4 speed or not?

[rattlehead_74]

hey guys ..i was looking the dodge over earlier and started inspecting the 4 speed hump ,,it kind of looks like it may have been installed by someone?or did the factory just kind of slap them things in there if they were optioned?..im not seeing any type of factory spot welds..and from the under side it looks like a crude cut out where the hump is located..so i guess what im asking ..without a fender tag to know for sure..is there any tell tale signs weather or not this is a true original four speed hump ? there looks to be  a couple of cut off brackets further back on the drive line tunnel for the center counsole supports?? but that could be 4sp or auto i guess ???stumped    help   please....thanks 

[elacruze]

The factory was seriously challenged on the hump prep. On my original '68 R/T, the hump was welded on with welds about 6" apart and about 1" long, and looked like chicken poop. The hole underneath looked like it was cut by an 8 year old with a sawzall-they actually cut away a little bit of the edge of the crossmember at the rear of the hole, like they used it for a blade guide. I'd say that if it looks like a total hack job, it's more likely original. 

On my current car, I cut the hole exactly as it was on the original. I laid it out with cardboard and measured carefully. It was painful to make it look so shaggy.

[rattlehead_74]

Thank You   elacruze    any brackets under the dash  to tell if there was a clutch assy.there?

[Rolling_Thunder]

there will be two holes drilled to the fender side of the master cylinder for a support bracket if it was a 4-speed car -