Marines

[charger_cody]

Just got done talking to the marine rucruiter. I am VERY nervous about going in within the next couple years. Anyone here in the Marines? Any tips for basic? Or anything else?

Cody

[klutch]

Move fast, be loud and do what your told when your told and you'll be fine.

[chargerboy69]

I would guess most if not all who joined were nervous too.  The night before going to MEPS before heading out, I was bunking with a guy who signed up with the Marines.  He was on the phone all night to his family crying how he changed his mind, and did not want to go.  

Here are a few tips to prepare you.  Run.  If you are not used to running, start now.  And then, run some more.   I would get use to running five to eight miles a day.   Push-ups, sit-ups and iron mikes.  I remember in basic, guys would put their feet on the upper bunk with their hands on the floor, and do push-ups that way.    You will not only have to prepare yourself physically, but mentally as well.  It is their job to break you down and build you back up stronger than you were before.  Good luck in whatever you decide.

[elacruze]

I've been working with the Army for two years now, except for 4 months with the Marines in Helmand Province, Afghanistan.

All I can say is, they get the job done every time, on time, never give excuses and they MAKE S**T HAPPEN. If you're not naturally motivated to keep moving at all times, look elsewhere. I've come to appreciate how elite they are compared to the rest of the services. They earn their right to be elitist and any other service who says otherwise must never have worked or fought next to them. They never fail to do more with less.

Oh yeah, if you're afraid to shoot people and get shot back at, forget it. They'd run in to a retreating Army unit and tackle them to take their ammunition.

If I was 18 again I'd join the Marines. I never even considered that when I actually was 18.

Eric

[twodko]

Cody,

I'll get the obvious out of the way first. If you have no direction right now and aren't ready for college joining the service, any of them, is a great way to build your future.
I enlisted in the Navy at 17 during the 'Nam, had to put in 6 years. It was the best decision I have ever made aside from marrying my wife. In hind sight I should have joined the Corps. I'm proud to have served but the Corps is a lifelong permanent part of who you are and what you stand for. There is nothing like it in any of the other services branches except the Navy Seals.
If you have seen the movie "The Three hundred" then you saw the ancient precursor of the modern Marine Corps. If you haven't get it and watch it.
Joining the military at any time is an anxious decision. During wartime joining can be even more so.  When bad shit happens we send our Marines because they are "the biggest badest in the valley" and they don't quit - ever.
Klutch and ChargerBoy69 told you the gospel - start to run now and and run everyday along with sit-ups, push-ups, crunches etc. The harder you work now the less painful bootcamp will be. From the first day you plant your feet in those yellow footprints on the deck listen more than you speak, speak loud, move fast and always help your buddies. Boot is a bitch make no mistake but you'll be there with guys who will help you get through it and they will expect you to do the same for them. On the last day of boot when you've earned your eagle-globe-anchor and you march past the reviewing stand it will be a day you'll never forget.You're a smart mature kid Cody, you'll do well in whatever you choose. There are leaders, followers and people who just need to get out of the way! Step up and lead Cody, find out who you are and what your made of. I'm proud of you little brother. Let us know what you decide. Good luck.

Tom

[Dans 68]

Good advice. Knowing now what I did not when I was 18, and I wanted to enlist, I would join the Marines. No hesitation (well, maybe a little.  )

Dan

[Ranger Max]

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[charger_cody]

Well I talked to the recruiter 3 days ago and had a LONG talk. I have 2 choiced except one of them is a little more than one choice, if that makes sence. I could either,
1) Go to a community college for 2 years then transfer to a university for computer programing. (which is free for me)

or

2) Enlist in the military. I don't HAVE to go into the marines. I could go Air Force or anything else. (Which is also free) I'm not going Army for many reasons.

I want to do SOMETHING with computers. I am very computer smart. And I LOVE airplanes. It has been a dream to work on planes/jets. (programming, building etc..)

Thanks for all the opinions but please, keep em coming.

Cody

[twodko]

Hi Cody,

Smart to have an extended talk with the recruiter, it can only help you decide which direction to take in the next chapter of your life. If you have a free ride to JC and then university there is only one choice. Forget the military unless its something you want. Go to college dude! You can always joined the military afterwards.........as an officer and pretty much write your own ticket!

I regret not taking the pre-military college route because military life is soooo much better as an officer. Like RangerMax said, aviation would be a great choice be it Marines,Air Farce, Navy, Coast Guard etc. The mud and weeds get real old real quick if you're a ground pounder. I went Naval Aviation as a jet mechanic in squadron VT-86. It was a good fit for me at the time but I didn't stay in aviation when I got out.

