Offered asking price for my Charger from guy in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil-Scam?

[73TXRallye440]

Ok, thought id post here to see if anyone else has sold their car to an international buyer.

I received an email from a guy in Rio Monday regarding my charger. He offered me full price. Leary, I asked him to call me. Well, he did, and it was tough conversating but he agreed to send me a deposit to show his seriousness. (Should be here today)

What steps should I take to sell internationally? I told him he is responsible for all shipping, exporting, etc and payment must be made in full US Funds before it leaves my garage.

[69DodgeCharger]

Ok, thought id post here to see if anyone else has sold their car to an international buyer.

I received an email from a guy in Rio Monday regarding my charger. He offered me full price. Leary, I asked him to call me. Well, he did, and it was tough conversating but he agreed to send me a deposit to show his seriousness. (Should be here today)

What steps should I take to sell internationally? I told him he is responsible for all shipping, exporting, etc and payment must be made in full US Funds before it leaves my garage.

I would only accept verifed electronically deposited funds in full for payment. A good bank can set this up and it protects both the buyer and seller. They will charge you a fee for this of course but it's probably well worth it. Assuming this guy is a legitimate buyer.

[histoy]

I agree with the electronic transfer of funds.  It's safe, and the cost isn't really that high.

[73TXRallye440]

thanks for the input.

An international evenlope came today full of 20 $100 bills- found that quite odd but I guess he is serious. I have setup a special account at my bank today for this specific transaction and given him wiring info- we shall see if he is real- i will keep you posted.

[A383Wing]

Have the bills checked to make sure they are real

[69DodgeCharger]

I'd make sure your bank checks those bills with a pen just to be safe, although the buyer seems pretty serious if he was willing to send that much cash in a package.

[73TXRallye440]

my bank tested then two different ways, they were real.

[elacruze]

my bank tested then two different ways, they were real.

Cash is King!

When I worked in Miami, I knew a lot of Brazilians. To us, they are a strange lot-but plenty of them have a LOT of money.
Personally, I'd see if I could set up the electronic transfer for the balance, for his protection more than yours.
Most of them are a little more friendly that I am comfortable with, actually.
My experience is also that once you establish a relationship, you can count on more business coming your way-if he has friends looking for cars and you hook them up, you'll be compensated.
We did a lot of international business with South America, and I don't recall ever having a fraudulent transaction with a Brazilian. We had plenty with everybody else. YMMV.

[Nacho-RT74]

amazed how you can get cash by mail!

[472 R/T SE]

The buyer is lucky you're a straight up individual cause there's lots of thief sellers' & post office workers'.

I've sold a handful of rigs overseas.  Always went the bank transfer route, painless.

[g-man70]

I recently sold a car overseas. I had 10% wired to my bank account. That took about 7 days and cost me $15 for the wire fee. Luckily my bank receives wired funds through Wells Fargo so I didn't have to share my full bank account info with the buyer. The buyer then had to wire the remainder of the payment and shipping fees to the shipping company. The shipping company then had a cashiers check made out to me from their bank. The shipping company will be here this week with the cashiers check to pick up the car. I plan to call the bank listed on the cashiers check for verification before letting them take the car. It has taken a little longer than expected, but so far everything has been smooth.

[GL#10]

I recently sold a car overseas. I had 10% wired to my bank account. That took about 7 days and cost me $15 for the wire fee. Luckily my bank receives wired funds through Wells Fargo so I didn't have to share my full bank account info with the buyer. The buyer then had to wire the remainder of the payment and shipping fees to the shipping company. The shipping company then had a cashiers check made out to me from their bank. The shipping company will be here this week with the cashiers check to pick up the car. I plan to call the bank listed on the cashiers check for verification before letting them take the car. It has taken a little longer than expected, but so far everything has been smooth.

Hey

A bank  wire  from overseas  usually takes 24hrs  ,  7 days  wow  ,  why is he not sending you the full payment for the car to you , why is it going to the shipping company  ??  sounds like a scam ??.

K.c

[twodko]

Huge red flag dude.

Tom

[g-man70]

Hey

A bank  wire  from overseas  usually takes 24hrs  ,  7 days  wow  ,  why is he not sending you the full payment for the car to you , why is it going to the shipping company  ??  sounds like a scam ??.

K.c

It was definitely longer than 24 hours. Maybe it depends on the country? The cashiers check will be from a US bank and I will be able to call and verify the check before handing over the car. That was agreed upon with the buyer. I probably could have pushed for full payment, but as long as I was given the opportunity to verify the cashiers check I was okay with the agreement.

