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Hmmm. Petty charger build?

Started by charger_cody, March 24, 2010, 12:16:28 PM

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charger_cody

So I was looking at some old petty charger pics today in class, and I got to thinking, "If I could EVER get enough money to buy/build a 426 Hemi, then I would totally make a petty clone out of my car." Did he ever drive a car without a 426 in it?

And how much is the big dog hemi going for nowadays?

Cody

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it later sported a 426 wedge in his charger i do recall :2thumbs:

moparstuart

just put a 440 in it and call it a 426 wedge  or  put hemi valve covers over the 440's and call it a hemi
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

Nacho-RT74

welll for a while you think and save on/for the engine, you can build the car looks. No matter the engine you have by the moment since you can have fun with the look. Then the engine like a future project

If I had a car what needs lots of parts ( specially interior ), I would make it myself
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451-74Charger

There is a very nice lady selling a 73 charger, needs a lot of work, but would make a great Petty clone.
she only wants 1000 obo for it, or its getting hauled off to the junkyard Saturday
if you want I can send your her email

charger_cody

Quote from: 451-74Charger on March 24, 2010, 12:45:46 PM
There is a very nice lady selling a 73 charger, needs a lot of work, but would make a great Petty clone.
she only wants 1000 obo for it, or its getting hauled off to the junkyard Saturday
if you want I can send your her email
Well I have a 73 already but I appreciate the offer!!!  :cheers:

Quote from: moparstuart on March 24, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
just put a 440 in it and call it a 426 wedge  or  put hemi valve covers over the 440's and call it a hemi
Valve covers don't make it a HEMI, and putting a 440 in it doesnt make it a 426 wedge.  :lol:

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 24, 2010, 12:32:26 PM
welll for a while you think and save on/for the engine, you can build the car looks. No matter the engine you have by the moment since you can have fun with the look. Then the engine like a future project

If I had a car what needs lots of parts ( specially interior ), I would make it myself
Hmm That sounds like a good idea. I think i'm going to leave it full petty blue until I am for sure I want to do it.

Cody

68X426

Quote from: charger_cody on March 24, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
Did he ever drive a car without a 426 in it?
And how much is the big dog hemi going for nowadays?

Answer: he always drove a 426 Hemi when it was available (not before 1964, not when he spent the year with Ford, and not after the Elephant was outlawed).

Answer: $15,000 to $50,000+ depending on the components. An original 426 Hemi block with modern modifications/parts, well built but not insane, is typically $20k to $25k. If you want NASCAR level insanity, then more likely over $100k.


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charger_cody

Quote from: 68X426 on March 24, 2010, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: charger_cody on March 24, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
Did he ever drive a car without a 426 in it?
And how much is the big dog hemi going for nowadays?

Answer: he always drove a 426 Hemi when it was available (not before 1964, not when he spent the year with Ford, and not after the Elephant was outlawed).

Answer: $15,000 to $50,000+ depending on the components. An original 426 Hemi block with modern modifications/parts, well built but not insane, is typically $20k to $25k. If you want NASCAR level insanity, then more likely over $100k.

Honestly 15k is not worth it to me.... What about a 426 wedge?

cody

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Quote from: 68X426 on March 24, 2010, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: charger_cody on March 24, 2010, 12:16:28 PM
Did he ever drive a car without a 426 in it?
And how much is the big dog hemi going for nowadays?

Answer: he always drove a 426 Hemi when it was available (not before 1964, not when he spent the year with Ford, and not after the Elephant was outlawed).

Answer: $15,000 to $50,000+ depending on the components. An original 426 Hemi block with modern modifications/parts, well built but not insane, is typically $20k to $25k. If you want NASCAR level insanity, then more likely over $100k.

what engines did he run when NASCAR lowered the maximum displacement allowed in the mid 70s? Was he running a small block based motor?
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moparstuart

Quote from: charger_cody on March 24, 2010, 12:55:03 PM
Quote from: 451-74Charger on March 24, 2010, 12:45:46 PM
There is a very nice lady selling a 73 charger, needs a lot of work, but would make a great Petty clone.
she only wants 1000 obo for it, or its getting hauled off to the junkyard Saturday
if you want I can send your her email
Well I have a 73 already but I appreciate the offer!!!  :cheers:

Quote from: moparstuart on March 24, 2010, 12:30:36 PM
just put a 440 in it and call it a 426 wedge  or  put hemi valve covers over the 440's and call it a hemi
Valve covers don't make it a HEMI, and putting a 440 in it doesnt make it a 426 wedge.  :lol:

Quote from: Nacho-RT74 on March 24, 2010, 12:32:26 PM
welll for a while you think and save on/for the engine, you can build the car looks. No matter the engine you have by the moment since you can have fun with the look. Then the engine like a future project

If I had a car what needs lots of parts ( specially interior ), I would make it myself
Hmm That sounds like a good idea. I think i'm going to leave it full petty blue until I am for sure I want to do it.

