Anyone know older Dodge trucks?

[Troy]

For some reason my usual Googling skills are failing...

I need information on a 1976 Power Wagon.

1. Why do people use W200 and W250 when I can only find documentation for 200?
2. How unusual is one of these with a 440? How about A/C (and cruise)?
3. Is a Dana 44/NP-205/Dana 60 combination correct? I think some of my information has gotten mixed with the M880s which were all (as far as I can tell) full time 4WD.
4. Are there any good forums or other web sites for information? I am already a member of Ramchargercentral.com.

Thanks,
Troy

[elacruze]

Pirate 4x4 has about the deepest well of knowledge I've come across-

www.pirate4x4.com

Never wondered a question I couldn't find a good answer for there.

[Troy]

Yeah, I looked there (been following the site forever but not a member) and didn't see what I was looking for. They are geared more towards off roading and modifications for off roading it seems.

I also need to know the size of the dual tanks.

Troy

[Todd Wilson]

For some reason my usual Googling skills are failing...

I need information on a 1976 Power Wagon.

1. Why do people use W200 and W250 when I can only find documentation for 200?
2. How unusual is one of these with a 440? How about A/C (and cruise)?
3. Is a Dana 44/NP-205/Dana 60 combination correct? I think some of my information has gotten mixed with the M880s which were all (as far as I can tell) full time 4WD.

D means 2wd and W means 4wd    100-halfton  200-3/4 ton and 300 means 1 ton. All the way up to 800.  Some years they went to the 50 on each one. Ford did the same thing. Why I dont know, Maybe it was to make the public think the trucks were a tad bigger.

Not uncommon to find one with a 440 and air and cruise. The manual transmission to a 440 is a little bit more rare. Guys out there will pay big $$$ for the big block bell housing.

Transfer case is the 205. Not familiar with them to know if they are part or full.  Probably has a 435 four speed transmission.  Surprised a 3/4 ton doesnt have a Dana 60 up front as well as out back.

As far as dual gas tanks I dont really know how much they hold.   Some had the in cab tank  and then a belly tank. My belly tank in my D200 holds 25 gallons. On some trucks the dual tanks were the one belly tank and then a another tank in the rear where the spare tire would be. Both those would have the normal bed side fuel cap hole.

Electrical under the dash and all systems in the engine compartment are identical to my 71 Charger.


No one gave these 72 and up trucks much thought 6-8 years ago. Dime a dozen and parts are cheap. They are now starting to become more rare and people are playing with them now. Price of parts for them on ebay has sky rocketed in recent years. I paid like 75$ for a brand new grill still in the box about 8 years ago. They are now 350$.


Todd

[FJMG]

Todd is bang-on, the only thing I can add is that I have the 1979 tech brochure and the designation was still D200/W200 so I would deduce that the 250 did not start until after that. As far as the dana 44, maybe that had something to do with the GVW since in 79 (and other years as well) the W200 started at 6900# with the optional 8400#. I know my 97 has a 60 up front but it is 8800#. The dual tanks in 79 seem to be 15 gal. front and 17.5 gal rear but the funny thing is it seems to stipulate that the dual tank option was only available on club cabs in 79?

On a side note, I remember a 440 powered 78 Ramcharger that was a tow vehicle at the 88 nats. I was quite intriged since I had never seen one (as were others) and as the saturday wore on some more knowledgeable than I informed the owner that the tow rig was much more rare than the musclecar he towed to the show!

[Todd Wilson]

My 74 Club Cab has just one belly tank.  My 76 regular cab  has the in cab tank and a belly tank. I wish my club had the 2nd tank as 25gals dont move a 440 4.10 gear truck very far without stopping for fuel.


Todd

[RD]

www.ramchargercentral.com

i have found this site being the most knowledgeable of dodge 4x4 trucks.

[moparstuart]

www.ramchargercentral.com

i have found this site being the most knowledgeable of dodge 4x4 trucks.

todd can supply you with a rear door   .

[Alaskan_TA]

Some 1976 Dodge truck / van info at the link below.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1976DealershipDataBook-09.shtml

[Todd Wilson]

www.ramchargercentral.com

i have found this site being the most knowledgeable of dodge 4x4 trucks.

Yeah except the guy that runs is a dick!  I didnt make it 2 days there and was gone.


todd

[RD]

www.ramchargercentral.com

i have found this site being the most knowledgeable of dodge 4x4 trucks.

Yeah except the guy that runs is a dick!  I didnt make it 2 days there and was gone.


todd

lol, todd.. you sure it was the guy? hehehehehe

[kab69440]

The manual transmission to a 440 is a little bit more rare. Guys out there will pay big $$$ for the big block bell housing.

How big $$$ are we talking, and do you know anyone who will?

[Troy]

Some 1976 Dodge truck / van info at the link below.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/dealerships/1976DealershipDataBook-09.shtml

Thanks! I wish more of those were in color.

Troy

[69fuchs]

For some reason my usual Googling skills are failing...

I need information on a 1976 Power Wagon.

