Derelict C500 Found - Help W/ Codes

[Smokey Bear]

Hi folks,

Here is the tag on a found C500 that has been derelict and hidden away since the 70's.

1. Please help me verify the decode below.
2. Why F8 F8 duplication?
3. It looks like the car had a vinyl top that was removed - any clues in the codes?

M21  M31  R21 V88 26
C55 G11  G31  G33  J25  L31
AF01  A11  A32  B41  B51 C16
F8F8  C6x X9  B20  925---
E86  D32  XX29 L9B 217---

M21 Roof drip trough moldings-chrome
M31 Belt and hood moldings
R11 AM/FM radio
V88 Black 500 tail stripe
26 26" Radiator support

C55 Bucket Seats
G11 Tinted Glass
G31 RH (Passenger side) Rear View Mirror
G33  LH Remote control mirror
J25  3 Speed wipers
L31  Hood mounted turn signals

AF01 Light Package?
A11Charger 500/Daytona
A32 Super performance Axle package, includes 4:10 Dana
B41 Power front disk brakes
B51 Power brakes
C16 Console Shift

F8F8 Greeeeeen
C6X Black interior, vinyl bucket seats
X9 Black interior, Windshield pillars and upper door frame.
820 Build date

E86 440 375 hp
D32  727 trans

This car is complete, no real rust other than surface where some paint was sanded off. Dusty as heck!

Last Q: Is there a registry that this car might be in with previous owner info or does anyone have any info/knowledge of it? It has been hidden away for a very long time, so maybe it's faded from record. Car is in NW USA.

Thanks!

[tan top]

wow SB thats a find & half  

think F8F8 is because  it has not  got a vinyl top , although don't quote me on this    

A01 yep light group
V88 stripe delete
B20  build date (SPD)  20th of novenber 68

would love to see any pictures    

[maxwellwedge]

Yep TT is right - F8  F8   Roof and Body same color - F8 Green - not two-tone.

Sounds like a nice find!

PM Danny and see if he knows about it.

[hemigeno]

Hi folks,

Here is the tag on a found C500 that has been derelict and hidden away since the 70's.

1. Please help me verify the decode below.
2. Why F8 F8 duplication?
3. It looks like the car had a vinyl top that was removed - any clues in the codes?

M21  M31  R21 V88 26
C55 G11  G31  G33  J25  L31
AF01  A11  A32  B41  B51 C16
F8F8  C6x X9  B20  925---
E86  D32  XX29 L9B 217---

M21 Roof drip trough moldings-chrome
M31 Belt and hood moldings
R11 AM/FM radio
V88 Transverse Tape Stripe Delete
26 26" Radiator support

C55 Bucket Seats
G11 Tinted Glass - All (except rear glass for a C500)
G31 RH (Passenger side) Rear View Mirror
G33  LH Remote control mirror
J25  3 Speed wipers
L31  Hood mounted turn signals

A01 Light Package?  (Don't know what the "F" would be as there's no such code that I know of)
A11Charger 500/Daytona
A32 Super performance Axle package, includes 4:10 Dana
B41 Power front disk brakes
B51 Power brakes
C16 Console Shift

F8F8 Greeeeeen   Dark Metallic Green Roof & Body Color (Hamtramck put the code there twice on all Chargers)
C6X Black interior, vinyl bucket seats
X9 Black interior, Windshield pillars and upper door frame.  (referenced upper door frame paint only)
B20 Build date    Scheduled production date of November 20th
E86 440 375 hp
D32  727 trans

This car is complete, no real rust other than surface where some paint was sanded off. Dusty as heck!

Last Q: Is there a registry that this car might be in with previous owner info or does anyone have any info/knowledge of it? It has been hidden away for a very long time, so maybe it's faded from record. Car is in NW USA.

Thanks!

One of the aero car clubs or Danny Liebrandt / 69_500  may have information - but if it's been off the radar screen for that long it could be "new" to all of them.  In order to check it out, they would need the full VIN.

Thanks for posting the information!

[hemigeno]

think F8F8 is because  it has not  got a vinyl top

Yep TT is right - F8  F8   Roof and Body same color - F8 Green - not two-tone.

Although, Hamtramck seemed to print the body color twice regardless of whether that particular car was coded for a vinyl top or not.  The St. Louis assembly plant, on the other hand, usually left off the first color code (roof color) if it was a V-top car.  Either way, there were 1969 models which could be ordered with a roof color paint different from the body color - and that's one of the places that distinction would be made.  Chargers were all mono/single-tone paint jobs in '69, so it's a moot point on their tags.

[69_500]

Well without the last 3 of the VIN its hard to tell if I have heard of the car before or not. Narrowing it down from the list of VIN's I have in front of me there are 16 that I know of that start 217xxx, and of those 3 are F8 cars so its possible. PM me if you want

[maxwellwedge]

think F8F8 is because  it has not  got a vinyl top

Yep TT is right - F8  F8   Roof and Body same color - F8 Green - not two-tone.

Although, Hamtramck seemed to print the body color twice regardless of whether that particular car was coded for a vinyl top or not.  The St. Louis assembly plant, on the other hand, usually left off the first color code (roof color) if it was a V-top car.  Either way, there were 1969 models which could be ordered with a roof color paint different from the body color - and that's one of the places that distinction would be made.  Chargers were all mono/single-tone paint jobs in '69, so it's a moot point on their tags.

Yup - My 2-tone 69 Swinger (W1)White painted roof and B7 body.

