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resetting odometer

Started by Silver R/T, May 02, 2010, 06:20:08 PM

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Silver R/T

How do I reset odometer to 0 on 68 gauge cluster?
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Sweet T

Isn't that a little dishonest.  You want to make all the hard miles your car put in disappear like they never happen.  I don't know about that.....just thought I would start the pot stirring. ;)
No, it ain't a Hemi.....thank God!

Silver R/T

completely unrelated....I just want to reset it that way when I;m done with resto it'll have 0 on odometer. Many guys have done that
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

A383Wing

I've done it, no big deal...it's not like I'm trying to pass it off at a lower mileage...you gotta remove speedo head, take the little clippy thingy off that holds the barrel of numbers in the head and just move them all to "0" and reinstall...

It looks like a bent paper clip that just snaps over a pin

jeryst

Quote from: Silver R/T on May 02, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
completely unrelated....I just want to reset it that way when I;m done with resto it'll have 0 on odometer. Many guys have done that

Illegal, whether other guys have dont it or not.

Silver R/T

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Quote from: jeryst on May 03, 2010, 07:25:02 AM
Quote from: Silver R/T on May 02, 2010, 10:59:00 PM
completely unrelated....I just want to reset it that way when I;m done with resto it'll have 0 on odometer. Many guys have done that

Illegal, whether other guys have dont it or not.

Go ahead report me :)
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

FLG

Its not a big deal imo...how many times have these cars rolled from 100k to zero?? You have no idea unless your the only owner. Mines actually 40 mi from going back to zero, and when I put the new motor in its going back to zero again.

Chatt69chgr

It's pretty easy to reset.  Mine has 104,xxx on it.  I'll probably leave it that way when I get the car restored----I'm doing a complete resto including 440 drivetrain replacing 318 drivetrain.  The speedo will then tell me how many miles the old girl has on her since birth.  I can always subtract the 4K to indicate engine miles if I want to.

As far as the legality, I'll leave that to others to hash over. 

Musicman

When I install my new engine, tranny and rear end, I will be resetting mine back to "0" as well. That way I will know at a glance how many miles I have on my new drive train.


FLG

The only way i see it in a "bad" way is if you have some kind of origional car with XX numbers on the odometer and that mileage is known to be true and is being sold as a survivor with XX miles. But if im rebuilding my engine tranny and rear and/or am dropping in new ones, i think the odometer reading is quite irrelevant at that point.

jeryst

Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA)

The Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA) requires sellers to provide actual, truthful odometer readings and to disclose any known inaccuracies. TIMA makes odometer fraud a felony. Failure to disclose that an odometer has been changed or repaired (altered in any way) and/or falsifying mileage documentation will result in fines and/or imprisonment.



Penalties include fines and imprisonment. Just for anyones information. You can have any reason you want, but it's still a federal felony to do so. and it also carries additional penalties at the state level as well. Some of them are very harsh. Just depends which state you live in. Some states have certain exemptions for older vehicles, but that varies as well.


Musicman

Quote from: jeryst on May 03, 2010, 05:48:36 PM
Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA)

The Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA) requires sellers to provide actual, truthful odometer readings and to disclose any known inaccuracies. TIMA makes odometer fraud a felony. Failure to disclose that an odometer has been changed or repaired (altered in any way) and/or falsifying mileage documentation will result in fines and/or imprisonment.


Your not guilty of anything as long as you don't hide the facts from the buyer.


Silver R/T

Nobody's selling anything. I'll have the car till I'm alive
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

A383Wing

Quote from: jeryst on May 03, 2010, 05:48:36 PM
Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA)

The Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA) requires sellers to provide actual, truthful odometer readings and to disclose any known inaccuracies. TIMA makes odometer fraud a felony. Failure to disclose that an odometer has been changed or repaired (altered in any way) and/or falsifying mileage documentation will result in fines and/or imprisonment.



Penalties include fines and imprisonment. Just for anyones information. You can have any reason you want, but it's still a federal felony to do so. and it also carries additional penalties at the state level as well. Some of them are very harsh. Just depends which state you live in. Some states have certain exemptions for older vehicles, but that varies as well.



This is only true for cars 10 years & older here...after that, no odometer readings are taken at DMV

Rolling_Thunder

the speedo is easily turned back - once you get it apart it makes total sense...    be careful with the small metal plates between the rollers...   they break easily
1968 Dodge Charger - 6.1L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.55 Sure Grip

2013 Dodge Challenger R/T - 5.7L Hemi / 6-speed / 3.73 Limited Slip

1964 Dodge Polara 500 - 440 / 4-speed / 3.91 Sure Grip

1973 Dodge Challenger Rallye - 340 / A-518 / 3.23 Sure Grip

jeryst

Quote from: Musicman on May 03, 2010, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: jeryst on May 03, 2010, 05:48:36 PM
Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA)

The Federal Truth in Mileage Act (TIMA) requires sellers to provide actual, truthful odometer readings and to disclose any known inaccuracies. TIMA makes odometer fraud a felony. Failure to disclose that an odometer has been changed or repaired (altered in any way) and/or falsifying mileage documentation will result in fines and/or imprisonment.