1. Why do people use W200 and W250 when I can only find documentation for 200?
2. How unusual is one of these with a 440? How about A/C (and cruise)?
3. Is a Dana 44/NP-205/Dana 60 combination correct? I think some of my information has gotten mixed with the M880s which were all (as far as I can tell) full time 4WD.
4. Are there any good forums or other web sites for information? I am already a member of Ramchargercentral.com.

Thanks,

Troy

1. w100=1/2 ton  w150=heavy half ton etc.

2. quite a few 440's, don't know about cruise.

3. 3/4 ton will generally have dana 44 up front,  1 ton will have dana 60 up front.  Most of these trucks 1975-up will have full time 4wd. (even the 3/4 and 1 tons.)

    Earlier trucks 72-74 will have divorced transfer cases (gear driven w/no chain to break) with lockouts.

    1/2 ton 72-74 will also have a larger bolt pattern, with the 8-3/4 rear axle
   
    1/2 ton 75-80 (at least) will have the 5x4.5 bolt pattern.

I believe 76 was the last year to have the fuel tank in the cab.

[694spdRT]

Our 1975 Dodge W300 is a factory 440 4 speed that was a former mini pumper firetruck. It is the only factory 440 4 speed truck I have ever seen. I am sure there are others out there but not many. It has a NP203 full time transfer case and Dana 60 front/Dana 70 rear with 4.88 gears. I think the designation changed from 100 to 150 etc. in 1981.

I have a 1980 parts truck that was a wierd year. It still has the older body style with the newer part time running gear and it is called a Power Ram. I believe it is still a 200 series though. It has a NP208 part time case and lockout hubs with 3.54 gears. 

[Todd Wilson]

1. w100=1/2 ton  w150=heavy half ton etc.

From 72 to at least 76 they never had a "heavy half ton"     As far as I know  the series were 100,200,300 and up.   Certain later years they referred to them as 150 250 and 350  and usually it was when Ford did it. May have even started when they went to the Ram name. Theres no such thing as a 150 in 76.


Todd

[Todd Wilson]

Our 1975 Dodge W300 is a factory 440 4 speed that was a former mini pumper firetruck. It is the only factory 440 4 speed truck I have ever seen. I am sure there are others out there but not many. It has a NP203 full time transfer case and Dana 60 front/Dana 70 rear with 4.88 gears. I think the designation changed from 100 to 150 etc. in 1981.

I have a 1980 parts truck that was a wierd year. It still has the older body style with the newer part time running gear and it is called a Power Ram. I believe it is still a 200 series though. It has a NP208 part time case and lockout hubs with 3.54 gears. 

The 80 body should be slightly different then your 75.   At a glance they look the same but if you really look at them they are a tad different.  Is your 80 dash different then the 75?


Todd

[GPULLER]

Those dealer option books are interesting.  Why isn't the 300's included, was there a "heavy duty" section?
Dad bought a new '74 W300 cab and chassis with 360 4spd and he also bought a '76 D300 Club Cab dually Adventure Sport with the Camper 7500 package with a 440 auto.  Still have both trucks.

[Todd Wilson]

Those dealer option books are interesting.  Why isn't the 300's included, was there a "heavy duty" section?
Dad bought a new '74 W300 cab and chassis with 360 4spd and he also bought a '76 D300 Club Cab dually Adventure Sport with the Camper 7500 package with a 440 auto.  Still have both trucks.

My 74 D200 is a Camper Special 9000 package. I seem to notice at least in my area  the 1 ton duallys are hard to find from that era. I wonder how many of them they made.


Todd

[GPULLER]

Those dealer option books are interesting.  Why isn't the 300's included, was there a "heavy duty" section?
Dad bought a new '74 W300 cab and chassis with 360 4spd and he also bought a '76 D300 Club Cab dually Adventure Sport with the Camper 7500 package with a 440 auto.  Still have both trucks.

My 74 D200 is a Camper Special 9000 package. I seem to notice at least in my area  the 1 ton duallys are hard to find from that era. I wonder how many of them they made.


Todd

Cant be many 1 ton duallys built.  I do see more Cab/chassis duallys than Club Cab duallys.  Been a few real sweet ones on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170481115158&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT#v4-36

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110524674906&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

[694spdRT]

Our 1975 Dodge W300 is a factory 440 4 speed that was a former mini pumper firetruck. It is the only factory 440 4 speed truck I have ever seen. I am sure there are others out there but not many. It has a NP203 full time transfer case and Dana 60 front/Dana 70 rear with 4.88 gears. I think the designation changed from 100 to 150 etc. in 1981.

I have a 1980 parts truck that was a wierd year. It still has the older body style with the newer part time running gear and it is called a Power Ram. I believe it is still a 200 series though. It has a NP208 part time case and lockout hubs with 3.54 gears. 

The 80 body should be slightly different then your 75.   At a glance they look the same but if you really look at them they are a tad different.  Is your 80 dash different then the 75?


Todd

The dash is still the same as the earlier model but the door panels are like the newer ones on the '81 up trucks. It has the same steering column and wheel as my '79 Ramcharger. The rear window is also the larger one. I had a guy that needed one for a '90 and that was the only one that fit out of my older 72-80 Dodges. The hood is the same as the 79-93 version. Fenders, doors, and box were the older styling.