Do you find Nascar boring, too?

[rt green]

yes, back in the day you had to be a really good driver. those guys were going just as fast as they are now with far less fancy suspension.

[restoman]

NASCAR has forgotten where it came from. Its all BIG money BIG companies now, and BIG money teams. The small guy is out. Have you looked at the crowds during the race, when they'll scan alittle in the stands? They're half empty, and I don't think its just the economy. People just don't care anymore. Its not as fun to watch,just seeing the Hendrick cars win every week IS BORING. I've been watching NASCAR since the early 80's, now I've only watched 1 race this year. I think I'll probably watch just a few more this season.

In my opinion, this is what is killing Nascar. I've been a fan since the early 70s, way back when I was still just a kid.
But now. Yeah, it's getting boring.
Now, it's all about which millionaire can beat which millionaire, and how much money they spent doing it. There are no more true, made-it-to-the-big-league-the-hard-way drivers, and there never will be again. Nascar lost big time when guys like Earnhardt died, or when hard core drivers like Ricky Rudd, or Sterling Marlin couldn't be competive in the way-underfunded cars and thus had to step aside. Big $$$ sponsors dictated who the drivers were gonna be, and the crusty veterans weren't what they were looking for.
There was no-one to replace them, just a bunch of whiny snot-nosed kids who moan and bitch when someone roughs them up, or when their cool suits don't work well or when their car doesn't handle.
Nascar experienced a tremendous boom and then weren't ready for the bust when it came. They lost a lot of their core fans and seemed more intersted in going after the young and brain-dead fans with lots of money to blow.
Nascar is trying to better themselves, but until they can get themselves back to the product that made them famous, all the little tweaks that they try won't be working.
I'd be willing to bet that if you could place an older guy like Rudd, Pearson or Bill Elliot in one of those millionaire's cars, that he could still kick some serious hiney. It's working for Mark Martin, and as much as I like him, I don't think he was ever up to Rudd's or Elliot's standards.

[troy.70R/T]

I agree it is boring and nothing more than a two to three hour comercial.  I would only watch it if they actually had to still race factory cars that I could buy. Didn't it used to be called stock car racing?? Just seems like all the good things are gone. In an era where REALITY T.V. is so big why have fake races with fake cars?

[TylerCharger69]

Here's a idea, They all get drunk, have mismatched tires and a stuck throttle.

Or here's one..."Extreme Nascar Challenge"

Put these guys on the Talladega raceway.  An accident happens?.....Leave the wreckage on the track...oil and all.  Pit lane?....no speed limits....Take the restrictor plates off.  Every time an accident occurs?....Drive in the other direction....You can set the car up however you want.....no rules on that....Now!!   you got a serious race!!!....lol

[Mike DC]

              
IMHO the huge cornering grip on the cars has killed the fun of the sport.  As with most auto racing. 

The problem is the consequences of losing traction are too high.  Pretty soon the whole game operates on such tiny twitches & movements from the cars . . . nothing visible to watch anymore.   

 

 

     

[69DodgeCharger]

 


A once  or twice a year 200-250 mile Nostalgia race with the teams allowed to use an old body under the old rules from whatever time frame they decide. Now I'd watch that.
 

 

     

[Black Charger]

The Car Of Tomorrow definitely killed NASCAR for me. The old 'win on Sunday sell on Monday" adage no longer applies since the race cars have absolutely nothing in common with stock ones you see on the street.

I also think NASCAR messed up badly when they didn't retire #43 with Richard Petty. That number hasn't been done justice since Richard ran it. It is now a mid to rear pack car at best.

[Mike DC]

 
NASCAR is going to keep homogenizing the cars more and more as long as the fans keep showing up.  Honestly I'm surprised they're still allowing different engines or anything these days.  They clearly wanna turn it into an IROC deal. 

 
 

[THE STIG]

I've never liked NASCAR, I'm more into road racing. I also can't understand how those rednecks can drive for 495 miles with parts falling off their cars but as soon as there is a hot dog wrapper on the track in the final 10 laps we get yellow flags for debris on the track. But if you look at NASCAR's recent slip in popularity, think about when it first jumped, back in the early 90's. NASCAR's rise in popularity coincides directly with open-wheel's decline and the CART/IRL split. Now that CART and IRL have merged back into the IRL you would think that there would someone in that ircus act that they call a racing series that could find a way to capitilize, but no they're continuing to run that operation into the ground too.

[Mike DC]

I also can't understand how those rednecks can drive for 495 miles with parts falling off their cars but as soon as there is a hot dog wrapper on the track in the final 10 laps we get yellow flags for debris on the track

Well, SOMETHING has to bunch the field back up again right at the end.  Otherwise the finishes might be boring, and the first 495 miles might be relevant for something other than whittling down the number of cars on the field at the end. 

[stripedelete]

I also can't understand how those rednecks can drive for 495 miles with parts falling off their cars but as soon as there is a hot dog wrapper on the track in the final 10 laps we get yellow flags for debris on the track

Well, SOMETHING has to bunch the field back up again right at the end.  Otherwise the finishes might be boring, and the first 495 miles might be relevant for something other than whittling down the number of cars on the field at the end. 

Kind of like the 1 o'clock NFL game ALWAYS ending at 4 pm now a days.

[hemigeno]

Here's a idea, They all get drunk, have mismatched tires and a stuck throttle.

Or here's one..."Extreme Nascar Challenge"

Put these guys on the Talladega raceway.  An accident happens?.....Leave the wreckage on the track...oil and all.  Pit lane?....no speed limits....Take the restrictor plates off.  Every time an accident occurs?....Drive in the other direction....You can set the car up however you want.....no rules on that....Now!!   you got a serious race!!!....lol

I thought it was funny during this year's Daytona500 coverage when one of the drivers suggested that NASCAR just put an orange cone in front of the pothole which developed late in the race.  "We all know it's there" he said, or something to that effect...