates with something that says Coronet or Intrepid, and the PR problems on both sides will go away.

And don't worry about that stupid "hate" label. It's been overused in the wrong context and therefore has no meaning anymore.

[Ponch ®]

Why do people call a difference of opinion "hate"? My comment was about a difference of opinion........it had NOTHING to do with "hate" on any level and the inference is offensive.

Tom

These new 4 door abominations are lowly, butt ugly sedans and purchased by people who are "wanna-be real Charger" owners.

Yep, no hate there.  Just a well-reasoned, tactfully phrased "difference of opinion."

That's the ticket!

hey, who is this guy?

[twodko]

Ponch,

"purchased by people who are "wanna-be real Charger" owners", in review, could easily be construed as offensive. I respectfully recind the above.

You're a guy whose threads/opinions carry a lot of weight with me whether we're on the same page or not. I enjoy them so keep 'em coming. We good?

Tom.

[Ponch ®]

Ponch,

"purchased by people who are "wanna-be real Charger" owners", in review, could easily be construed as offensive. I respectfully recind the above.

You're a guy whose threads/opinions carry a lot of weight with me whether we're on the same page or not. I enjoy them so keep 'em coming. We good?

Tom.

yeah, don't sweat it....we cool like Fonzie.  

I use "hate" in the context that bull alluded too - as part of the modern vernacular. As in "why y'all hatin'?"

[twodko]

We jus' gotta Rodney King.......yo.

Tom

[resq302]

Same thing if you were with a bunch of Pinto people. 

Yeah, except there wouldn't be a burnout when they left! 

Maybe a burn UP if you rear ended up when they left.   

[Wicked72]

Its nothing against the car just the name put on it... true Charger loyalty is in the roots of what the car is, and 4 is something its not. They put effort into keeping the look of the challenger yet bring it into the new age, but for the charger some douche bag threw together a car without taking a second thought into the travesty of putting the Charger name on it. Its a good looking car but its not a charger, its a dodge 4 door to me until they can come up with a different name.

[ITSA426]

I do get an occasional "thumbs up" from other driver with my 06 RT Daytona.  About as often as with any of the first gen cars that I own, or with my Rumblebee.  I bought it for the same reason I bought my very first Charger.  The new car is far more into gadgetry than the older ones simply because more gadgets are available.  The electronics in my 67 are mostly AM radio, two cigarette lighters for the five ashtrays - for the four passengers.

The 06 is faster in a straight line than anything I own except my hemi car and far better in a turn or braking.  There is a lot to be said for all the technology and safety features in the car.  On a long road trip the new car is far less work and far more comfortable and much better mpg.  The fact is Chrysler built a very good car on the LX platform.  I think there are copyright laws that require them to use/reuse the name Charger if they don't wish to lose it.  Chrysler owns the name and is free to do with it as they wish and if it's that offensive just don't buy it.

A lot of us who drove Chargers "in the day" are now loading grand-kids and groceries into the back seats and I don't mind the four doors at all.  For me it's nice to have the name.  It doesn't bother me.

By the way GPULLER the new Charger is the  sixth generation to wear the name.  (I stand corrected, I forget about the 75 & up body style even though we have an original owner car around here at shows - my fault) Let's not forget about the two door fourth gen metric car that was part of the Horizon, Omni, etc. line.  It might be nice to have one of those in a Shelby.  The owners of those are still Charger owners although that's not a B-body car either.  

I think a lot of people here own them and just don't say anything about it.  If you like that size car and it fits your needs I think it's worth a test drive.  My wife wanted another Regal but after a test drive she bought a well equipped  08 Charger SXT.  

[devilgear]

I guess i am one of the wanna bees....i own an 06 r/t....well that and a 73 charger as well...i get many thumbs up in my 06 by the way....i love both cars and so does my family...i would  much rather drive my new charger than any other sedan...a 400 hp rear wheel family car beats a prius any day of the week in my book...

[Road Dog]

By the way GPULLER the new Charger is the fifth Generation to wear the name.  Let's not forget about the two door fourth gen metric car that was part of the Horizon, Omni, etc. line.  It might be nice to have one of those in a Shelby.  The owners of those are still Charger owners although that's not a B-body car either.

What Generation are those mid 70's Chargers? I like the new Charger. Anything V8 and rear wheel drive has my vote.