Cody
i was just giving you an economical solution , there are several nascar clones running around with 440's and 383's with hemi valve covers and they look pretty good
GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

sittinonready43

you dont need a hemi just a big block and your good to go .and a petty blue car  :2thumbs:

charger_cody

Quote from: sittinonready43 on March 24, 2010, 03:06:44 PM
you dont need a hemi just a big block and your good to go .and a petty blue car  :2thumbs:

Yea but I wanted a Petty clone. Wouldnt I need the motor also?

Cody

Troy

Quote from: charger_cody on March 24, 2010, 03:10:13 PM
Quote from: sittinonready43 on March 24, 2010, 03:06:44 PM
you dont need a hemi just a big block and your good to go .and a petty blue car  :2thumbs:

Yea but I wanted a Petty clone. Wouldnt I need the motor also?

Cody
Depends on how accurate you want to be. The suggestions above would get you the "look" you wanted without being totally accurate (which would cost many, many thousands of dollars). Depending on where you were most people would have no clue if it were correct or not.

Troy
Sarcasm detector, that's a real good invention.

mikesbbody


what engines did he run when NASCAR lowered the maximum displacement allowed in the mid 70s? Was he running a small block based motor?


Wasn't it 358 C.I? or am I confusing it with Today's limit?

68X426

Quote from: charger_cody on March 24, 2010, 03:10:13 PM
Wouldnt I need the motor also?

If you never open the hood, the world would never know. :D

Spend all the money on the look, a big 426 painted on the hood, and then drop a slant 6 in the engine bay, preferably with 220,000 miles on it just for laughs.


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2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

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Quote from: mikesbbody on March 24, 2010, 05:38:42 PM



Wasn't it 358 C.I? or am I confusing it with Today's limit?

I'm pretty sure youre right on 358 being the limit both today and since the mid 70's. That's why I'm wondering if Dodge/Plymouth cars were running small block (LA?) based engines.  
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ON motors, the 426 Hemi was the weapon of choice until the restrictor plates made their appearance in Oct, 1970. (Yes, 1970).  Nascar played a LOT of games with different holes in the plates for different engines, trying to A. eliminate the "race only motors" the Hemi and the Ford "shotgun" 429, and B. trying to "eqaualize" everyone.
Therefore the "production based" motors, (read wedge) had a bigger plate.  so for the July Daytona race in 71, Chrysler brought out the 426 wedge, which finished 1-2-3-4 at Daytona, with Bobby Isaac winning.  Nascar then played some more games with the plate, and all of a sudden the Hemi was competitive again.  For 74, Nascar wanted to go the smallblock route, and slapped a smaller plate on anything over 355 C.I.  This effectively killed the big motors, but the small blocks did not have the reliability, (or so everyone thought).  Richard did not go to the smallblock until the spring North Wilkesboro race, which was a punched out 340. this was the basic engine configuration until Mopar was out of the running in 81, (I think Buddy Arrington was the last one, an 81 Mirada or Chrysler).  When Mopar got back in in '01, this was a race only motor like they're running now.  Good luck with the project.

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The picture didn't copy but 9K and you got an 800HP motor. something like that was going in my 68 at one time. :icon_smile_sad:
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charger_cody

Well what I could always do is get the body like Petty's and save for awhile to afford a 426 wedge, or, in the case of NASCAR putting a limit on the motors, slap a punched out 340 in it. Whatya think guys?

Cody

mikesbbody

Yeah, you could do that Nobody would know if it was stroked or not unless you told them.
What about a 408 small block stroker?

charger_cody

Quote from: mikesbbody on March 24, 2010, 10:02:15 PM
Yeah, you could do that Nobody would know if it was stroked or not unless you told them.
What about a 408 small block stroker?

Well I was also think about that or just a 400 bored out. I'm not really sure. But my main concern in the clors of the car.... Do they make a sticker set for this? I know the 43 was painted on along with the red, but didn't he have a car that didn't have red on it?

Cody

Aero426

Quote from: charger_cody on March 25, 2010, 08:22:36 AM
Quote from: mikesbbody on March 24, 2010, 10:02:15 PM
Yeah, you could do that Nobody would know if it was stroked or not unless you told them.
What about a 408 small block stroker?

Well I was also think about that or just a 400 bored out. I'm not really sure. But my main concern in the clors of the car.... Do they make a sticker set for this? I know the 43 was painted on along with the red, but didn't he have a car that didn't have red on it?

Cody

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charger_cody

See that one there says 360 c.i. Is it really running a 360? And go google richard petty charger. There are a couple that are petty blue with just the stickers. None of the red.

Cody

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Quote from: charger_cody on March 25, 2010, 12:27:23 PM
See that one there says 360 c.i. Is it really running a 360? And go google richard petty charger. There are a couple that are petty blue with just the stickers. None of the red.

Cody

those might be the Road Runners he ran for a while in 71-72 before switching to the Charger and before STP sponsored him.
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