My Dodge Charger '69 R/T 440cid

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good day by the looks of it 

[bobs66440]

Glad to hear you had fun!! That's what it's all about!!

[Charger´69]

Today I examined engine´s adjustments and adjusted sparking advance from 5 degrees before to 10 degrees before. I also checked Holley Street Avenger setup and here You can read more of it:

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,69721.0.html

I have also one question of that carb adjustment and if someone know what should I do I would appreciate a little help now 

[Charger´69]

Well, this week I have adjusted carb settings and kickdown rods and now this mean devil is faster, stronger and meaner  And it works great now!! 

Maybe now I´ll just drive with it and do nothing if not necessary 

And here is in my opinion pretty cool picture of it 

[bobs66440]

Very nice car man! What wheel/tire combination do you have? 

[1969chargerrtse]

That is a beautiful car.  You did well.  I was so hoping there would be no sad things popping up as I read on from page one.  Beautiful car.

I love that jack. 

[Charger´69]

Very nice car man! What wheel/tire combination do you have? 

Thanks! Those are Magnum 500 wheels (or Road wheels, same thing I quess). I remember that those are 8" wide wheels, size is 15". Front tires are BFG 215/65 and reartires BFG 245/60. Reartires are too small, maybe I do few burnouts and then I "must" buy BFG 295/50 

[bobs66440]

Very nice car man! What wheel/tire combination do you have? 

Thanks! Those are Magnum 500 wheels (or Road wheels, same thing I quess). I remember that those are 8" wide wheels, size is 15". Front tires are BFG 215/65 and reartires BFG 245/60. Reartires are too small, maybe I do few burnouts and then I "must" buy BFG 295/50 

That's the most FUN way of using them up!! 

[Charger´69]

Today we adjusted Charger´s brakes  Right front brake needed adjusting becaus it didn´t brake as much than left front brake. Now brakes are balanced 

Maybe later tonight we´ll go cruising with it if weather gets better, it just rained so roads are wet and my Charger stays in garage till roads are dry again 

[bobs66440]

t just rained so roads are wet and my Charger stays in garage till roads are dry again 

You got that right!   

[Charger´69]

Now I haven´t done anything to my Charger, only washed it few times etc., but mainly I´ve just driven it a lot and it´s been GREAT!!!!! 

I found one interesting picture of it, this is taken couple days later when I got this Charger one month ago. Here we can see how this color transforms when sun shines... What color this might be..? I thought this is Hemi orange but maybe it is too red to be Hemi orange color. What do you guys think?  It´s in normal weather red, but when sun is shining it turns out pretty orange 

[Johnny SixPack]

Don't know the color, but she's d@mn pretty! 

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun

[jeryst]

That seems like a very drastic change in color.
Maybe it was painted with a flip-flop style paint.

Dont quite know how to describe what to look for.

Look at it without the sun shining directly on it, when it looks red.
Then look at any of the sharper edges that are reflecting some light.
Do the edges look orange?

[Charger´69]

Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun

Your's Charger's paint looks just like my Chargers paint, what color is it do you know? 

And by the way, nice wheels 

[Charger´69]

That seems like a very drastic change in color.
Maybe it was painted with a flip-flop style paint.

Dont quite know how to describe what to look for.

Look at it without the sun shining directly on it, when it looks red.
Then look at any of the sharper edges that are reflecting some light.
Do the edges look orange?

I´ll check that in this week 

[Charger´69]

Today I really punished my Charger, I tested quarter mail times with G-Tech two times...  Of course on "closed track" 

Road was little dirty and those BFG 245 wide reartires was VERY slippery when launching car moving, so rear tires smoked really bad  on both speed ups so I didn´t get decent 1/4 times, but here are numbers: 1/4 mail times was almost mid 14´s, 0-60mph was 6.2 seconds and trap speed was +100mph. So these numbers are pretty normal to this kind of kombination I think..? 

I just calculated with horsepower calculators and those showed me that there might be something 300-315 RWHP (with 18% drivetrain loss it makes something 360-380 hp from flywheel). Doesn´t surprise much, because engine is almost original 440cid Magnum, only carb is changed to Holley Street Avenger DP 670cfm and cam is little bit stiffer than original Magnum cam.

I´ll test this soon in this summer also on real drag race track and then we´ll see how it moves when is decent track and I´ll have to also practise MUCH launching this devil that I can get better 1/4 mail times, I shouldn´t smoke tires that badly if I want it to move faster  My target is to get it going somewhere low 14´s or high 13´s, I don´t know is it possible but let´s see what happens..... 

