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silly new guy question - 68-70 almost the same?

Started by BB73Challenger, April 20, 2010, 04:39:59 PM

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BB73Challenger

OK, tried to do a search and didn't come up with much, but still learning the B-bods.

Want a '68 - the major dif I can see from the 68-69-70 would be grill, side marker lights, tail lights?
Am I close?

The car I want would be a ground up build, and if I needed to "cut & paste" to achieve that is not a problem.

Thoughts or input greatly appreciated - thanks again!  :2thumbs:

RECHRGD

You are basically correct.  The '68 grill and taillight are unique to that year.  In '69 Dodge screwed up and put a big ugly divider in the grill and put some funky elongated taillights out back.  In '70 They realized their mistake with the '69 grill and tried to correct the situation, but messed it up by wrapping the whole thing in a bunch of chrome. :lol: :lol: :nana: :nana: :nana:  Bob
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694spdRT

Various interior changes as well. Especially in 1970.
1968 Charger 383 auto
1969 Charger R/T 440 4 speed
1970 Charger 500 440 auto
1972 Challenger 318
1976 W200 Club Cab 4x4 400 auto 
1978 Ramcharger 360 auto
2001 Durango SLT 4.7L (daily driver)
2005 Ram 2500 4x4 Big Horn Cummins Diesel 6 speed
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 5.7 Hemi

Mike DC

 
The 1968 and 1969 cars are genuinely almost alike except for the obvious differences.  There's a ton of little crap like the grain patterns on vinyl interior pieces, etc, but from 15 feet away there's not much to swap. 

(The various "Dukes of Hazzard" crews have always used 1968 cars just as much as 1969s.  They put 1969 grille dividers & taillights onto the 68 cars, smooth over the round '68 signal lights, and then the 1968 cars were virtually indistinguishable on camera.  They sometimes even used 1968 cars for closeup actor shots without giving it a second thought.)



The 1970 cars still looked similiar to the other two when you squint your eyes.  But this time the # of parts with major changes totalled up a much bigger percentage of the whole car.  The dashboard, the steering column, the front buckets, the entire front end sheetmetal including the fenders & hood, etc.
 


Laxy

Quote from: RECHRGD on April 20, 2010, 04:49:08 PM
You are basically correct.  The '68 grill and taillight are unique to that year.  In '69 Dodge screwed up and put a big ugly divider in the grill and put some funky elongated taillights out back.  In '70 They realized their mistake with the '69 grill and tried to correct the situation, but messed it up by wrapping the whole thing in a bunch of chrome. :lol: :lol: :nana: :nana: :nana:  Bob

That's the best quote I've ever heard!!! :rofl: :rofl:
71 Valiant VH Hardtop 265 Hemi 4-speed, 71 VH Valiant Charger R/T Replica 360 4-speed, 68 Dodge Charger 440/727.

Khyron

Quote from: RECHRGD on April 20, 2010, 04:49:08 PM
You are basically correct.  The '68 grill and taillight are unique to that year.  In '69 Dodge screwed up and put a big ugly divider in the grill and put some funky elongated taillights out back.  In '70 They realized their mistake with the '69 grill and tried to correct the situation, but messed it up by wrapping the whole thing in a bunch of chrome. :lol: :lol: :nana: :nana: :nana:  Bob

ohhhh, ohhhhhhhh, with the other thread locked I was looking for someone to go after next :nana:


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Khyron

ohh, and on 69 The fuel cap says "FUEL" on it and the 68's didn't... you see, the 68 owners weren't very bright and kept pouring the gas all over the car, putting it in the rad, in the 710 cap as well.... so the engineers figured they may have to buy a new car soon and labeled the caps accordingly.   ;)


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G-man

The dash in 68 went up on angle slightly towards the middle making a point sort of like an upside down V just not as obvious while 69/70 dash was flat.

