Get ready, Chevy Volt due this November. Update!!!

[ACUDANUT]

In the past couple of days, I have seen many commercials advertising the Chevy Volt.  I don't understand. What gives. ??

[1969chargerrtse]

Because saying it's over is not true.  They are stopping production for about a month.  I talked to the wife today about buying one, but I just don't want the tax and insurance prices to go with it.  I have way many other priorities than to buy a new car.  I am tempted though, this would the time for a great deal.

' Lee said a decision to allow Volt drivers to use carpool lanes in California should help demand. "We're just looking to increase sales, and we see a positive trend going forward," he said.

Although the Volt has not been a big seller, the low-emission vehicle has improved GM's reputation for innovation. "

[1969chargerrtse]

Well, it's official. The Volt is no longer being made.  Too much to make and waay too many problems.
After all the Billions GM took from the Gov. to produce/make it too.  

Really?  The opening comment is not correct, but outside of an incorrect crash test what are all the problems?

[mauve66]

how do you have an incorrect crash test???  the car crashes, a couple days later it bursts into flames..................................

[Troy]

I've been seeing tons of new ads too. I thought there was some big waiting list for these cars? If so, why are they not selling?

Troy

[Tilar]

how do you have an incorrect crash test???  the car crashes, a couple days later it bursts into flames..................................

I need to get off of facebook, I was looking for the "like" button. 

[1969chargerrtse]

Wow, guess I was wrong about people wanting the car, and right about it being a political machine.

http://money.msn.com/politics/post.aspx?post=4ca803c1-6eb2-4834-a115-4d1c8929dd25

Then again this is a MSN article.  Politics.

[1969chargerrtse]

how do you have an incorrect crash test???  the car crashes, a couple days later it bursts into flames..................................

" I'm not one to say, "I told you so," but I did say back on Jan. 5 that there's nothing wrong with the Chevy Volt's battery. Now, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has come to the same conclusion and has closed its safety investigation into General Motors' plug-in electric hybrid.

NHTSA concluded there was "no discernible defect trend" in the Volt, adding that GM's plan to reinforce the area around the battery pack with an extra piece of steel would reduce the potential for battery intrusion in the event of a severe side impact.

I quote: "Based on the available data, NHTSA does not believe that Chevy Volts or other electric vehicles pose a greater risk of fire than gasoline-powered vehicles."

 The safety agency opened its investigation on November 25 after a Volt it had been testing caught fire several weeks after a severe rollover, side-impact crash test. GM, which helped with the investigation, found that a minor intrusion in the battery pack combined with a small amount of coolant leaking onto the battery's electronic circuit board could enable a fire. NHTSA said it appeared that both conditions were necessary in order for a fire to occur. "

All vehicles have some risk of fire in the event of a serious crash. GM has said all along that it's important with any crashed vehicle, not just the Volt, that the battery be disconnected and drained of all energy.

[1969chargerrtse]

I've been seeing tons of new ads too. I thought there was some big waiting list for these cars? If so, why are they not selling?

Troy

Yeah true, there was but not anymore I guess. They're not selling because of Politics for 1 reason.

[chargerboy69]

I am sorry, but the reason the Volt is not selling is not because of politics.  The are plenty of Progressive tree huggers out there who could be buying this car but they are not. The Leaf is not selling either, is that politics too?  GM and others can make excuses and blame poor sales on politics, but that is just not the case. They are just mad the Volt is going the way of the Pontiac Aztek.

[Ghoste]

I agree, at least somewhat, the Volt was selling poorly before it became a football.  The fact its selling poorly made it an easy target and once they latched onto it, the sales got even worse.

[1969chargerrtse]

Yeah I thought and still think it's cool. But to each his own. I'm still gonna swing by a Chevy dealership and test ride one.  

2 car things I was wrong about.  The Volt being a hit, at 95 mpg and 4.00 gas who would think few would care?
and when the vette lost it's hidden headlamps I thought that was a huge stupid move and affect sales and then come back.  Wrong.

[Ghoste]

I thought 100% the same thing on the Corvette.

[Tilar]

I've been seeing tons of new ads too. I thought there was some big waiting list for these cars? If so, why are they not selling?

Troy

Yeah true, there was but not anymore I guess. They're not selling because of Politics for 1 reason.

The only reason it was being sold in the first place was politics. 

[1969chargerrtse]

I've been seeing tons of new ads too. I thought there was some big waiting list for these cars? If so, why are they not selling?

Troy

Yeah true, there was but not anymore I guess. They're not selling because of Politics for 1 reason.

The only reason it was being sold in the first place was politics.  

I never saw it that way. Gas was near 5.00 and Obama wasn't president when it was being created.
Volt sales hit a record 2,000 in March. I still think many people don't even know of the Volt?

[1969chargerrtse]

I thought 100% the same thing on the Corvette.