[twodko]

Man, I hear you about the Pious's. While the new Chargers aren't attractive to me I do like the 300M (hope that's the model). Black on black with 18's they look bad and elegant at the same time. I've become accustomed to all the gadgetry we enjoy nowadays too. Having power windows and power seats with leather if you wanted to bump up to an SE, that must have been plush back in the day. We're all lucky and blessed to be able to afford a new car of any kind and have a vintage Charger, Superbee, Daytona, RR, Chally or GTX too. Could be a lot worse......remember the LeCar and the Yugo?  Yeoow!

Tom

[Neal_J]

As Gary Coleman would say...

[Lennard]

Its nothing against the car just the name put on it... true Charger loyalty is in the roots of what the car is, and 4 is something its not. They put effort into keeping the look of the challenger yet bring it into the new age, but for the charger some douche bag threw together a car without taking a second thought into the travesty of putting the Charger name on it. Its a good looking car but its not a charger, its a dodge 4 door to me until they can come up with a different name.

[Ponch ®]

Its nothing against the car just the name put on it... true Charger loyalty is in the roots of what the car is, and 4 is something its not. They put effort into keeping the look of the challenger yet bring it into the new age, but for the charger some douche bag threw together a car without taking a second thought into the travesty of putting the Charger name on it. Its a good looking car but its not a charger, its a dodge 4 door to me until they can come up with a different name.

I hear "its not the car, its the name..it'd be ok if it was named something else" a lot, and then in the next breath "the car is ugly/big/heavy..blah blah".

They are entirely different cars, they happen to share the same name. that's about it. On the other hand, I think that the R/T, Daytonas, and SRT's more than do justice to the name as far as performance and "badass" factor. Having said that, I'll be the first one to admit that I cringe when I see a fleet of 2.7L V6 plain "chargers" sitting in a car rental lot or as taxicabs...

Having been around the LX scene for about 4 years now, I can assure you that 90% of the people driving around in Chargers/Magnums/300's - and by "the people" i mean the car enthusiast types, even the bling bling homies - have nothing but respect and 'love' for the old muscle. If we're at a show/cruise and some one pulls up in an old muscle car/street rod/etc, everyone will start oggling at them.

By the same token, at these same cruises and car shows there are a lot of the old timers who'll come by and say stuff along the lines of "nice car...if I was your age now, this is what I'd be driving", or two old guys will walk by talking to each other, look at the car, and say "remember when we were kids their age? that was us". Now, I know my car isn't a SEMA showstopper by modern car standards and its NOT gonna steal any attention away from the Hemi road runner parked two cars over, but I've put a lot of work and effort (I've gotten away with not sinking a ton of $ into it though), so hearing stuff like that means a lot.

[Ghoste]

LOL, well that's why the name is wrong.  "Charger" just should not be applied to something that is big, heavy and ugly. 

[Ponch ®]

LOL, well that's why the name is wrong.  "Charger" just should not be applied to something that is big, heavy and ugly. 

explain the first gens then....

[Ghoste]

 

[stuga]

  I  think of it this way, 1) if dodge didn't produce a family car with 4doors and bend it a little to the males(charger name) then they probably would have went bankrupt a long time ago. 2) since the 4door remake has come out, there has been a steady rise in finding and restoring the first three Generations (makes me happy) 3) since the upsurge restoring the early years there has been a greater demand and a response from Mopar and other company's for reproduction parts.  
In light of these conditions, I don't mind the new chargers, It makes ours that much more desirable.

[Ghoste]

I think I would have to disagree that naming the current four door mid size Dodge family car had any real impact on staving off a financial meltdown.  Especially seeing as how they had one anyway.
I think I would also be highly skeptical that the current offering has had much to do with interest in restoring the older ones.  A tiny handful perhaps but very very few.
It's just my opinion though.

[GPULLER]

LOL, well that's why the name is wrong.  "Charger" just should not be applied to something that is big, heavy and ugly. 

explain the first gens then....

Come on now..play nice. 

[BigBlackDodge]

In the last couple of weeks cursing in the charger, I chatted with a few 4 door guys and they sort of snubbed the old 2 door Chargers. Having a coffee with a couple of friends that I have not seen in years and one of them mentioned that he had a charger. Wow that's awesome me too, what year? And he said 2009, what year is yours? I said 69 and they had a puzzled look on their face. We finished our coffee and went outside to look at the Chargers, They had a quick glance at my Charger and walked over to the 09 Charger, started going on and on about the gadgets and features. I jumped in my Charger, did a big old burn out and left!  

