Adios Charger forum

[mystarcollectorcar.com]

It's no secret that I was flagged by other members for starting threads with links to my site but I'm past the point where I feel like apologizing.

Typically this has been really well received on other forums because we are, above all, a car guy site not a kiddie porn site.

Some of you guys seem to have problems making a distinction between the 2 concepts...

Other sites have seen this as value added to their own sites-in fact we receive a lot of positive feedback for this effort.

But not on DodgeCharger.com and that, to me is really disappointing because I bleed Mopar - and have since the late 1950s before I even started school. I could see being treated like a leper on a Ferrari forum because my site really doesn't cover that stuff-we're a blue collar site and every day I talk to blue collar guys about their cars.

Not here-I couldn't even post a topic about Kurt Busch coming out of nowhere to win the All Star race without the thread degenerating into a lecture for posting the results of the race.That's wrong.

I was excited about the win and I wanted to share that with fellow Dodge guys on a Dodge site- a "criminal" act because I didn't think about the guy who was so unmotivated about the results that he didn't watch it live and came to this site before watching the race.Hence, I was called a dumbass...

Anyhow-every site whether it's mine, or this one, is driven by traffic and forums are always looking for new members.How you expect to keep new guys around is anybody's best guess but I would highly recommend that you guys retract the knives and don't treat this site like your personal kingdom.

I will always be a 100% MOPAR guy-not even the crap I've seen on this site will change that but I have to admit I'm really disappointed with what I've seen here-that's why I'm pulling the plug on my membership here.Running a site is a big job and getting into ridiculous debates is counterproductive.

Anyhow,I'm logging out for good so any feedback about would have to come through my site under contact so don't PM me-nobody's home.

sincerely
Jerry Sutherland (I don't hide behind usernames)
mystarcollectorcar.com

[68X426]

My dog thanks you for ending your agenda driven participation.

[bull]

I missed the transition from apologetic to spiteful. Looks to me like you should have just stuck with apologetic.

[SFRT]

does this mean more bandwith for me to post more pics of my car? COOL!

[elacruze]

Nobody ever said Charger owners are mainstream, even amongst Mopar fans.
Life goes on.

[elacruze]

does this mean more bandwith for me to post more pics of my car? COOL!

Ok...waiting...

[Daytona R/T SE]

It's no secret that I was....................................

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH X 1000.......................................................

sincerely
Jerry Sutherland (I don't hide behind usernames)
mystarcollectorcar.com

Jerry, Do the letters  "F O" mean anything to you ?

[Darkman]

I think what's done is done. The guy has left the forum, so there is no need to continue to attack the guy.

[A383Wing]

[mikesbbody]

We all have run in's from time to time I don't think it's worth leaving over that.
Stick around this is a good site 

[Khyron]

I've never had one negative comment to make, kinda liked the links..... but damn, my 17 year old throws tantrums like this.

don't let the E-Door hit you in the tush....

*EDIT* ohh and Jason Rittner. Don't understand the hiding behind names thing, But if it makes you feel any better.

[Brock Samson]

i think the problem was he didn't participate in our site just directed traffic to his,..  kinda' rude if ya' ask me..
   

[69*F5*SE]

 

[68charger383]

i think the problem was he didn't participate in our site just directed traffic to his,..  kinda' rude if ya' ask me..
   

Isn't that the definition for a parasite. 

[Ghoste]

In his defence, the particular topic where the latest incident began he didn't provide a link to his own site.  It appeared he was trying to make an honest attempt to participate in this site but he made the mistake of going doing it with a NASCAR thread and he ended up making a whole new group of friends (folks that I might add did not take part in attacking him for just trying to direct traffic to his site).  About the only thing he could have done with equal controversy would be to start a topic about the DOH or the GL.  It's the two areas that comprise the Charger world answer to politics and religion.

[PocketThunder]

In his defence, the particular topic where the latest incident began he didn't provide a link to his own site.  It appeared he was trying to make an honest attempt to participate in this site but he made the mistake of going doing it with a NASCAR thread and he ended up making a whole new group of friends (folks that I might add did not take part in attacking him for just trying to direct traffic to his site).  About the only thing he could have done with equal controversy would be to start a topic about the DOH or the GL.  It's the two areas that comprise the Charger world answer to politics and religion.

