Anyone near Royal Oak MI. that could look at a car for me?

[bakerhillpins]

I am interested in a Charger in Royal Oak MI, north of Detroit and was wondering if I might be able to get someone to look at it for me for some compensation?

I have been actively exchanging emails trying to get as much information about the car as I can (limited text and no pics) so its not a definite thing yet. I figured rather than try to rush this at the end I would see if anyone might be able to help me.

Thanks
Bryan

[PocketThunder]

Detroit area guys that i know of off the top of my head:

Hemi-hampton  http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=2347
4cruzin http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=139
69*F5*SE http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=6315

[bakerhillpins]

Paul

Thanks for the heads up. Not sure I want to just PM these guys blind, they don't know me from uncle. Personally, I wouldn't care but I don't like to assume that everyone operates like me.

Bryan

[bakerhillpins]

Crud, I don't think this guy is eager to sell over the net. He asked for me to call him Monday to answer the rest of my questions. Apparently he has a guy stopping by on Sunday to look at the car.   

[hemi-hampton]

I'm only about 3 miles from Royal Oak. Woodward road & dream cruise runs right threw Royal oak starting at 8 mile rd. & Woodward. I'm 3 miles east of that at 8 mile rd. & Ryan rd. I could check it out for you. What State are you from? LEON.

[TUFCAT]

I could also look at it (with Leon of course). He's a friend and an excellent resource. Between the two of us (putting our heads together), surely we won't miss much. 

[TUFCAT]

I could also look at it -with Leon of course. He's a friend and an excellent resource. Between the two of us putting our heads together, surely we won't miss much.  

I met (4CRUZIN) at Bo's Blarney Stone Bar (BMOPARMOFO) on Woodward who's been kind enough to host our motley crew during the Woodward Dream Cruise season the past few years   .  Also don't forget about (SPIKE) who owns a 1970 Charger R/T, and like you said (69*F5*SE) - who lives pretty close on the east side near Woodward and the Royal Oak area . My good buddy (WINGR) lives in Livonia with a beautiful 1969 Charger 500! For later 1971-72 models, my buddy Bob is one the best all around guys for 3rd gen cars. (1972RALLYE)

I apologize if I missed any of the other metro Detroit members who deserved to be mentioned, but please (if I forgot anyone) please add yourselves to this post if you can help another brother in his search.  

Best of luck, TUFFY.  

[bakerhillpins]

I'm only about 3 miles from Royal Oak. Woodward road & dream cruise runs right threw Royal oak starting at 8 mile rd. & Woodward. I'm 3 miles east of that at 8 mile rd. & Ryan rd. I could check it out for you. What State are you from? LEON.

I could also look at it (with Leon of course). He's a friend and an excellent resource. Between the two of us (putting our heads together), surely we won't miss much. 

I'm in NH. On the western edge anyhow, not that my exact location in NH really makes much diff.

That would be completely cool! You guys have a PM

[Ghoste]

Having family in Ferndale and Royal Oak and living within the television broadcast zone I consider myself to be an honorary member of the generally far reaches of Metro Detroit.      

[TUFCAT]

Having family in Ferndale and Royal Oak and living within the television broadcast zone I consider myself to be an honorary member of the generally far reaches of Metro Detroit.      

Uh Oh....I better get those cold beers ready that I owe to Ghoste~ 

[69DodgeCharger]

It's not charger-jeff selling that car is it? If anybody remembers that name from the past.

[Ghoste]

Distantly remember him, but I thought he was in Dearborn?

[Ghoste]

Having family in Ferndale and Royal Oak and living within the television broadcast zone I consider myself to be an honorary member of the generally far reaches of Metro Detroit.      

Uh Oh....I better get those cold beers ready that I owe to Ghoste~ 

Next time I'm headed to Ypsilanti. (whenever that will be) 

[motorcitydak]

  Not very far from me either, lemme know. I have a rather busy schedule but may be able to help

[bakerhillpins]

Not very far from me either, lemme know. I have a rather busy schedule but may be able to help

Thanks for the offer!! 
hemi-hamption and TUFCAT are lending a helping hand at the moment but Ill let you know if something comes up. 

