Take the Poll! Y4 69 Charger- What color to paint it? Original or?

[hemi68charger]

Pretty solid car from New Mexico I have had for quite a while. AC car with 6 way seat. I think it is a half year car because the wiper motor is perpendicular. and well the build date is Feb. '69

The wiper motor is probably nothing more than a 3-speed version, had nothing to do whether it was a early, mid or late year production car. The 2-speed motor's rotating shaft was perpendicular to the firewall while the 3-speed was parallel.

The following pictures courtesy of Chris' '69 Registry site, thanks Chris..  

2-speed



3-speed



Troy

[hemi68charger]

Thank you for the pics. While I know over the years the Gold was not a popular color I must say it is growing on me as a stylish suttle color. I feel the lines of the 69 Charger speak volumes coupled with the R/T badging and the vinyl top.

I am interested to hear from folks on what color you would paint this car? Especially considering the cool high impact Mopar colors of this year.

Personally, I would put her back the way she was originally. As you know, there weren't too many out there like this......... But, at the end of the day, you have to do what you like.........

Troy

[Jake]

Thanks Troy, RE wiper. I get the two spd vs 3 spd motor. I thought there was a change on how the 3 spd motor was mounted. early cars the motor was tilted a bit and later cars the motor was perpendicular? Something to do with making room for the 6 pack air cleaner?

[hemi68charger]

Thanks Troy, RE wiper. I get the two spd vs 3 spd motor. I thought there was a change on how the 3 spd motor was mounted. early cars the motor was tilted a bit and later cars the motor was perpendicular? Something to do with making room for the 6 pack air cleaner?

Nope, if the car, in '69 only the A12 Superbees and RoadRunners got the 6bbl,  or as you eluded to in '70, the v-code cars automatically were coded for a 3-speed motor. All 3-speed motors were mounted the same. Now, there is a structural difference in '68 and earlier compared to the '69 later 3-speeds, but again, mounted the same.

Troy

[Jake]

Decisions Decisions. I just realized I have a small diecast with a color close to Y4. ok maybe not.

[Jake]

Progress report- Loaded on the trailer ready to go to the blaster.  Hoping to get the car back from the blaster this week. 99% parts needed to come off are off.

[472 R/T SE]

A few.

[nakita7]

Nothing wrong with the gold. Stand out from the blue/red/orange crowd and be different!

[Jake]

Looking for some clarification. in '69 I am finding two y4 colors. How does one determine the correct color?

[hemi68charger]

Looking for some clarification. in '69 I am finding two y4 colors. How does one determine the correct color?

Where are you finding two colors for Y4? Now, you could be referring to the fact that Plymouth and Dodge had two different names for the same color (code).

Dodge = Gold Poly 2034
Plymouth = Spanish Gold Poly 2034
Chrysler = Classic Gold 2034

Troy

PS: The '68 above looks like it is JJ1 medium Gold Poly 22807

[Jake]

Car is sealed up and the underside and blasted areas jammed Y4.  Looking at the color in the booth I have mixed feelings. Hoping the sun will react with the metallic and show a more gold color vs. green. Progress is progress... so it goes.

[Jake]

Here is a shot of the Y4. Trunk and underside is jammed.

[Jake]

Still debating on color. This Y4 looks so green, then outside it looks different/ok. No sun and outside, looks different again. All due to the metallic this I know. Sprayed a junk deck lid w 3 colors, '69 Gold Poly 22034 Y4 and 22807 a '68 color Med Gold and some other way off color.  Very small difference but enough to notice when comparing the two afore mentioned. The '68 color has less green, looks lighter and has more of a silver hue to it. After a detailed review of the recipe the only difference is the use of larger metallic. While I know this is my decision and I am sorry but pics just dont do jack when looking at colors. Curious if I could get some local guys up to the shop for their opinion on which color to go to? Free beer etc.

Or are the purists going to say, "paint the car the exact original color code" - well to that I say. I have not met a paint store/shop yet that can a.) mix the same can of paint twice and get the same color b.) when spraying the car the color shade can be affected by humidity, and a billion other factors. Now I am not trying to be some anal corvette guy but for some reason this car has me stumped. Hoping the Community here can offer up some assistance. Weigh in please.  

