Need 440 K member measurement

[troy.70R/T]

I need to know what the measurement between the two holes where motor mount bolts go through the k frame at so I can determan if I have a 440 K frame in the Charger that I bought. Thanks Troy

[John_Kunkel]

That dimension won't help you narrow down the year, it was the same from '66-'72.

[troy.70R/T]

I just want to know what K fram is in the 68 Charger that I have. I am assuming that it is a 440 K member. The car is an XS vin number car I just want to make sure no one ever swapped out the K frame. The car had no motor or trans when I got it.

[oldcarnut]

Is this what your were looking for?  Mine was about 14" inside edge to inside edge. 70 RR   O--O

[troy.70R/T]

Yes, thanks Oldcarnut that what I was looking for 

[Mike DC]

The 68-70 Chargers had the same K-frame for all the V8 engines except the Hemi.  Just the (bolt on) motor mounts were different depending on whether it was a smallblock or a bigblock. 


   

[troy.70R/T]

So your saying that a 318 K-frame is the same as a 440 K-frame except for the extra skid plate that is on a 440 K-frame? Well I guess I should ask if all 440 K-frames had that skid plate welded to them? Also is that ANY 68-70 B-body or just chargers.

[John_Kunkel]

At the Schumacher site in the link below scroll down the menu on the left to "K-frame identification", click on it and find the '70 K-member pictured. In the flange of the "U" shaped opening on each side notice a series of small holes, these are for the brackets that support the sway bar; only '70 and later used this type of sway bar.

http://www.engine-swaps.com/

[Mike DC]

All B/E-bodies from like 66-72 had the same K-frames for either smallblock or bigblock wedge V8s.  Same K-frame from 273-440 inches, just different little motor mounts bolted on.   

In 1973 and up they started using two different K-frames for smallblock and bigblock V8s. 



None of them had the skid plates except the Hemi K-frames. 

The only other K-frame for these cars was the slant/6 one.     

[troy.70R/T]

Thanks for the link John. I will look at my 68 next weekend. As for the no skid plate except on hemis I thought that there were some heavy duty K-frames with the skid plate on them. I am not sure if you call it a skid plate, but my 70 440 R/T has something like that. I will try to find a picture of my 70 and post it. Thanks again guys.

[troy.70R/T]

Well I guess I don't have a picture of my 70 K-frame but I am certain that it has a small skid plate on it.

[John_Kunkel]

In '70-'71 both the Hemi and the 440HP used the same oil pan which extended below the normal bottom of the K-member, the skid plate was added to protect the leading edge of the pan.

[troy.70R/T]

Well I guess that explains it. Thanks John

[maxwellwedge]

Here are a couple of pics of a 70 440-6 E-Body with the skid plate.

[troy.70R/T]

Yep,that is what my 70 440 Charger K-frame looks like.

[Mike DC]

 
Yeah, I goofed about the skid plates.  These guys are correct.