It's not charger-jeff selling that car is it? If anybody remembers that name from the past.

The gentleman signs his emails with Al. Maybe related? 

[69DodgeCharger]

Distantly remember him, but I thought he was in Dearborn?

Harrison Township? Mt. Clemens area if I remember right?

[bmoparmofo]

Good deal, Tuffcat and Hemi are both good guys to have to check it out.Glad you found a couple of members to look at it for you. I wonder if its one I have seen around here? Keep us posted.    Dreamcruise will be here before we know it. 

[69*F5*SE]

Yeah, I'm not too far from Royal Oak. 20 miles or so (guesstimate).  I'm in Roseville.  I live right around the corner from the old Creative Industries building if that gives you a clue.  Glad to see you got some guys go to check the car out for you.  I know Leon and you can trust his judgement and I'm certain TUFCAT has a good level of knowledge as well  .  Post some pics when you get some.  Good luck.      Ted

[TUFCAT]

Hi Gang,

Well it didn't work out for us to get a look at the Charger this weekend.  Bryan (bakerhillpins) rallied the troops together with myself and Leon "hemi-hampton" to inspect the car on Saturday afternoon.  Unfortunately the seller wasn't available to accommodate us until very late in the evening on Saturday - so we decided to hold back and regroup.  Hopefully arrangements can be made to look at the car sometime next weekend if its "meant to be" .

The good news is that Bryan was able to get some more detailed info on the phone about the cars condition. Why don't people list more info and some decent pictures on Craigslist ads  Obviously it seems they either don't spend time to make the ad, or can't communicate well enough?  Anyway back on subject, Bryan has a great attitude about finding the right car at the right price ...and I'm sure he'll make a very good purchase decision when the time comes on the right car.  Not rushing into anything is key, and Leon and I will certainly do our best to make sure our new pal in New Hampshire doesn't get burned when the time comes.  
 

[4cruzin]

Sorry it didn't work out  . . . yep I would always help out when I can.   

[bakerhillpins]

Hi Gang,

Well it didn't work out for us to get a look at the Charger this weekend.  Bryan (bakerhillpins) rallied the troops together with myself and Leon "hemi-hampton" to inspect the car on Saturday afternoon.  Unfortunately the seller wasn't available to accommodate us until very late in the evening on Saturday - so we decided to hold back and regroup.  Hopefully arrangements can be made to look at the car sometime next weekend if its "meant to be" .

The good news is that Bryan was able to get some more detailed info on the phone about the cars condition. Why don't people list more info and some decent pictures on Craigslist ads  Obviously it seems they either don't spend time to make the ad, or can't communicate well enough?  Anyway back on subject, Bryan has a great attitude about finding the right car at the right price ...and I'm sure he'll make a very good purchase decision when the time comes on the right car.  Not rushing into anything is key, and Leon and I will certainly do our best to make sure our new pal in New Hampshire doesn't get burned when the time comes.  
 

I can't say how much I appreciate the fact that so many on this board are willing to spend their valuable free time helping someone else out. It is truly amazing and something you just don't see every day!  I am hoping for the best but let me tell you how hard it is to keep a level head about this stuff! 

Sorry it didn't work out  . . . yep I would always help out when I can.   

All is not lost yet. Couldn't get the stars aligned this weekend but an attempt to inspect it this weekend is in the plans. As long as the car is still for sale anyhow.

[hemi-hampton]

Finally got a look at this thing Yesterday. One of those that looks good from 20 feet away but not close up if your a nit picker. LEON.

[TUFCAT]

Finally got a look at this thing Yesterday. One of those that looks good from 20 feet away but not close up if your a nit picker. LEON.

I was gone all day and just got back to see these pictures. 

Like you said, from 20 feet, it probably looks great!! In fact it looks nice in pictures. Unfortunately, we know how pictures can be.

I'm sure you've already given Bryan your report...so when I get a free moment I'll give you or Bryan a call just to find out the details - and protect the innocent sort of speak. hee hee. Sometime the seller has higher ambitions than the should   . Anyway, (like you've already done). its probably better to keep the details private when the car is still for sale. Thanks for doing this on a solo basis,  I'm sorry I couldn't be there with ya...!  