I was cursing in mine the other day too when the fusible link went poof!

Seriously though, they probably were upset because you removed the back doors on your classic...............what were you thinking man........



BBD

[TruckDriver]

I have found the same thing with cell phones - there are phones now that can work miracles but when you read closely you find that the call quality is horrible (ie the phone does everything well except what you really need a phone for).

Troy

Ain't that the truth. Just try to go and buy a cell phone that is strictly a phone, or a phone with a camera only. It's almost impossable now.

[Magnumcharger]

I guess I like the new Chargers...but mostly when they made them a two-door and called them "Challengers"! He he he

And I CONSTANTLY get thumbs up with my Plum Crazy Classic.....way more than my four-door Charger friends get with theirs.

And, as a matter of fact, I haven't seen this many "smiles per mile" since I used to drive my '68 Charger R/T!!

So I guess I've got the best of both worlds!

[mauve66]

so what gen is it now?

1st gen - 66/67
2nd gen - 68/70
3rd gen - 71/74
4th gen - 75/78?
5th gen - 86?/92?
6th gen - 06/current

[ITSA426]

Sounds about right unless we include the 64 & 65 concept cars.

[Black Charger]

I find it funny that people slam the LX Chargers because they don't look like the old ones, but yet, absolutely NONE of the previous generations of Chargers resembled each other. I actually think that the LX Chargers borrow a few subtle lines from the first and second generations (please spare me the "it wasn't designed by someone who was into classic Mopars" argument), where the previous gens didn't share anything with other gens. Not a single body panel. Chrysler created a powerful, attractive RWD HEMI-powered muscle car that has gained it's own following with an entirely new generation of enthusiasts. That can't be all bad, can  it?

[TK73]

I really tried to give the new ones a chance.  I like the front end but the back doors and body lines there just F up the whole thing.

Rented one for a w/e.  Felt like I was back driving my Suburban with all the room behind the front seats.  Hated the way it drove/felt.

[200MPH]

I find it funny that people slam the LX Chargers because they don't look like the old ones, but yet, absolutely NONE of the previous generations of Chargers resembled each other. I actually think that the LX Chargers borrow a few subtle lines from the first and second generations (please spare me the "it wasn't designed by someone who was into classic Mopars" argument), where the previous gens didn't share anything with other gens. Not a single body panel. Chrysler created a powerful, attractive RWD HEMI-powered muscle car that has gained it's own following with an entirely new generation of enthusiasts. That can't be all bad, can  it?

[BigBlackDodge]

I find it funny that people slam the LX Chargers because they don't look like the old ones, but yet, absolutely NONE of the previous generations of Chargers resembled each other. I actually think that the LX Chargers borrow a few subtle lines from the first and second generations (please spare me the "it wasn't designed by someone who was into classic Mopars" argument), where the previous gens didn't share anything with other gens. Not a single body panel. Chrysler created a powerful, attractive RWD HEMI-powered muscle car that has gained it's own following with an entirely new generation of enthusiasts. That can't be all bad, can  it?

Dodge had the design of the car before the name was picked, thats a fact! Finding similar styling cues to any of the old versions is a joke, because there wasn't any desgined into it from the start.......they didn't know what it was going to be called. My 2000 Intrepid shares as much 'Charger' heritage as any of the new versions......   This will soon change with 2011 Charger though, they're now slapping on the 'Charger' styling elements to please the critics and improve it's looks. Still sporting 4 doors though. 

One thing all the old Chargers from the 60's to the 80's shared.................the number of doors.


BBD

[chargergirl]

LOL, well that's why the name is wrong.  "Charger" just should not be applied to something that is big, heavy and ugly. 

explain the first gens then....

WHAT! First Gens are BEAUTIFUL! They are the beginning of all that is Charger!

[Akron_Charger]

i like the new ones (especially the Daytonas), prefer the old ones of course. not sure i like the 2011 look though from what ive seen so far

[MRCHARGER]

Unless you own both you're just speculating as to how close the new Charger is to being a "real" Charger. In the 80's a tiny little re-shaped omni called the shelby charger came out and I didn't think of it as a real Charger. Then my wife bought one with the shelby package and the turbo it had decent power but it came from the front wheels! It had a hatch back, but according to you guys it's a real Charger because it had only two doors. Not in my book, a real Charger can hang the back end around a corner, tires ablaze, and without the ebrake on.