Bottom line Cody - with a BS in computer science the world is your oyster! Keep us posted.

Tom

[Troy]

I started out in college as an engineer, then into aviation as a pilot, then computer science. I still work in IT but my first love is aviation. You can go to college to "work on" planes but, realistically, you just need the certificates (takes about 6 months I think). You'll get a LOT more experience in the military - *if* you can manage to lock down that particular assignment. I tried to go into the military when I was younger after high school but the recruiters kept pushing me away from aviation and into the medical field so I gave up. I'm happy with my life now but I think I could be just as happy flying and playing with aircraft. I'm not much of a fan of sitting behind a desk. If you can go to college free I'd recommend taking advantage of that for all it's worth. Get into a co-op program and only take assignments where you can do real work - no tech support or babysitting printer type jobs. The opportunity for advancement is huge compared to aviation.

Troy

[Khyron]

Get into Marine Aviation community.....dont be a Marine ground pounder crying for air support.
They always do.

LOL

[GreenMachine]

   Well, since I live in your area and work in aviation, I'll give you my   . I work at Tinker, and most everyone I work with is either ex-military or got their A&P certificate (airframe and powerplant) at a Vo-Tech. Of the ex-military, most are Air Force or Marines. It seems that most of the Air force guys are retired (20 years) and the Marine guys just did their 4 years. All seem glad they are out, but have plenty good of stories to tell. I coudn't enlist when I was younger due to "reasons I won't discuss", so eventually I went through the A&P Vo-Tech course which is 6 hrs. a day for 18 mos. (1950 hrs.). Either way, you will be working with your hands until you retire unless you have a degree. There are plenty of guys that do retire "working with their hands" and don't have any regrets (the money is good), but you have to ask yourself if that's what you want.

[Silver R/T]

Just do what John Cena does, oh wait a minute...he's NOT a marine lol

[mikepmcs]

Here's the answer, right here.

http://www.usna.edu///homepage.php

[mauve66]

i would tell anyone into computers to join the air force first , Navy 2nd, (i was Army), the things you do there will better prepare you for life AFTER the military, doesn't matter if its 4 years after or 20 years after, they have the most up to date equipment (especially computers) and they take better care of their troops than any other service
don't be surprised if they are still 2-4 years behind on computers due to bidding on contracts but at least they aren't 5 -8 years behind like the other forces. some examples......

when i was in Germany in 87 we where using a Wang computer that we thought was the cats meow, when i got back to the states that stuff was 4 years past its prime in 87.
the newest baddest wheeled vehicle in the Army had a Detroit V8 in 1986 that was the pinnacle of power in 1982

the Marines are by far the best force but that is also the first to go anywhere with the least amount of equipment to back them up and the most losses by nature

another option for you is the reserves, every force has them, you can still be deployed but still get ALL benefits including FREE education after basic /advanced training

[elacruze]

Cody,

If your ASVAB score is 85 or better, consider Navy Nuclear. I sent our daughter's boyfriend that direction, there is no better money in the military and hardly as good civilian-which BTW is 6 figures after you get out with an operator certificate for Nuc Power. He's been in less than two years and already makes more than I did most of my life. It's a posh job with an easy career before retirement, and enormous financial possibility. We were fortunate that his recruiter was a Nuke, maybe stop in the Navy recruiter and ask about the bonuses if you make the program. Nukes leave boot at E-3 pay rate, and he got a $10k bonus after his first segment of school. I think he gets like $50k signing bonus if he takes a second tour.

Eric

[Rolling_Thunder]

The USAF is a bitch to get into currently...     Ask me how I know -  I am wrapping up my B.S. and scored a 96 on the ASVAB    

If you want to play with computers I suggest against the Marines...    I bought into a lot of their stuff back when I was getting out of highschool and am glad I did not enlist at that time. I am now finishing up my B.S. and on my way to USAF in a communications field (TACP) - I did a lot of research and the Marines could simply not give me what I wanted...     unless you plan on going into a special community (Force Recon) I suggest against it.

The Army...   well...     they will take anyone...  

Navy...    great schooling and generally offer more things that will benefit you later in life -  easier PT

Air Force...   most difficult to get into...    easiest PT (Except CCT, TACP, and PJ)...    but excellent schooling

Don't forget that the US Coast Guard is also an option - travel a lot, good schooling, you won't get shot at (unless you're on a seisure team)


Just be aware...   any military branch only has to garentee you a field of MOS - not an exact MOS unless you go in as a reserve...    so just remember - once you sign your ass belongs to them.

Remember not everyone will be a hard c*ck door kicker....    that is about 10% of all military...        I have nothing but respect for Marines, one of my good friends is currently Force Recon with 1st out of Oceanside, CA....     however I realized that what he does is NOT what I want to do...        