[TUFCAT]

Leon and Bryan, I just logged into my email and saw Leon's pictures.  I think he captured all the "Kodak Moments"! I don't want to say anything subjective online about what I saw in the pics unless I can tell you guys in person. Leon nailed the details. His years of experience in mopars was shown....and it pays off to have him inspect your car.  He did very well in capturing all the details.  

[bakerhillpins]

Huge thanks go out to Leon for inspecting the car and Tom for helping me with this. You guys are da bomb.    

Unfortunately the car is not for me. I wish it was though.. it has an awesome fender tag!

a5 b4 h7 u1
A1 P6 R1 S1 T7 X1
25, 30, 78
A4, X8

TRM - C6C
PNT - QQ1
UBS - W  (This decodes to what exactly??) Can't figure it out from http://www.jimshine.com/tag%20info/68tagdecode.htm
XP29 62 3 41 C28 (not sure about the 8 )

Time for more car shopping... Might be a good excuse to make it to Carlisle.

[TUFCAT]

Damn dude, I really wish this car had a more affordable [price tag]. Obviously the owner still likes it a whole lot!  

I would be very proud of this ride (if it was mine and restored!!!).  I agree with you - - this could be a sweet Charger if bought right ....{edit} and restored right!  

[hemi-hampton]

If restored right first time around this would be a nice car. Unfortunately that was not done. Just happens I know the body shop that did the resto & only thing that comes to mind is BK

[TUFCAT]

You mean if Restored right

YEP!!!  ...and theres a BIG difference when it comes to selling. .

[bakerhillpins]

Man that QQ1 with white interior is hot, its hard to say no.. like crack! 

Leon - Did he mention if the car was a #s car. I asked 2 times and never got an answer. The rear-end codes different than he said the car has so I suspect not.

[hemi-hampton]

I think I decoded rear as a 3:23 suregrip if I remember right. I don't like decodeing 68 tags compared to 69+ tags. He said it was (#'s matching) but I never got far enough to look since I figured not going to good so far.  Ground was wet & muddy & he was even hesitant to have me look at it in the wet weather. LEON.

[bakerhillpins]

I think I decoded rear as a 3:23 suregrip if I remember right. I don't like decodeing 68 tags compared to 69+ tags. He said it was (#'s matching) but I never got far enough to look since I figured not going to good so far.  Ground was wet & muddy & he was even hesitant to have me look at it in the wet weather. LEON.

Yea, I decoded that too but he mentioned in an email that it was a 3:55. 

[hemi-hampton]

What came in the Factory & what's in it now could easily be 2 different things, My car went from 3:23 to 4:56 to now having a 3:91 I installed. LEON.

[bakerhillpins]

What came in the Factory & what's in it now could easily be 2 different things, My car went from 3:23 to 4:56 to now having a 3:91 I installed. LEON.

I think your point is that the ratio's can easily be changed to and fro and do not make a #s car.

Ok, so the only parts of a #s (charger anyhow) car is the engine/body/trans. The physical axle itself is not stamped like the engine/trans and therefore isn't part of a #s car?

[hemi-hampton]

What came in the Factory & what's in it now could easily be 2 different things, My car went from 3:23 to 4:56 to now having a 3:91 I installed. LEON.

I think your point is that the ratio's can easily be changed to and fro and do not make a #s car.

Ok, so the only parts of a #s (charger anyhow) car is the engine/body/trans. The physical axle itself is not stamped like the engine/trans and therefore isn't part of a #s car?

I'd say that last comment is correct. Rear axle not included in #'s matching meaning housing or gears. Unless a Dana 60 gets swapped out for 8 3/4 or 7 1/4 or dana 44 who really cars. I'm sure some do & will disagree, Some want every part #'s to match including Alternator, Distributor, Carb, Radiator, Coil, Voltage Regulator, Starter relay, Starter, Plug wires, ect ect. Thats all good on 100 point showcar going for the gold. Not sure it matters on daily driver. All a matter of opinion though.  LEON.

[hemi-hampton]

The UBS-W Means upper door frame paint is white. LEON.