I drive my 08 just as hard as I have ever driven my 68 and with the exception of straight line excellartion and the nostalgia factor, the new one beats it in all other areas. Cold air and Diablo tuned it shocks many new and old mustangs regularly. My 68 Charger was marketed as a family performance car with seating for five. My 08 is just a badass family sedan.

MaMopar decides what is a real Charger and what isn't so you just have to figure out how to deal with it. Love it or hate it, it's a Charger. Seems like DodgeCharger.com would be the place where all things Charger are celebrated, loved and respected. Doesn't seem like thats the case in this thread.

I hope I don't run accross a new 6.1 Charger with twin turbos because my 540hp 440 will not be enough.

Sounds like some of you guys might be using rotary dial phones with the line split for dial-up service. Can't you embrace just a little bit of the modern era? We have Hemi and R/T and rear wheel drive again just go with it man. Or are you jealous that there is a new generation of gear heads who get to run up and down woodward in rearwheel drive muscle cars? I'm really one of the lucky ones I can go modern or old school just depends on what keys I grabjavascript:void(0);

[Back N Black]

Unless you own both you're just speculating as to how close the new Charger is to being a "real" Charger. In the 80's a tiny little re-shaped omni called the shelby charger came out and I didn't think of it as a real Charger. Then my wife bought one with the shelby package and the turbo it had decent power but it came from the front wheels! It had a hatch back, but according to you guys it's a real Charger because it had only two doors. Not in my book, a real Charger can hang the back end around a corner, tires ablaze, and without the ebrake on.

I drive my 08 just as hard as I have ever driven my 68 and with the exception of straight line excellartion and the nostalgia factor, the new one beats it in all other areas. Cold air and Diablo tuned it shocks many new and old mustangs regularly. My 68 Charger was marketed as a family performance car with seating for five. My 08 is just a badass family sedan.

MaMopar decides what is a real Charger and what isn't so you just have to figure out how to deal with it. Love it or hate it, it's a Charger. Seems like DodgeCharger.com would be the place where all things Charger are celebrated, loved and respected. Doesn't seem like thats the case in this thread.

I hope I don't run accross a new 6.1 Charger with twin turbos because my 540hp 440 will not be enough.

Sounds like some of you guys might be using rotary dial phones with the line split for dial-up service. Can't you embrace just a little bit of the modern era? We have Hemi and R/T and rear wheel drive again just go with it man. Or are you jealous that there is a new generation of gear heads who get to run up and down woodward in rearwheel drive muscle cars? I'm really one of the lucky ones I can go modern or old school just depends on what keys I grabjavascript:void(0);

When i started the thread, my point was that the new charger owners(for the most part) no nothing about the charger heritage. They think the charger was created in 2005 and there was no such thing as a 2 door charger, nor do they care. I checked out a new Hemi charger and did not like it, so i bought a Impala SS.

[Ponch ®]

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1457/americas-hardest-to-get-cars/

[mleist89]

hi, my name is morgan and im new to this site. 1969 charger all the way!!!

[Ponch ®]

hi, my name is morgan and im new to this site. 1969 charger all the way!!!

blah..69's arent real chargers because they have that funny thing in the middle of the grille and lack round side markers!

EVERYONE knows only 68's are real chargers.

[ITSA426]

Unless you own both you're just speculating as to how close the new Charger is to being a "real" Charger. In the 80's a tiny little re-shaped omni called the shelby charger came out and I didn't think of it as a real Charger. Then my wife bought one with the shelby package and the turbo it had decent power but it came from the front wheels! It had a hatch back, but according to you guys it's a real Charger because it had only two doors. Not in my book, a real Charger can hang the back end around a corner, tires ablaze, and without the ebrake on.

I drive my 08 just as hard as I have ever driven my 68 and with the exception of straight line excellartion and the nostalgia factor, the new one beats it in all other areas. Cold air and Diablo tuned it shocks many new and old mustangs regularly. My 68 Charger was marketed as a family performance car with seating for five. My 08 is just a badass family sedan.

MaMopar decides what is a real Charger and what isn't so you just have to figure out how to deal with it. Love it or hate it, it's a Charger. Seems like DodgeCharger.com would be the place where all things Charger are celebrated, loved and respected. Doesn't seem like thats the case in this thread.

I hope I don't run accross a new 6.1 Charger with twin turbos because my 540hp 440 will not be enough.