I still wish they made the 70 tail-light on the 68

clanton

Now the 69 had some problems they fixed in 70, the 69s were train magnets.
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Khyron

Quote from: clanton on April 21, 2010, 11:32:26 AM
Now the 69 had some problems they fixed in 70, the 69s were train magnets.

lol, naaaaa, just one was a magnet.....


ohh and the door locks are in further in on the 69's and 70's ...... apparently the 68's where easy to break into so them moved the locks...

see, i put good info with the 68 digs ;)

ohhh and the 68's where 1 number shorts of a great night ;)


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BigBlackDodge

The '70 fixed all the problems with the '68's and '69's thus achieving b-body perfection! Dodge could not improve it any more and decided to start all over again with a new challenge.........the third gens... :nana:

BBD

1969chargerrtse

Man all the funny stuff here. They almost got it right. Obviously they tried hard with the 68 style and perfected it in 69. By 70 they realized they screwed up again like in 68 and just came out with a whole new stlyle that until this day still doesn't come close to the style perfection of the best designed car ever...... The famous and most loved, 1969 Dodge Charger. Thank you. Thank you.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

moparstuart

68 was the best then they broke the mold   :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

RECHRGD

I believe I recall an article back in the day that stated the "changed grill design on the 1969 Charger was inspired by the Edsel". :nana: :nana:  Bob Bitchen.
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Tilar

Quote from: moparstuart on April 21, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
68 was the best then they broke the mold   :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:

I always suspected you were the smart one of the bunch.
Dave  

God must love stupid people; He made so many.



BB73Challenger

You guys are a hoot!  :lol:

Thanks for the input  :2thumbs:

Darkman

Quote from: Khyron on April 21, 2010, 12:02:01 PM
ohhh and the 68's where 1 number shorts of a great night ;)

That's why the 68's are the best. Nothing like being in a 69 when it backfires
Make it idiot proof, and somebody will make a better idiot!

If you think Education is difficult, try being stupid!

Khyron

Quote from: moparstuart on April 21, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
they broke the mold before they made the 68   :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:

and then they fixed it for 69

fixed it for ya.


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Brock Lee

They rushed the 68 out so quick, they didn't have time time to design a set of taillights, so they used a set off a tag along trailer to get by while they actually designed a set that appeared on the 69 model year  :icon_smile_big:

Dans 68

1968 - The brunette... :drool5:

1969 - ...the blond....  :scratchchin:  :laugh:

1970 - ...and the redhead.   ;)

Now, let the disparaging remarks begin.  :icon_smile_wink:
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Blakcharger440

This is how the story went. In 68 they thought they had perfection...close but no cigar. In 69 somebody
let a monkey in the design studio and it stuck a banana in the middle of the grille,they thought it was cute
so they went with it. In 1970 the mighty muscle car gods shined down upon the Charger and thus
the ultimate musclecar was reborn......or something like that.

last426

Take it from me, those are all exactly the same (and a dime a dozen).  Get a third generation or, as the pundits say, a real Charger.  And get one with a hemi, if you find one.  Kim







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Hemidog

Everybody knows that they perfected the charger in 2006!  :stirthepot:

BigBlackDodge

Quote from: last426 on April 21, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
Take it from me, those are all exactly the same (and a dime a dozen).  Get a third generation or, as the pundits say, a real Charger.  And get one with a hemi, if you find one.  Kim












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Hey! Is that a GTO??!!!??!!


BBD :nana:

moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Long Island RT

But from the three years which had the most sales.... 69!  Let the people speak!

sorry - but in 70 the slaes dropped in half.
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Tilar

The reason there were so many sales in 69 was because the new body style of 68 caught everyone off guard. Not everyone had enough money saved up to buy a 68 so they saved up another year and bought a 69.  Better to come in second than not at all.   :poke:
Dave  

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Khyron

Quote from: Tilar on April 22, 2010, 11:30:29 AM
The reason there were so many sales in 69 was because the new body style of 68 caught everyone off guard. Not everyone had enough money saved up to buy a 68 so they saved up another year and bought a 69.  Better to come in second than not at all.   :poke:

Second place is only the First looser :nana:


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Quote from: Long Island RT on April 22, 2010, 10:03:13 AM
But from the three years which had the most sales.... 69!   Let the people speak!

sorry - but in 70 the slaes dropped in half.