[moparstuart]

Well without the last 3 of the VIN its hard to tell if I have heard of the car before or not. Narrowing it down from the list of VIN's I have in front of me there are 16 that I know of that start 217xxx, and of those 3 are F8 cars so its possible. PM me if you want

my car is      217188     possible B-20 date    no tag on my car

this car is a close relative to mine  LOL

[PocketThunder]

My former C500 was B18, november 18th build date.  vin number 214385

[Smokey Bear]

Thanks guys. I've known about this car for awhile and it's likley coming up for sale due to distress between parties to settle debt. For this reason I need to be a little discreet for the time being. I do have pics and will follow up with that, a photo of the tag and full vin later once sale is either completed or falls through. Again - thanks a bunch for the replies - I knew this was the place to ask.

[b5blue]

Good luck Smokey!   

[hemi68charger]

Good find..  

Everything's covered already by the gurus....

Troy

[tan top]

Thanks guys. I've known about this car for awhile and it is very likely coming up for sale due to distress between parties to settle debt. For this reason I need to be a little discreet for the time being. I do have pics and will follow up with that, a photo of the tag and full vin later once sale is either completed or falls through. Again - thanks a bunch for the replies - I knew this was the place to ask.

yeah we / I understand !! keeping quite till you buy it  !! good plan , well fingers crossed & good luck on the deal SB    
looking forward to seeing pictures as & when  

[moparstuart]

good luck hope you get it   

[bull]

What? No pics?

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Although, Hamtramck seemed to print the body color twice regardless of whether that particular car was coded for a vinyl top or not.  The St. Louis assembly plant, on the other hand, usually left off the first color code (roof color) if it was a V-top car.  

Gene you have that backwards....

[richRTSE]

Nice find, Smokey!    Can't wait to see some pictures. By the way, all 500 have the V88 stripe delete code, since the stripe was added after the conversion. Also, it could have had a dealer installed vinyl top, there are of few of those around. Good luck.

[A383Wing]

 

[Hemidog]

What he said!

[moparstuart]

What he said!

i'm hoping its close enought to mine it  might have my broad cast sheet   

[Smokey Bear]

This is all I can share for now until title status is known and things shake out. I promise to get back in the future with full pics whether this works out or not.

Thanks again, guys.

[tan top]

This is all I can share for now until title status is known and things shake out. I promise to get back in the future with full pics whether this works out or not.

Thanks again, guys.

 

[maxwellwedge]

R21 - AM/FM radio - cool!

[hemi68charger]

R21 - AM/FM radio - cool!

That IS cool.......

DB or soon-to-be C500B....  I'll take both..... 

[maxwellwedge]

I'm thinking AB for you!

[hemi68charger]

I'm thinking AB for you!

AB= Aero Bastard?     If so, I like it.........

[maxwellwedge]

I'm thinking AB for you!

AB= Aero Bastard?     If so, I like it.........

You like it? - That makes two of us!     

[hemigeno]

Although, Hamtramck seemed to print the body color twice regardless of whether that particular car was coded for a vinyl top or not.  The St. Louis assembly plant, on the other hand, usually left off the first color code (roof color) if it was a V-top car.  

Gene you have that backwards....

Chris, you're right -  Hamtramck is the one that left the first color code off on V-top cars, not St. Louis.  I think I've messed that up before too, maybe one day I'll learn...

[68pplcharger]

 

[jeffs440]

Well without the last 3 of the VIN its hard to tell if I have heard of the car before or not. Narrowing it down from the list of VIN's I have in front of me there are 16 that I know of that start 217xxx, and of those 3 are F8 cars so its possible. PM me if you want

my car is      217188     possible B-20 date    no tag on my car

this car is a close relative to mine  LOL

My C500 is a 217183 also B20 build date, pretty close to yours huh?

[moparstuart]

Well without the last 3 of the VIN its hard to tell if I have heard of the car before or not. Narrowing it down from the list of VIN's I have in front of me there are 16 that I know of that start 217xxx, and of those 3 are F8 cars so its possible. PM me if you want

my car is      217188     possible B-20 date    no tag on my car

this car is a close relative to mine  LOL

My C500 is a 217183 also B20 build date, pretty close to yours huh?

very cool      did you find my build sheet in your  ?           what color is your car  ??
any pictures  ?

[tan top]

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[DC_1]

 

[jeffs440]

I did have the build sheet at one time but lost it when I was a young kid and didn't know what I had at the time. It said it was a special order 69 charger 500 I recall.. The fender tag says its a R4 car with C6R interior color.

[moparstuart]

I did have the build sheet at one time but lost it when I was a young kid and didn't know what I had at the time. It said it was a special order 69 charger 500 I recall.. The fender tag says its a R4 car with C6R interior color.

cool they are close in vin number  and the same color


  how is yours optioned     

[jeffs440]

well nothing special, r11,v88,g15,g33,j25,l31,m21,a01,a04,a11,b51,c16,c55,e86,d32, 440 auto 323 gears but now 4.10

[moparstuart]

well nothing special, r11,v88,g15,g33,j25,l31,m21,a01,a04,a11,b51,c16,c55,e86,d32, 440 auto 323 gears but now 4.10

i think it must be very much like the way mine was optioned   

[tan top]

I did have the build sheet at one time but lost it when I was a young kid and didn't know what I had at the time. It said it was a special order 69 charger 500 I recall.. The fender tag says its a R4 car with C6R interior color.

  nice , would love to see more pictures sometime 

[nascarxx29]

Was this the car from IA ID that I seen before on craiglist personal

[CTinCT]

How come I find nothing??

[69_500]

Hey Jeff.

Does your car have the 22" radiator in it as well? Just curious as you said it had the 3.23 gears in it originally figured it would have the 22" radiator core support too?

[jeffs440]

yeah it came with a 22 and still have it, also have a 26 and a aluminum too. It use to get very hot with the 22 so I went to a bigger size.