Sounds like some of you guys might be using rotary dial phones with the line split for dial-up service. Can't you embrace just a little bit of the modern era? We have Hemi and R/T and rear wheel drive again just go with it man. Or are you jealous that there is a new generation of gear heads who get to run up and down woodward in rearwheel drive muscle cars? I'm really one of the lucky ones I can go modern or old school just depends on what keys I grabjavascript:void(0);

When i started the thread, my point was that the new charger owners(for the most part) no nothing about the charger heritage. They think the charger was created in 2005 and there was no such thing as a 2 door charger, nor do they care. I checked out a new Hemi charger and did not like it, so i bought a Impala SS.

So do we tear into the history of the huge Imapla SS sedan or just start a new thread?  Wasn't the Impala once available as a four door and even a station wagon?

[Ponch ®]

Unless you own both you're just speculating as to how close the new Charger is to being a "real" Charger. In the 80's a tiny little re-shaped omni called the shelby charger came out and I didn't think of it as a real Charger. Then my wife bought one with the shelby package and the turbo it had decent power but it came from the front wheels! It had a hatch back, but according to you guys it's a real Charger because it had only two doors. Not in my book, a real Charger can hang the back end around a corner, tires ablaze, and without the ebrake on.

I drive my 08 just as hard as I have ever driven my 68 and with the exception of straight line excellartion and the nostalgia factor, the new one beats it in all other areas. Cold air and Diablo tuned it shocks many new and old mustangs regularly. My 68 Charger was marketed as a family performance car with seating for five. My 08 is just a badass family sedan.

MaMopar decides what is a real Charger and what isn't so you just have to figure out how to deal with it. Love it or hate it, it's a Charger. Seems like DodgeCharger.com would be the place where all things Charger are celebrated, loved and respected. Doesn't seem like thats the case in this thread.

I hope I don't run accross a new 6.1 Charger with twin turbos because my 540hp 440 will not be enough.

Sounds like some of you guys might be using rotary dial phones with the line split for dial-up service. Can't you embrace just a little bit of the modern era? We have Hemi and R/T and rear wheel drive again just go with it man. Or are you jealous that there is a new generation of gear heads who get to run up and down woodward in rearwheel drive muscle cars? I'm really one of the lucky ones I can go modern or old school just depends on what keys I grabjavascript:void(0);

When i started the thread, my point was that the new charger owners(for the most part) no nothing about the charger heritage. They think the charger was created in 2005 and there was no such thing as a 2 door charger, nor do they care. I checked out a new Hemi charger and did not like it, so i bought a Impala SS.

So do we tear into the history of the huge Imapla SS sedan or just start a new thread?  Wasn't the Impala once available as a four door and even a station wagon?

shhh...don't tell him it's a Caprice!

[ITSA426]

Metro's Old Car Price Guide lists Impala 4d Sed and 3 seat station wagons from 1958 thru at least 1985.  I guess Chevy was building Impala 4 doors before the Dodge Charger was a concept car.  I better go check our 67 396 Impala convertible in the shed and make sure it has the right number of doors.

[jb666]

I've purchased an Impala SS , a Taurus SHO and an 06 Charger RT. The SS and SHO were brand new when I got them. Awesome machines, but what I NEEDED at the time was a "family car", because putting my daughter's in the back of my '70 Formula was a bit difficult at times...

They served their purpose, but left a lot to be desired in the end... I LOVED the ride of the 06 Charger, but it was a dog. All I did was tune it, put exhaust on, a CAI, and sell it... It was probably one of my shortest owned cars.. But I could never knock the ride.

To date, my Impala SS was the best 4 door car I've ever owned.. Until a tech at the Chevy dealership totaled it with 5500 miles on it. 

[Back N Black]

So do we tear into the history of the huge Impala SS sedan or just start a new thread? Wasn't the Impala once available as a four door and even a station wagon?

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger. 

[ITSA426]

That's why it's a good hobby. Each one get to to choose their favorite, for any reason they want.  You don't even have to own it to enjoy it.

[mauve66]

Unless you own both you're just speculating as to how close the new Charger is to being a "real" Charger. In the 80's a tiny little re-shaped omni called the shelby charger came out and I didn't think of it as a real Charger. Then my wife bought one with the shelby package and the turbo it had decent power but it came from the front wheels! It had a hatch back, but according to you guys it's a real Charger because it had only two doors. Not in my book, a real Charger can hang the back end around a corner, tires ablaze, and without the ebrake on.