What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..? 

[XS29L9B2]

so cute your car 

[Khyron]

Im thinking the carb is small...I say up the carb, put a 150 shot of giggle juice on it and "let her eat"

That will get ya where you want it

[PocketThunder]

Yep...Hemi Orange & other oranges will flip in the sun or lack there of


Top pic...overcast day....

Bottom pic...bright sun

Your's Charger's paint looks just like my Chargers paint, what color is it do you know? 

And by the way, nice wheels 

DuPont "Spectramaster Red....code # RS673K if you wanted to know" urethane enamel base coat/clear coat paint.

http://members.tripod.com/charger_rt69/body___.htm

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

Thanks Paul!

What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..?  

I think mid to high 13's are definitely attainable with your combo

[Charger´69]

Im thinking the carb is small...I say up the carb, put a 150 shot of giggle juice on it and "let her eat"

That will get ya where you want it

I´ve wondered that myself too after I got this car, but is it too small? 

I just calculated that with carb CFM calculator (displacement 440cid, max rpm in this case shiftpoint 5500 rpm, 90% VE) and that seems to show that required cfm is 630cfm, with 100% it is VE 700cfm. And I have 670cfm, so, in theory this carb is pretty correct to this engine. But if I use 440cid, 6000rpm, 100% VE it shows that required cfm is 763cfm. I´ve always thought that 750cfm DP would be right to 440cid and that seems to kind of true. But do I get more power with 750cfm carburator, because shiftpoint is somewhere 5000-5500rpm and I don´t think that my engines VE% is 100, I think it is somewhere between 85-90% and with those numbers 670cfm carburator is sufficient 

I used this calculator: http://www.4secondsflat.com/Carb_CFM_Calculator.html

And noooooooo, no giggle juices with this kind of car  But maybe 8-71 would be nice.....  But maybe better just drive when everything is rocking 

[Charger´69]

Thanks Paul!

What do you guys think about those numbers, are those bad/normal/good to this combination..?  

I think mid to high 13's are definitely attainable with your combo

Those quarter mail times were poor when I tried those because I haven´t practise accelerating properly before with this car, but trap speed tells me that there is some power. Do you think that mid to high 13's is attainable really with this setup that I have without doing nothing to it, or did you mean that this kind of combo normally goes to those numbers..?  

I read somewhere that even Hemi didn´t do better 1/4 mail times than 13.4-13.7s, so how fast can almost unchangeable 440cid Magnum be?   That mid or high 13´s would be great if I get to those this summer   Of course with slicks tires it could be easy, but I want to get my numbers always with normal street setup  

[Charger´69]

Today I bought ignition timing light that have adjustable 0-60 degree spark advance knop. So of course I immediately tuned my spark advance  Few weeks before I increased spark advance from 5 degrees before to 10 degrees before. It worked fine and gave me more power 

Today I checked max spark advance with new timing light and it was only 30 degrees. So, I increased it to 35-36 degrees, someone said that even 38 degrees would be good. But that max where I dear to tune it. It didn´t start knocking even when I floor it and drive all gears through  Or then I didn´t hear it, but it worked very good and again, more power from engine  If I don´t imagine that all  What you guys think, is my max spark advance still in "safe area"..?  My Charger is so noisy when revving it, that I´m not sure if I even can hear if it knocks, but doesn´t that feel also in loss of power if it starts knocking?  My idle spark advance is now somewhere 14-15 degrees before, so I have increased spark advance something 10 degrees what there used to be before. And there came plenty more power 

Why 1969 Repair manual sais that idle spark advance should be 5 degrees before, if it makes much more power with 15 degrees basic advance and with max advance 35-36 degrees..?  That is quite a big difference 

We just came from few hours cruising in town with my friends, damn it was fun again  These my friends doesn´t own American cars themselves, but everyone seemed to be like in heaven (or maybe hell is better said  ), those liked a lot to be cruising in Charger 

[Charger´69]

Tomorrow I´m going to change my original coil to MSD Blaster 2 coil, so, do I have to do anything else to it than only swap original coil to MSD coil and fire it up? 

I think I was reading from somewhere that there might come some problems because MSD is something 42-45kV coil and original coil I think is less than or maximum 30kV coil. So might there be problems with new coil or not? Many have changed original coil to MSD, have you guys just swapped coils without any other changes to electrical and does it work right that way? 

Original coil has some resistor in firewall, does MSD need it anymore?