Your not guilty of anything as long as you don't hide the facts from the buyer.




True, but in PA, for example, if your odometer is not correct, you are supposed to have a notarized document stating the actual difference in mileage, and you must use that whenever you get your car inspected (if it doesnt have antique plates), so that the inspection station can record the correct mileage. Either way, you must inform anyone interested in buying your car if you ever put it up for sale.

A383Wing

Hey jeryst...just drop it fer cryin' out loud...it's his car, he can do what he wants...bet a number of members here either installed another speedometer that did not match the OE odometer reading...

Go ahead, report us all...if it makes ya feel better. Our cars are over 30 to 45 years old...there is nothing anyone can do or prove that odometer was even turned back because records were not kept back that far

I have done it on 2 of my cars....report me also....want my name & address?

Musicman

Bryan... your kill'n me  :smilielol: :smilielol: :smilielol: :lol:

Silver R/T

jeryst, I'm NOT planning on selling car and if I do sell it I will tell seller everything I've done to the car. Nobody's really concerned with mileage unless it was a number matching survivor with low miles. Most of us are here to enjoy car not really counting miles
http://www.cardomain.com/id/mitmaks

1968 silver/black/red striped R/T
My Charger is hybrid, it runs on gas and on tears of ricers
2001 Ram 2500 CTD
1993 Mazda MX-3 GS SE
1995 Ford Cobra SVT#2722

Musicman


Brock Lee

The information of rolling the odometer back comes in handy for other purposes as well. My speedometer went bad so I bought another cluster to replace it. I was able to adjust the odometer using the same method to match the mileage of the one I took out.

Cooter

Well, My odometer has been rolled back to "0", I own a 1970 Charger 383 "SE", Auto, car, that has been converted to a straight drive, converted over to 8 3/4 rear, has 1968 Pass. Side Fender, 1968 Hood, 1969 Left Front fender, 2002 Right Rear Quarter panel, And the VIN number on the dash as well as the entire dash frame comes back to a 1969 Dodge Charger with a 318/904/non 8 3/4 rear car, and I think the Data plate came off a 1970 Cuda...Oh, and it's been painted orange with a BIG "01" on the doors......They gonna bury me under the jail...
" I have spent thousands of dollars and countless hours researching what works and what doesn't and I'm willing to share"

jeryst

Quote from: A383Wing on May 05, 2010, 08:00:25 PM
Hey jeryst...just drop it fer cryin' out loud...it's his car, he can do what he wants...bet a number of members here either installed another speedometer that did not match the OE odometer reading...

Go ahead, report us all...if it makes ya feel better. Our cars are over 30 to 45 years old...there is nothing anyone can do or prove that odometer was even turned back because records were not kept back that far

I have done it on 2 of my cars....report me also....want my name & address?


Why get belligerent with me just because I'm trying to convey some information? Or do you do that with everyone that doesnt share your own little view of the world?  I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm just saying what the law is. I'm allowed to do that. Last time I checked, this was supposed to be a forum where everyone can express their views. I could give a shit what you or anyone else does with your cars. I'm just saying that there are laws, and there are penalties, and anyone that does it should think about the consequences. I know a guy that got arrested for it, and it cost him a lot of money by the time it was all over with, and he wound up with a police record to boot. Luckily, he didnt get any jail time, but it affected him in other ways (probation, firearm ownership, job huntng, etc). True, he did it for monetary gain, but sometimes the reason doesnt matter. For example, the law doesnt care if you rob a bank because you want a new car, or you did it because you got 3 starving kids that need to eat, you are still going to jail if you do it.

Tilar

Actually, if you check your local laws, They more than likely have a provision in there that if the car is totally rebuilt that you CAN reset the odometer to zero to reflect the true mileage since nothing mechanically on the car has any miles on it. I know that in Texas it is/was that way.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



Darkman

The odometer gives you a reading of the miles the vehicle has done from production. It gives you and/or buyers an indication of the condition the parts are in (from factory). If you replace any part of the drivetrain/suspension etc, the odometer reading does not really make any difference then does it as the parts are no longer original. If a tranny has been replaced with a 2nd hand one, how many miles has it done? How do I factor that into the current odometer reading?

I would only ever reset the odometer if the drivetrain, suspension and brake components were completely replaced with all new items at the same time. Then and only then will you have a "new" car in the true sense.

But if you are not going to sell the car, and you want to track how many miles your engine and tranny replacement has done or how many miles your new suspension has done then it is up to you.

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