Dont go to MUSCLE NATION in Northeast OHIO

[KillerBee1972]

Back in November my charger got in an accident. I had taken it to Muscle Nation Auto Body and Fabrication in Madison Ohio. The guy had it for 3 months and did not do any work to it. The only work that had been done is what i had done to it. A few days ago i went to go get the car out so i could work on the car myself, and he wont release the car. He says that the insurance company still owes him money. Now i am taking him to court to get the car back and the money he stole from the insurance company. He got a check for over $3400 to fix the car and the only thing he has to show that he bought for the car is fenders and a hood which are fiberglass and cost $680. This is a warning to all car enthusiast's around the NE Ohio area. Stay away from Muscle Nation in Madison Ohio!!!!

[gers1968rt]

Good luck on getting your car back, I hate thieves that hide behind a so called business.

[RD]

that stuff is between him and the insurance company, not you.  he received adequate compensation for no work done, so he can take a flying leap for all i care.  I would call the cops and get them involved to get your car back.

[billssuperbird]

it is a ohio thing. good luck on your car

[Skinypete]

Bummer Dude! Good luck on gettin your car back for the summer!

DJMIII

[greenpigs]

it is a ohio thing. good luck on your car

As if living in Ohio wasn't bad enough...one more reason my cars body work still needs done. I just can't bring myself to trust anyone. I tried it the first time & now want it done right as their are two full quarter panels that need replaced.

[KillerBee1972]

that stuff is between him and the insurance company, not you.  he received adequate compensation for no work done, so he can take a flying leap for all i care.  I would call the cops and get them involved to get your car back.

I did that night i went to get the car back, and they said they cant get involved because its a civil matter!!! 

[elacruze]

So make it a criminal matter, report the car stolen!

[KillerBee1972]

So make it a criminal matter, report the car stolen!

thats not the first time i heard that, he has witnesses seeing me work on the car though...

[RD]

have you talked to the insurance company? what do they plan on doing?

[loudmouthaussie]

http://www.musclenationaandf.com/default.html

[KillerBee1972]

http://www.musclenationaandf.com/default.html

Thats the Place!!!

[KillerBee1972]

have you talked to the insurance company? what do they plan on doing?

I talked with the insurance company and they said they already sent him a check for the  estimate he sent them, and they are not paying him a penny more!!

[Ryan]

sounds like you need to go there with as many buddys as you can and take your car out of his shop.

[Black Charger]

sounds like you need to go there with as many buddys as you can and take your car out of his shop.

Does your car run/drive? If so, I would go and get your car.   Don't do anything violent, or make physical threats against him, just jump in your car and drive it off, if possible. I can't see how the cops could do anything, since it is YOUR car.

[KillerBee1972]

sounds like you need to go there with as many buddys as you can and take your car out of his shop.

Does your car run/drive? If so, I would go and get your car.   Don't do anything violent, or make physical threats against him, just jump in your car and drive it off, if possible. I can't see how the cops could do anything, since it is YOUR car.

Yeah the car runs and drives just fine it just has no front clip, when i went there to pick up the car that friday i had a bunch of my buddies with me and just me and my parents went in the shop to get my car back. as soon as i asked for it back he ordered us outta his shop. my mom called the police and i called my lawyer. the police showed up and said that they couldnt do anything about this matter because its a civil dispute. and my lawyer said that we will have to go to court....

[69bronzeT5]

As Black Charger said, I'd just walk right in, get in the car and leave....front clip or not.

[KillerBee1972]

As Black Charger said, I'd just walk right in, get in the car and leave....front clip or not.

im not allowed to be on his property anymore...

[Troy]

sounds like you need to go there with as many buddys as you can and take your car out of his shop.

Does your car run/drive? If so, I would go and get your car.   Don't do anything violent, or make physical threats against him, just jump in your car and drive it off, if possible. I can't see how the cops could do anything, since it is YOUR car.

You know what they say about possession and ownership. Have your insurance company take care of this idiot immediately. Do not try to take the car or you'll likely get arrested. The business has rights in the eyes of the police so you are the bad guy (at least as long as your car is in their shop).

Troy

[RD]

not to rain on your parade, this guy you are dealing with is a real douche bag, but.. this is exactly why I do everything myself.  its A holes like this guy that makes me want to go postal.  Now somebody kick the soapbox out from under me

[towscum]

give me their address and phone # and email

[Highbanked Hauler]

As Black Charger said, I'd just walk right in, get in the car and leave....front clip or not.

im not allowed to be on his property anymore...

Did you sign a repair order or an authorization  of some sort?  I can only go by my experience as a body shop manager in Mass. Once you sign a repair order the car falls under a Mechanics Lien  and that gives the shop legal leverage  about releasing the car without payment but has nothing to do with quality or time. Unfortunately it doesn't help you with the quality of the repair. The Ins. Co. MAY be able to help you with a fraud situation but that is unlikely because he can say he is still working on the car. I think your lawyer is right that you will have to go to court. This situation sucks for sure when people don't live up to their word.

[RECHRGD]

I don't get it.  What is his issue if he received full payment without doing all the work.  It seems to me that he is the one that should be sued here.  There must be more to this.  Right?  What am I missing.  Bob

[Aero426]

I talked with the insurance company and they said they already sent him a check for the  estimate he sent them, and they are not paying him a penny more!!

What is the insurance companies response to the statement that "No work has been done on the car".     

[KillerBee1972]

As Black Charger said, I'd just walk right in, get in the car and leave....front clip or not.

im not allowed to be on his property anymore...

Did you sign a repair order or an authorization  of some sort?  I can only go by my experience as a body shop manager in Mass. Once you sign a repair order the car falls under a Mechanics Lien  and that gives the shop legal leverage  about releasing the car without payment but has nothing to do with quality or time. Unfortunately it doesn't help you with the quality of the repair. The Ins. Co. MAY be able to help you with a fraud situation but that is unlikely because he can say he is still working on the car. I think your lawyer is right that you will have to go to court. This situation sucks for sure when people don't live up to their word.

I did not sign any kind of papers at all!!!!!

[KillerBee1972]

I don't get it.  What is his issue if he received full payment without doing all the work.  It seems to me that he is the one that should be sued here.  There must be more to this.  Right?  What am I missing.  Bob

My lawyer is setting up a court date right now as we speak, i am taking this guy to court!!!

[KillerBee1972]

I talked with the insurance company and they said they already sent him a check for the  estimate he sent them, and they are not paying him a penny more!!

What is the insurance companies response to the statement that "No work has been done on the car".     

They just kept on saying that there is nothing that they can do now because they sent a check already to him for the original est. he is just out for more money and they know that and they wont pay him anymore...

[KillerBee1972]

give me their address and phone # and email

Why would you want that.... i dont want to cause anymore trouble.. but they do have a website....

[towscum]

we can call them 100 times a day and spam em, you wont have to do anything.