[Just 6T9 CHGR]

One on ebay now...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger-Charger-R-T-1969-69-Dodge-Charger-R-T-440-4-Speed-Dana-Mopar-Dodge-/260636501008?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3caf256410

[69 OUR/TEA]

Still debating on color. This Y4 looks so green, then outside it looks different/ok. No sun and outside, looks different again. All due to the metallic this I know. Sprayed a junk deck lid w 3 colors, '69 Gold Poly 22034 Y4 and 22807 a '68 color Med Gold and some other way off color.  Very small difference but enough to notice when comparing the two afore mentioned. The '68 color has less green, looks lighter and has more of a silver hue to it. After a detailed review of the recipe the only difference is the use of larger metallic. While I know this is my decision and I am sorry but pics just dont do jack when looking at colors. Curious if I could get some local guys up to the shop for their opinion on which color to go to? Free beer etc.

Or are the purists going to say, "paint the car the exact original color code" - well to that I say. I have not met a paint store/shop yet that can a.) mix the same can of paint twice and get the same color b.) when spraying the car the color shade can be affected by humidity, and a billion other factors. Now I am not trying to be some anal corvette guy but for some reason this car has me stumped. Hoping the Community here can offer up some assistance. Weigh in please.  

Been thru this same situation before with a Y4 69,but it was a dart.It was in 97 I was doing a 69 dart for someone and they also thought the orig color was not to their liking,so they had me update it to a newer year(90's at that time)gold that they liked better and yet somewhat would look like the orig color to most.I myself say stick with the orig color,and you are correct,it can be made numerous times and appear diff.I don't know what paint you are using,but in PPG's lineup of basecoat there is DBU,DBC,and their higher end called Global.If you had all three made in 1/2 pints and did test spray outs,you will see a diff in all three,then pick the one you like best.I prefer either DBC or Global myself.

[Jake]

Thanks, I think I may be in paralysis analysis. lol

[Vainglory, Esq.]

While I know this is my decision and I am sorry but pics just dont do jack when looking at colors. Curious if I could get some local guys up to the shop for their opinion on which color to go to? Free beer etc.

I'm in 612 and happy to come up and take a look.  I see you've got quite the stable out there.

[PocketThunder]

Here is a shot of the Y4. Trunk and underside is jammed.

So i met with Jake for lunch yesterday since he works near me, and he brought the deck lid that he had 3 colors of the gold sprayed out on and every one of them sure looked green to me in the sun.  In the shade they were green for sure.

My vote is for hemi orange.      

Or actually, omaha orange..       

[472 R/T SE]

I've never seen green in any Y4 car? 

A4 is a color I see green in, or F8? 

[Vainglory, Esq.]

Omaha orange!?  I sense some bias!

Maybe he needs a second opinion...

[nvrbdn]

when i was picking a color the kid works in st louis for a semi repair place. they had the coolest colors in their paint book.i drooled for days and came up with a burnt orange that goes kinda copper in the sun and redish in the shade. i love it. just do what ever will cause you to just stop in your tracks when you turn the corner and catch sight of your car. then you know you have the right color.

[Jake]

Gents, & Gals,

Help me decide a paint color. I have added a poll.  I am still perplexed on the color choice to paint the R/T. Here is the recap.  The Y4 Gold Poly is the original color and that is what the car is jammed with now. Floors underside, truck area etc. The Gold poly does have a hint of a green hue and is not the most attractive color as compared to the high impact cool colors. The color, due to the metallic changes so drastically from inside to outside and from sunshine to overcast it is tricky. I also RARELY see a Y4 Gold Poly, some call it Spanish Gold Metallic, on 69's I believe it is a one year only color. The car is a rock solid, never ANY rust, except for truck floor due to rear window leaking and or the gas tank pad holding water. The car came with a black vinyl top and was an R/T badge car.  Id like to put a black strip on it if I go with the Y4 just to tone the color down a bit. The car also came with a 6 -way seat and is an auto/AC car. All numbers match.

The alternative is to build another General Lee. This would be my 5th General build. My teenage daughters AND the wife are puling for a General. The plan is to shoot it orange, have some fun for 5 years of so and repaint it back to original someday. I obviously have all the decals and push bars, wheels etc to build a General.

So take a vote. The project is stalled due to my indecision. Help me with your input to get this project going again!

[UFO]

I would go with the orig color,as mentioned will stand out among the more common colors.
I know exactly what you are going thru.I have a F3 green charger.I notice the same situation with the hue changing depending on light conditions.

[bakerhillpins]

I'm in the original color camp too. Though if you did go with another color (up to you of course) I would stick with another 68 model year color.

I must say this pic of the 69 really highlights the body line. Never seen a pic that really shows it like that. 

[Jake]

Good feedback , thanks.