If sales figures is going to be your main argument for which car looks best then I guess you have to admit that the 73 is better-looking than the 69...

Tilar

Quote from: Khyron on April 22, 2010, 11:32:51 AM
Quote from: Tilar on April 22, 2010, 11:30:29 AM
The reason there were so many sales in 69 was because the new body style of 68 caught everyone off guard. Not everyone had enough money saved up to buy a 68 so they saved up another year and bought a 69.  Better to come in second than not at all.   :poke:

Second place is only the First looser :nana:

Funny you say that because I was thinking that when I wrote "come in second".  :lol:


Quote from: bull on April 22, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
If sales figures is going to be your main argument then I guess the 73 is better-looking than the 69...

Wow, With those kind of figures for 73's, you'd think I could at least find 2 friggin fenders that were better than what I already have.
Dave  

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1969chargerrtse

Quote from: bull on April 22, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Long Island RT on April 22, 2010, 10:03:13 AM
But from the three years which had the most sales.... 69!   Let the people speak!

sorry - but in 70 the slaes dropped in half.

If sales figures is going to be your main argument for which car looks best then I guess you have to admit that the 73 is better-looking than the 69...
Yeah but there were more buyers in 73 than 69.  You need to do the math.
You sure that is correct?  I thought they made about 70-90k Chargers in 69.
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

Khyron

Quote from: bull on April 22, 2010, 03:29:59 PM

If sales figures is going to be your main argument for which car looks best then I guess you have to admit that the 73 is better-looking than the 69...


just like you to come in here and screw up our conversations with FACTS!


you should be ashamed of yourself!


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Quote from: last426 on April 21, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
Take it from me, those are all exactly the same (and a dime a dozen).  Get a third generation or, as the pundits say, a real Charger.  And get one with a hemi, if you find one.  Kim



Amen!
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Fried all the electricals two weeks after purchase
Set on fire ~twice~
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bamadukefan02

Quote from: moparstuart on April 21, 2010, 04:20:49 PM
68 was the best then they broke the mold   :icon_smile_big: :icon_smile_big:

and right after they broke the mold they drug the mold maker into the street and shot him.  The 69 obviously was the product of divine inspiration.

stripedelete

Quote from: bull on April 22, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
Quote from: Long Island RT on April 22, 2010, 10:03:13 AM
But from the three years which had the most sales.... 69!   Let the people speak!

sorry - but in 70 the slaes dropped in half.

If sales figures is going to be your main argument for which car looks best then I guess you have to admit that the 73 is better-looking than the 69...

Fleet Sales................

Mike DC

  
I'm a 69 fan, but weren't the 1968s the bestsellers of the 2nd gen?  



I had always read that it was this:


1968 --  96,000 in 1968

1969 --  85,000 (plus about 900 total aero models) in 1969

1970 --  53,000(?) in 1970.

   

Grim Jhaixus

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on April 23, 2010, 08:01:00 PM
 
I'm a 69 fan, but weren't the 1968s the bestsellers of the 2nd gen?  



I had always read that it was this:


1968 --  96,000 in 1968

1969 --  85,000 (plus about 900 total aero models) in 1969

1970 --  53,000(?) in 1970.

   
I've always heard it was 96 in 69.
"Scars" 1973 Base 318/904 Originally B5

Married on November 23rd, 2009
Fried all the electricals two weeks after purchase
Set on fire ~twice~
Overheated til it would diesel a full five minutes ~twice~

Never once didn't start, never stranded me, never once did not take me where I needed to go. Daily driver of 4+ years.

Currently undergoing 413/727 swap after I finally beat the 318 til it lost a headgasket. The kicker is the 318 still cranks and runs like nothing is wrong. I love my ca