[472 R/T SE]

I recently sold a car overseas. I had 10% wired to my bank account. That took about 7 days and cost me $15 for the wire fee. Luckily my bank receives wired funds through Wells Fargo so I didn't have to share my full bank account info with the buyer. The buyer then had to wire the remainder of the payment and shipping fees to the shipping company. The shipping company then had a cashiers check made out to me from their bank. The shipping company will be here this week with the cashiers check to pick up the car. I plan to call the bank listed on the cashiers check for verification before letting them take the car. It has taken a little longer than expected, but so far everything has been smooth.

As I was reading this I kept glancing towards the bottom for a "LOL" or you saying you were being sarcastic.

A fake cashiers check can have any phone number listed.  Let's see, the shipping company tells whoever's at the listed phone number what time he plans on showing up with said check so this other person knows to answer the phone, "Bank of America" or whatever bank it is.  So who thought this all up?  The buyer?

I'm sorry but there's no way I would have went this route.  Good luck regardless.

[g-man70]

As I was reading this I kept glancing towards the bottom for a "LOL" or you saying you were being sarcastic.

A fake cashiers check can have any phone number listed.  Let's see, the shipping company tells whoever's at the listed phone number what time he plans on showing up with said check so this other person knows to answer the phone, "Bank of America" or whatever bank it is.  So who thought this all up?  The buyer?

I'm sorry but there's no way I would have went this route.  Good luck regardless.

My opinion is that a cashiers check from a U.S. bank is safer than giving someone overseas my bank account information. A cashiers check can in fact be verified by your bank. I am not suggesting he go this route, I am simply sharing my experience. I should have waited until my transaction was completed though. The buyer hired a US shipping company, http://www.keransanddaly.com, whom I've called a few times and am 100% confident I am not being scammed. He had to wire the remainder of the payment to them. I will update this thread when my transaction is complete with the results.

73TXRallye440, you'll want to call your bank to see what information you'll need provide to receive wired funds. Some banks have an international swift code and specific address and account information to receive wired funds. They will also ask that you trust the person you are giving this information to.

[Troy]

I just went through the process. The overseas wire transfer took 3 days (yes, even though it's electronic). My bank said there's no way to speed it up - at least not in their experience. They showed it as pending but not deposited. Having the account number and Swift code doesn't give someone free access to your bank account. I have taken a "bank check" from Canada in the past and things went fine there as well.

Troy

[451-74Charger]

I used to send money from England to USA all the time before i moved here.
Wire transfers can take a couple days due to verification etc.
The bank likes to "hold" the funds until they are sure the transaction has been verified by both banks.

[lisiecki1]

fwiw, my sister was involved in a situation with a cashiers check that her bank said was fine, no problems, blah blah blah.  About a week later they stated that something was wrong and she owes the bank $2000.  I'd have told her it was a scam if she'd have asked, but that's neither here nor there.  My point in posting this was that THE BANK TELLER told her everything was legit and it wasn't a problem and she still got screwed over.

Maybe the new saying should be "let the seller beware"?

[451-74Charger]

How about hold the car AND money until you are sure everything has cleared first?

[PocketThunder]

So are you getting the 440 4-speed car you talked about before now that yours is sold?

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,69490.msg779863.html#msg779863

[451-74Charger]

thanks for the input.

An international evenlope came today full of 20 $100 bills- found that quite odd but I guess he is serious. I have setup a special account at my bank today for this specific transaction and given him wiring info- we shall see if he is real- i will keep you posted.

do we have an update? 

[1BAD68]

fwiw, my sister was involved in a situation with a cashiers check that her bank said was fine, no problems, blah blah blah.  About a week later they stated that something was wrong and she owes the bank $2000.  I'd have told her it was a scam if she'd have asked, but that's neither here nor there.  My point in posting this was that THE BANK TELLER told her everything was legit and it wasn't a problem and she still got screwed over.

Maybe the new saying should be "let the seller beware"?

Thats what I saw on a show like Dateline or something.
It takes around 7 days for a international cashiers check to 100% be verified and clear.
If it was me, I would not sell a vehicle overseas, too much trouble when there are buyers right here in the US.

[Rolling_Thunder]

fwiw, my sister was involved in a situation with a cashiers check that her bank said was fine, no problems, blah blah blah.  About a week later they stated that something was wrong and she owes the bank $2000.  I'd have told her it was a scam if she'd have asked, but that's neither here nor there.  My point in posting this was that THE BANK TELLER told her everything was legit and it wasn't a problem and she still got screwed over.

Maybe the new saying should be "let the seller beware"?

Thats what I saw on a show like Dateline or something.
It takes around 7 days for a international cashiers check to 100% be verified and clear.
If it was me, I would not sell a vehicle overseas, too much trouble when there are buyers right here in the US.

overseas buyers pay a lot more than US buyers...      when I first had my charger...     US price offered = $12,000    AUS price offered = $20,000