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big brother is coming

Started by moparstuart, January 26, 2010, 05:17:28 PM

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moparstuart

GO SELL CRAZY SOMEWHERE ELSE WE ARE ALL STOCKED UP HERE

stripedelete

Ain't technology grand?

A child born today will never know privacy or private property. 

68X426

Comrade, you got that right. Privacy is so yesterday!

Ironic isn't it? A generation that screams about big brother will also post all their intimacies and life data on face-space, er.. my book, er ... world wide net, er ....

And politicians will limit our economic freedom while promising to protect all the other freedoms.??!!!? Ha.

Seriously, hope somebody can figure a way to attach the plate to a bird and then watch big brother go nuts trying to track it.


The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

stripedelete

Quote from: 68X426 on January 26, 2010, 05:48:08 PM
Comrade, you got that right. Privacy is so yesterday!

Ironic isn't it? A generation that screams about big brother will also post all their intimacies and life data on face-space, er.. my book, er ... world wide net, er ....


Very astute observation!!!!

And to your second point:
I saw Jack Anderson speak in 1991 and I will never forget this part: .... the white knight will ride up in the middle of the mess and say, "I can fix this,  just give me a little of your freedom".......... 



John_Kunkel


My stolen Viper was recovered by such a device, so there is an upside to their use.
Pardon me but my karma just ran over your dogma.

68X426

Excellent for you John. :cheers: Really. :cheers:

I have to add that it was what's left of a free market that innovated the Viper tracker, put it up for sale, allowing anyone to obtain it and use it in any manner they saw fit. Without government. With freedom of choice.

I'm in favor of the tracking plate only when it's a criminal on probation. If a good citizen wants the plate voluntarily, that's great too. I'm not for chaos, and no rules, just a balance between freedom and big brother.  :Twocents:





The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

Chatt69chgr

If that guy used that thing around here he would get so many hits that he wouldn't know which one to chase first. 

I don't have a problem with something like that as long as they use it ONLY for what he said.  I would like to see it illegal to use it to track peoples movements or for such things as determining whether you had your dog vaccinated, etc.  Next thing will be a kiosk along the highway that will interrogate the computer in your car which will be used to track your movements and issue you a ticket automatically for exceeding the speed limit (assuming you are at that exact location).  Probably would be able to determine if your seat belt was fastened and give you a ticket for that too.

Mike DC

 
   
It all starts with safety. 




Ask an adult population to voluntarily chip or GPS-track themselves, and they'll revolt at the idea. 

But if you offer to use it just on criminals, to "protect them" they'll be okay with it. 
Then in a few more years you can offer that same population the same electronic tracking gear to keep track of their pet or prized posessions . . . now they'll pay to buy it from you.  Once they're okay with controlling the pets they'll eventually start to be open to the idea of using it on their children. ("It's just while they're at this young age in this dangerous world we live in, that's all.") 

And once you've raised a generation or two being monitored then you no longer even have to sell them on it.  They'll feel unsafe without it and they will work harder & harder just to pay for the priviliege of having it. 


1969chargerrtse

Kinda like our GPS at work.  If you're doing your job and being where you should be, what's the problem?   :P
This car was sold many years ago to somebody in Wisconsin. I now am retired and living in Florida.

CYACOP

Quote from: 1969chargerrtse on January 28, 2010, 07:04:35 AM
Kinda like our GPS at work.  If you're doing your job and being where you should be, what's the problem?   :P
It's a trust issue.

68X426

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 28, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
... now they'll pay to buy it from you.  Once they're okay with controlling the pets they'll eventually start to be open to the idea of using it on their children. ("It's just while they're at this young age in this dangerous world we live in, that's all.") 

And once you've raised a generation or two being monitored then you no longer even have to sell them on it.  They'll feel unsafe without it and they will work harder & harder just to pay for the priviliege of having it. 

Great analysis Mike.


The 12 Scariest Words in the English Language:
We are Here from The Government and
We Want to Help You.

1968 Plymouth Road Runner, Hemi and much more
2013 Dodge Challenger RT, Hemi, Plum Crazy
2014 Ram 4x4 Hemi, Deep Cherry Pearl
1968 Dodge Charger, 318, not much else
1958 Dodge Pick Up, 383, loud
1966 Dodge Van, /6, slow

stripedelete

Quote from: Mike DC (formerly miked) on January 28, 2010, 05:17:40 AM
 
   
It all starts with safety. 




Ask an adult population to voluntarily chip or GPS-track themselves, and they'll revolt at the idea. 

But if you offer to use it just on criminals, to "protect them" they'll be okay with it. 
Then in a few more years you can offer that same population the same electronic tracking gear to keep track of their pet or prized posessions . . . now they'll pay to buy it from you.  Once they're okay with controlling the pets they'll eventually start to be open to the idea of using it on their children. ("It's just while they're at this young age in this dangerous world we live in, that's all.") 

And once you've raised a generation or two being monitored then you no longer even have to sell them on it.  They'll feel unsafe without it and they will work harder & harder just to pay for the priviliege of having it. 


:iagree:
Technology and free market are great, I have no problem with them.  I have no problem with this device/technology.  It is great in this application and probably others.  But, as Mike illustrated, it's that "slippery slope" that we have to watch out for...