Signing bonuses...   will generally be broken up into sections - don't get hung up on dollar amounts...   Marines generally give no more than $10,000....    USAF is telling me $25,000...    big difference there....     

If you're balls are made of iron you can go to any branch and request Ordinance Disposal...   they are gods among men but I don't even think I could do that job...    USAF EOD also get tech training in nuclear weapons.   


A friend of mine was in about 15 years ago and he was a Nuke sub tech and made very good money...   




On the other hand -  if you go to college and get your degree you can go as an officer and have a lot more options...    if you want to play with computers that may be a better option... 

[charger_cody]

  Well, since I live in your area and work in aviation, I'll give you my   . I work at Tinker, and most everyone I work with is either ex-military or got their A&P certificate (airframe and powerplant) at a Vo-Tech. Of the ex-military, most are Air Force or Marines. It seems that most of the Air force guys are retired (20 years) and the Marine guys just did their 4 years. All seem glad they are out, but have plenty good of stories to tell. I coudn't enlist when I was younger due to "reasons I won't discuss", so eventually I went through the A&P Vo-Tech course which is 6 hrs. a day for 18 mos. (1950 hrs.). Either way, you will be working with your hands until you retire unless you have a degree. There are plenty of guys that do retire "working with their hands" and don't have any regrets (the money is good), but you have to ask yourself if that's what you want.

I sat down and read every post word for word and I like every bit of it. Honestly guys if I can avoid going into the service I would LOVE too. Greenmachine I really appreciate the input because I have friends and family that work at tinker (computer engineering part of it) that have given me tips. I still have questions. About this A&P certificate, what are the pros and cons of missing out of college for this then going back to college? Is it worth the time?

Inputs from everyone please.

Cody

[69charger440]

  Well, since I live in your area and work in aviation, I'll give you my   . I work at Tinker, and most everyone I work with is either ex-military or got their A&P certificate (airframe and powerplant) at a Vo-Tech. Of the ex-military, most are Air Force or Marines. It seems that most of the Air force guys are retired (20 years) and the Marine guys just did their 4 years. All seem glad they are out, but have plenty good of stories to tell. I coudn't enlist when I was younger due to "reasons I won't discuss", so eventually I went through the A&P Vo-Tech course which is 6 hrs. a day for 18 mos. (1950 hrs.). Either way, you will be working with your hands until you retire unless you have a degree. There are plenty of guys that do retire "working with their hands" and don't have any regrets (the money is good), but you have to ask yourself if that's what you want.

I sat down and read every post word for word and I like every bit of it. Honestly guys if I can avoid going into the service I would LOVE too. Greenmachine I really appreciate the input because I have friends and family that work at tinker (computer engineering part of it) that have given me tips. I still have questions. About this A&P certificate, what are the pros and cons of missing out of college for this then going back to college? Is it worth the time?

Inputs from everyone please.

Cody

Well cody,

I just got out of the Marines just over two years ago!! I went in as a Aviations Structure Mechanic. I loved the job as a structures mechanic!!! But , the marines DO NOT give you an Airframes & Powerplant CERT. They give you the necessary schooling to understand and work on aircraft. Then when your out of school it is up to you to expand and further your knowledge!! But, you really dont need a A&P. I was in the Marines for 5 years and got didnt even have to apply for a job. People came looking for me!! I had a job lines up 7 months before I got out. And I make more then most people my age!!! But as stated by others I would recommend going to college and get your Bachelors degree. You can get a Degree in Basket weaving, just get one and go in as an OFFICER. You will make a lot more money month to month, and you will be calling the shots for the enlisted members! You can also become a pilot that way! ENLISTED guy will never fly an aircraft in the Military, only Officers!! Boot camp is a joke if you decide to go enlisted, dont even worry about it one bit!! Just do what your told and do it the best you can!!! Boot camp has gotten really soft in the last couple years!! Might as well do it with the Airforce!!!       OH AND IF YOU OWN A CHARGER------- DONT SELL IT!!!! KEEP IT IN STORAGE!!!! if you decide to go in!!!  That was one of my biggest regrets.... POOR 70 CUDA

[Rolling_Thunder]

Boot is getting pretty lax....     the USAF standard has remained constant (not high) but the Army and USMC have gone downhill...   my friend stated that there are guys exiting boot with maybe a 190 or 200 PT score...     The army is graduating RANGERS with 180+ PTs...     AIRBORNE no longer requires 6 pull ups...         COMBAT DIVE still requires the 6 pull ups I believe...     but no branch's standards is where they used to be...     Different kind of wars now-a-days   

[69charger440]

Boot is getting pretty lax....     the USAF standard has remained constant (not high) but the Army and USMC have gone downhill...   my friend stated that there are guys exiting boot with maybe a 190 or 200 PT score...     The army is graduating RANGERS with 180+ PTs...     AIRBORNE no longer requires 6 pull ups...         COMBAT DIVE still requires the 6 pull ups I believe...     but no branch's standards is where they used to be...     Different kind of wars now-a-days   

It has nothing to do with war!! It is Mothers of America, complaining about the children being treated unfairly. Been going on for some time now. As long as there are mother complaining they will continue to get easier in boot camp!!