Boy aint that the truth Ghoste!  Whats your real name anyways?

Paul Gilles here 

[Ghoste]

Yes, I do hide behind a username and I don't have to tell anyone why.  My reasons are personal but it isn't out of fear of Jerry Sutherland.  Not likely to be guilted into either.  For the same reason I don't have a public link to my personal e-mail in my profile.
And no, I'm not in the mafia or witness protection or anything like that.

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Yes, I do hide behind a username and I don't have to tell anyone why.  My reasons are personal but it isn't out of fear of Jerry Sutherland.  Not likely to be guilted into either.  For the same reason I don't have a public link to my personal e-mail in my profile.
And no, I'm not in the mafia or witness protection or anything like that.

Hmmm...

[68X426]

I don't have to tell anyone why. 

Jimmy Hoffa!

[68blue]

I guess that's goodbye.

[RD]

dont let the actions of the few dissuade you from further participation.  we all have learning curves in the "forum" world.  I went through mine, just like everyone else has done either here or another forum.

[ramit]

And what's the deal with that 4 door they call a charger anyways?     

[General_01]

Sounds like the kid who would go home with the football because you tackled him too hard.

[RD]

Sounds like the kid who would go home with the football because you tackled him too hard.

why do you insist on badgering this dude... just let it go.   you keep adding fuel to the fire.. you understand that right.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but saying nothing just ensure's the same outcome.

So I am saying something now.  Your petty bickering and bantering now is only going to make things worse.  It is time that you stepped up to the plate and became the better person and just let this dead dog lie.

[Darkman]

Sounds like the kid who would go home with the football because you tackled him too hard.

why do you insist on badgering this dude... just let it go.   you keep adding fuel to the fire.. you understand that right.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but saying nothing just ensure's the same outcome.

So I am saying something now.  Your petty bickering and bantering now is only going to make things worse.  It is time that you stepped up to the plate and became the better person and just let this dead dog lie.

 

[A383Wing]

[fireguyfire]

Looking at the forest instead of the trees, I can't see how running Mopar guys off benefits this site; surely it's ok for members of the same brotherhood to have different opinions without digressing to mud slinging?
I have seen the same thing happen on other, unrelated sites and it never ceases to amaze me.
This guy is benefitting from guys going to his site to read his articles, but they seem to be 100% car related, and you have to willingly want to go there if you want to read the article. I dunno, to me it seems kinda like shooting a gopher with a bazooka.

[68X426]

kinda like shooting a gopher with a bazooka.

I thought it was the other way around.

[Darkman]

   Classic

[Highbanked Hauler]

What he said, but I am sure I'll find out

[fireguyfire]

Went back and read all of "Mystarcollectorcar"'s threads to see how evil he really was. Perhaps one of the moderators could weigh in on this one and clarify what linking behaviour are acceptable, and which are not. To me , what this guy was doing is no different than the guy that says "check out my awesome 69 Charger burnout!" and has a link to you tube. At this point I cant either a) click the link and go there and watch the clip, or b) take a pass and move on to the next thread; either which way I am making a choice, not being forced to do anything. Again, just wondering if this warrant runnng fellow Mopar/Charger guys from this site. To me it's still a mole hill.

[chargergirl]

Don't shoot the dog!

[bull]

Went back and read all of "Mystarcollectorcar"'s threads to see how evil he really was. Perhaps one of the moderators could weigh in on this one and clarify what linking behaviour are acceptable, and which are not. To me , what this guy was doing is no different than the guy that says "check out my awesome 69 Charger burnout!" and has a link to you tube. At this point I cant either a) click the link and go there and watch the clip, or b) take a pass and move on to the next thread; either which way I am making a choice, not being forced to do anything. Again, just wondering if this warrant runnng fellow Mopar/Charger guys from this site. To me it's still a mole hill.

Nobody "ran him off" IMO, if that's what you're thinking. Sometimes people come here (just like anywhere) under false pretenses, sporting an attitude, pushing agendas, whatever, and get smacked around until they either leave or straighten up. Ask Cody (69bronzeT5) how it went when he first showed up here. He got the smackdown but chose to be honest, stick to it and prove himself. Nobody gets ran off but some choose to leave. This guy apparently could stand the heat he himself had generated.