Yeah  I even bet my older brother I knew what I was talking about. He has the brains and money and I was the vette owner at the time and the street smart guy. I lost. Old school thinking I guess. Still would love to see the RS Camaro with hideaways.

[chargerboy69]

I've been seeing tons of new ads too. I thought there was some big waiting list for these cars? If so, why are they not selling?

Troy

Yeah true, there was but not anymore I guess. They're not selling because of Politics for 1 reason.

The only reason it was being sold in the first place was politics.  

I never saw it that way. Gas was near 5.00 and Obama wasn't president when it was being created.
Volt sales hit a record 2,000 in March. I still think many people don't even know of the Volt?

Huh.    In front of every media outlet Obama jumped in one and drove it. He gives countless speeches about the car and promises to buy one when he is done being president in 2012.    I have seen a ton of GM commercials for the car, and the "big" three media outlets praise it daily.

Sorry, I will have to disagree with you on that one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpK5KqplxK8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOoUwJV8WY8

[1969chargerrtse]

I guess it's how you view it. Statement was " being sold ". So yeah politics probably plays a part. I misunderstood by thinking when it was first conceived it was Gm's idea of beating 5.00 a gallon gas as most people feared the prices would keep going up. Even GM said it was not designed to be a political machine, but is.

[Ghoste]

GM says that now BUT, if Obama's glad handing was helping to sell them instead of hurting it, they would be all over that connection.

[1969chargerrtse]

Probably. But one thing you can't take away is the technology learned and what it can do to head into a future not oil dependent by people that hate us.

[Ghoste]

The world will likely run out of oil before technology negates its need.  Remember in spite of what the greens would have us believe, world gasoline consumption actually accounts for a percentage (estimates vary but all in the 40% range) of oils uses.

[1969chargerrtse]

The world will likely run out of oil before technology negates its need.  Remember in spite of what the greens would have us believe, world gasoline consumption actually accounts for a percentage (estimates vary but all in the 40% range) of oils uses.

Keep it simple silly. Bottom line is we are oil dependent. Anything that helps steer us in a direction not energy dependent from outside sources of evil is a good thing.

[chargerboy69]

The world will likely run out of oil before technology negates its need.  Remember in spite of what the greens would have us believe, world gasoline consumption actually accounts for a percentage (estimates vary but all in the 40% range) of oils uses.

Keep it simple silly. Bottom line is we are oil dependent. Anything that helps steer us in a direction not energy dependent from outside sources of evil is a good thing.

Very well said. 

That is why I am open for more drilling, then we can quite buying it from others. Then we can drive what we want instead of being "nudged" into buying a Leaf.

Of course we export over 700 millions barrels a year which to me is completely nuts.  We drill it only to ship it, then we have to buy from others what we just sold. . . . genius.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/05/us-on-pace-to-become-net-fuel-exporter/

[mauve66]

The world will likely run out of oil before technology negates its need.  Remember in spite of what the greens would have us believe, world gasoline consumption actually accounts for a percentage (estimates vary but all in the 40% range) of oils uses.

Keep it simple silly. Bottom line is we are oil dependent. Anything that helps steer us in a direction not energy dependent from outside sources of evil is a good thing.

Very well said. 

That is why I am open for more drilling, then we can quite buying it from others. Then we can drive what we want instead of being "nudged" into buying a Leaf.

Of course we export over 700 millions barrels a year which to me is completely nuts.  We drill it only to ship it, then we have to buy from others what we just sold. . . . genius.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/12/05/us-on-pace-to-become-net-fuel-exporter/

thats it exactly, get rid of the epa and we won't be dependent on anyone, even though we get most of our oil from canada and argentina, and we know how much those "evil" countries just hate us..........................................  the middle east is a waste of space and has nothing to do with the oil we use other than letting them run opec which in turn sets the prices

[69finder]

Canada has more oil than Saudia Arabia.  It's just a little more difficult to extract   Obama vetoing the pipeline wasn't a real smart move (instant work, more oil, what's not to like?).  The enviromentalists won but in general, Americans lost. 

As for the Volt, it's a good idea.  In theory.  In theory there's alot of good ideas, in reality, it doesn't really make sense to spend 30-40K on a car that gets 100MPG when there's already $1500 cars that get 40-50 MPG.  People are vain.  The Prius sells because it's an appeal to vanity.

The Volt isn't shiek right now.  Once it is, it will sell.  Simple.  Forget the environment, politics, whatever.  Appeal to the one thing people can relate to.  THEMSELVES!

Pragmatism has died in this day and age.  People would rather go broke driving a 10 MPG SUV/Truck (especially where I live) than be caught dead in a small fuel efficient car.  Go figure.  Our parents/grandparents were smart.  They look at value first, and the VERY rare person looked at Vanity.  You can tell because the super cars back in the day just didn't sell.  There's more Hemi's/SS's etc now than were made back in the day!!