I drive my 08 just as hard as I have ever driven my 68 and with the exception of straight line excellartion and the nostalgia factor, the new one beats it in all other areas. Cold air and Diablo tuned it shocks many new and old mustangs regularly. My 68 Charger was marketed as a family performance car with seating for five. My 08 is just a badass family sedan.

MaMopar decides what is a real Charger and what isn't so you just have to figure out how to deal with it. Love it or hate it, it's a Charger. Seems like DodgeCharger.com would be the place where all things Charger are celebrated, loved and respected. Doesn't seem like thats the case in this thread.

I hope I don't run accross a new 6.1 Charger with twin turbos because my 540hp 440 will not be enough.

Sounds like some of you guys might be using rotary dial phones with the line split for dial-up service. Can't you embrace just a little bit of the modern era? We have Hemi and R/T and rear wheel drive again just go with it man. Or are you jealous that there is a new generation of gear heads who get to run up and down woodward in rearwheel drive muscle cars? I'm really one of the lucky ones I can go modern or old school just depends on what keys I grabjavascript:void(0);

[Ponch ®]

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger.  

which Impala "SS" was it? The overgrown taxicab Caprice version, or the newer FWD Meter Maid / Mall Cop special?

[Back N Black]

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger.  

which Impala "SS" was it? The overgrown taxicab Caprice version, or the newer FWD Meter Maid / Mall Cop special?

My Mall Cop special would blow the doors of your grandpa grocery getter Charger, all 4 doors.  

[MRCHARGER]

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger.




which Impala "SS" was it? The overgrown taxicab Caprice version, or the newer FWD Meter Maid / Mall Cop special?

My Mall Cop special would blow the doors of your grandpa grocery getter Charger, all 4 doors.




I had to drive my grandma's impala to Cheboygan, it was an awful car. The impala couldn't blow the doors off my Ram Van. If an impala ss could blow doors off of anything people would run them out on woodward and they don't.

There are some guys who own an old Charger and then there are Charger guys, it's pretty clear where we stand. I've owned every generation of Charger except the first (would love a 67) and wouldn't drive anything else.

[Back N Black]

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger.




which Impala "SS" was it? The overgrown taxicab Caprice version, or the newer FWD Meter Maid / Mall Cop special?

My Mall Cop special would blow the doors of your grandpa grocery getter Charger, all 4 doors.




I had to drive my grandma's impala to Cheboygan, it was an awful car. The impala couldn't blow the doors off my Ram Van. If an impala ss could blow doors off of anything people would run them out on woodward and they don't.

There are some guys who own an old Charger and then there are Charger guys, it's pretty clear where we stand. I've owned every generation of Charger except the first (would love a 67) and wouldn't drive anything else.

There is a big difference in a V6 and a V8 impala.

[ITSA426]

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[TK73]

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger.




which Impala "SS" was it? The overgrown taxicab Caprice version, or the newer FWD Meter Maid / Mall Cop special?

My Mall Cop special would blow the doors of your grandpa grocery getter Charger, all 4 doors.




I had to drive my grandma's impala to Cheboygan, it was an awful car. The impala couldn't blow the doors off my Ram Van. If an impala ss could blow doors off of anything people would run them out on woodward and they don't.

There are some guys who own an old Charger and then there are Charger guys, it's pretty clear where we stand. I've owned every generation of Charger except the first (would love a 67) and wouldn't drive anything else.

There is a big difference in a V6 and a V8 impala.

Yep, from what I recall the SS used an iron head LT1 engine...  Buick did a Roadmaster version also, a friend has one.

So, can an LT1 engined SS barge blow the doors off a Ram van?

[Ponch ®]

Impala always made a 4 door, so no suprises. basically i liked the Impala over the charger.




which Impala "SS" was it? The overgrown taxicab Caprice version, or the newer FWD Meter Maid / Mall Cop special?

My Mall Cop special would blow the doors of your grandpa grocery getter Charger, all 4 doors.




I had to drive my grandma's impala to Cheboygan, it was an awful car. The impala couldn't blow the doors off my Ram Van. If an impala ss could blow doors off of anything people would run them out on woodward and they don't.

There are some guys who own an old Charger and then there are Charger guys, it's pretty clear where we stand. I've owned every generation of Charger except the first (would love a 67) and wouldn't drive anything else.

There is a big difference in a V6 and a V8 impala.

more torque steer? 

[200MPH]

i have to admit the car is growing on me !