[RD]

I disagree bull, he didnt create the heat, but it was applied to him.  he reacted in a defensive way when it seemed many believed the same towards calling him names and chastising him.

it was not until others starting support him that a fine balance was achieved.

[Todd Wilson]

 

[moparstuart]

[68X426]

he didnt create the heat

SPAM is SPAM is SPAM is SPAM is SPAM. He created the SPAM and he delivered the SPAM.

He may very well be a saint in his personal life. His website may very well be the finest contribution to the advancement of mankind since the printing press was invented. 

It is his motives and agenda that are abusive. No one is abused when somebody posts a link to a Charger vid. We are all abused when he shoves his commercial agenda on the reader. We are bombed with commercial crap all day long. I for one didn't need more of it at this great forum.

Do you think he allowed spammers and pirates to post commercial agenda messages on his website? No way; so he was held accountable here and then he left.

To his credit his last few posts left out the agenda crap. Then he decided to exit. I was pleased with the first, neutral on the second. In the big scheme of life, none of this matters. I got a laugh out of the pillow fight icon. 

[68X426]

One last thing, let's get back to talking about MOPAR

[General_01]

I disagree bull, he didnt create the heat, but it was applied to him.  he reacted in a defensive way when it seemed many believed the same towards calling him names and chastising him.

it was not until others starting support him that a fine balance was achieved.

He was wrong. He was called on it. Others, including myself, politely suggested he refrain from posting the results of a race in the title of a thread so that others that maybe taped it did not have the ending ruined for them. He said we were not true Nascar fans because we did not watch it live. His indifference and throwing the blame back at others is what prompted the name-calling. Yes, it may be wrong, but we tried the "light feather" approach. This guy needed to be hit with a hammer. So I did. He left because he wanted to. Nobody "chased" him off the site.

[RD]

well, if someone dont like it, dont click on it. if they dont click on it, it wont hurt them.

it did not bother me one way or the other.  I was never forced to open his threads, and neither is anyone else.  I do not know how it is affecting people so personally.  its a choice to click on it.

if troy didnt tell him to stop, who gives anyone else the authority to judge his posts as not being appropriate for this site?

lets leave what should and should not be on this site up to the troy and the site's moderators shall we?  

[RD]

He was wrong. He was called on it. Others, including myself, politely suggested he refrain from posting the results of a race in the title of a thread so that others that maybe taped it did not have the ending ruined for them. He said we were not true Nascar fans because we did not watch it live. His indifference and throwing the blame back at others is what prompted the name-calling. Yes, it may be wrong, but we tried the "light feather" approach. This guy needed to be hit with a hammer. So I did. He left because he wanted to. Nobody "chased" him off the site.

no offense mate, but you are just as wrong since he did not say anything about true nascar fans until you called him a dumbass.  if light feather approach means calling people vulgar names, I would hate to see your "heavy-feather" approach.

I am not saying his smart ass comments back to you were appropriate, I am saying that you started the proverbial snow ball down hill when you did your smart ass comment first.  He apologized before your statement, but you took it personally and called him a dumbass.  You are saying he is bad, well then you are just as guilty.

[General_01]

I didn't consider that an apology. I guess I will just disagree with you and call it good unless you want to keep this going. Up to you.

[69bronzeT5]

Ask Cody (69bronzeT5) how it went when he first showed up here. He got the smackdown but chose to be honest, stick to it and prove himself. Nobody gets ran off but some choose to leave. This guy apparently could stand the heat he himself had generated.

I'm still here

[RD]

I didn't consider that an apology. I guess I will just disagree with you and call it good unless you want to keep this going. Up to you.

nope not really, i just reply when you do.

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edit:

only replies to general when he decides to partake in a means to justify his wrongness in regards to the aforementioned topics of discussion.

[ramit]

well, if someone dont like it, dont click on it. if they dont click on it, it wont hurt them.

it did not bother me one way or the other.  I was never forced to open his threads, and neither is anyone else.  I do not know how it is affecting people so personally.  its a choice to click on it.

The problem was the fact that nobody had to open that thread for it to hurt them.   He posted the winner in the title!

[69bronzeT5]

well, if someone dont like it, dont click on it. if they dont click on it, it wont hurt them.

it did not bother me one way or the other.  I was never forced to open his threads, and neither is anyone else.  I do not know how it is affecting people so personally.  its a choice to click on it.

The problem was the fact that nobody had to open that thread for it to hurt them.   He posted the winner in the title!

That's not the issue I see with that thread- it's the comments he made AFTER in the thread. Mainly regarding "real Nascar fans" and recording races.

[1969chargerrtse]

One last thing, let's get back to talking about MOPAR

I find it so hard to read your post because that picure of the dog holding PART of a rabbits head freaks me out. 

[Chris G.]

Good gawd. I will post Nascar, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, World Series, NBA Champs, etc etc...Immediately after they happen.

Go cry to mama if you don't like it. Too many cry babies around here.

ps- This is a spoiler...The Saints won the Super Bowl. Hope that didn't bust your remote.

[A383Wing]

Darth Vader is Luke's father....  

[TUFCAT]

Damn....I get so pissed when I miss all the good drama that happens on our site!!!  

Can somebody please send a PM alerting me when this "high drama" is happening?

Thanks in advance!  

TUFFY  

[bobs66440]

Darth Vader is Luke father.... 

WHAT!!!!???  NO WAY!!

[A383Wing]

Can somebody please send a PM alerting me when this "high drama" is happening?

If we all did that, yer PM box would be full in about 5 minutes

[bobs66440]

Can somebody please send a PM alerting me when this "high drama" is happening?

If we all did that, yer PM box would be full in about 5 minutes

[ramit]

Good gawd. I will post Nascar, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, World Series, NBA Champs, etc etc...Immediately after they happen.

Go cry to mama if you don't like it. Too many cry babies around here.

ps- This is a spoiler...The Saints won the Super Bowl. Hope that didn't bust your remote.

I just love being called a crybaby when all I was doing is looking for a little courtesy.   Go ahead and post away!

ps- The Saints didn't "win" the Superbowl   The Vikings shot themselves in the foot and lost the superbowl!   

[General_01]

Just testing to see if RD is still posting after I do.

[RD]

Good gawd. I will post Nascar, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, World Series, NBA Champs, etc etc...Immediately after they happen.

Go cry to mama if you don't like it. Too many cry babies around here.

ps- This is a spoiler...The Saints won the Super Bowl. Hope that didn't bust your remote.

I just love being called a crybaby when all I was doing is looking for a little courtesy.   Go ahead and post away!

ps- The Saints didn't "win" the Superbowl   The Vikings shot themselves in the foot and lost the superbowl!   

i think your request is asking the majority to curtail to the minority.. just aint gonna happen, not enough people give a shit whether you tape a program or not to be honest.  not being hateful, just stating the obvious.

and general, your instigation knows no bounds.

[General_01]

Only for those that I really, really like RD.

[RD]

Only for those that I really, really like RD.

well i am married to a female, very heterosexual, and i dont roll that way homeboy!     

[A383Wing]

Only for those that I really, really like RD.

well i am married to a female, very heterosexual, and i dont roll that way homeboy!     

Good cover!   

[ramit]

I am starting to think RD is going to post everytime I post also....Let's see what happens.

[68X426]

One last thing, let's get back to talking about MOPAR

I find it so hard to read your post because that picure of the dog holding PART of a rabbits head freaks me out.  

I'll be changing it soon. What else freaks you out, so I can be on the lookout.


Edit: done. 

[ramit]

Nice pic!!! I love it!!!  LOL   

[69charger2002]

this is one jacked up thread...   

[khodne]

This has board has been a great source of knowledge and information to myself and many others.  I don't see the need to dwell upon such petty posts as this "goodbye" that started as an apology and ended up as slam to the board.   I don't post very much but I enjoy reading and seeing the mutual admiration that we all seem to have of the Charger. 

[elacruze]

This has board has been a great source of knowledge and information to myself and many others.  I don't see the need to dwell upon such petty posts as this "goodbye" that started as an apology and ended up as slam to the board.   I don't post very much but I enjoy reading and seeing the mutual admiration that we all seem to have of the Charger. 

Aye, we've gone well past dwelling and right into