[mauve66]

Boot is getting pretty lax....     the USAF standard has remained constant (not high) but the Army and USMC have gone downhill...   my friend stated that there are guys exiting boot with maybe a 190 or 200 PT score...     The army is graduating RANGERS with 180+ PTs...     AIRBORNE no longer requires 6 pull ups...         COMBAT DIVE still requires the 6 pull ups I believe...     but no branch's standards is where they used to be...     Different kind of wars now-a-days   

It has nothing to do with war!! It is Mothers of America, complaining about the children being treated unfairly. Been going on for some time now. As long as there are mother complaining they will continue to get easier in boot camp!!

part of the reason i left in 94, too many babies crying about their "rights" and nobody would give me the "right" to shoot them when down range

[69charger440]

Boot is getting pretty lax....     the USAF standard has remained constant (not high) but the Army and USMC have gone downhill...   my friend stated that there are guys exiting boot with maybe a 190 or 200 PT score...     The army is graduating RANGERS with 180+ PTs...     AIRBORNE no longer requires 6 pull ups...         COMBAT DIVE still requires the 6 pull ups I believe...     but no branch's standards is where they used to be...     Different kind of wars now-a-days   

It has nothing to do with war!! It is Mothers of America, complaining about the children being treated unfairly. Been going on for some time now. As long as there are mother complaining they will continue to get easier in boot camp!!

part of the reason i left in 94, too many babies crying about their "rights" and nobody would give me the "right" to shoot them when down range

Yep, The marines a few proud whiners!!! Agree totally!

[hemi68charger]

Cody, if you're into computers, see what the Air Force can offer you. All Air Force bases/units/etc, for the most part, have a Communications Squadron. Like the rest of the world, they are connected as well and rely on computers for day-to-day tasks. Also, the Predator program is growing and growing and of course, again, computers are there..... I've been in the Air Force in either an Active Duty or Guard/Reserve capacity for over 20 years now and counting. I agree with everyone here that joining the military was the best thing I've ever done, with my wife and kids as the exception to that. I was a punk kid at 23, skipping Community College classes in Palm Beach, Florida to play with my cars and hang out. I FINALLY wised up and realized I was going NO WHERE FAST !!!!!   If I ever wanted to accomplish my dreams of a college degree and owning a Daytona like my Dad, I'd better changed.

I joined the Air Force in '87, got out after Desert Storm and went immediately to Houston Community College. Two years later I graduated with an AS in Pre-Engineering with a 4.0 (award of highest graduating Veteran). At the same time, I joined the Air National Guard and have seen the world. Some very cool places ( Hawaii, Denmark, Destin  ) and some not-so-cool places ( 2 tours Iraq ). I wouldn't change a thing !!!!

Now, I have my family, BS degree (Geophysics), a good job, still having fun in the Air Force ( Afghan, here I come I bet ) and yes, finally a Daytona similar to the one my Dad owned.

VERY LONG reply short.......... Do it !!!!!  Any branch and don't forget about the Coast Guard, it's a regular branch of the Department of Defense and need computer geeks too ( just kidding on the geek part  )

Troy

[charger_cody]

Cody, if you're into computers, see what the Air Force can offer you. All Air Force bases/units/etc, for the most part, have a Communications Squadron. Like the rest of the world, they are connected as well and rely on computers for day-to-day tasks. Also, the Predator program is growing and growing and of course, again, computers are there..... I've been in the Air Force in either an Active Duty or Guard/Reserve capacity for over 20 years now and counting. I agree with everyone here that joining the military was the best thing I've ever done, with my wife and kids as the exception to that. I was a punk kid at 23, skipping Community College classes in Palm Beach, Florida to play with my cars and hang out. I FINALLY wised up and realized I was going NO WHERE FAST !!!!!   If I ever wanted to accomplish my dreams of a college degree and owning a Daytona like my Dad, I'd better changed.

I joined the Air Force in '87, got out after Desert Storm and went immediately to Houston Community College. Two years later I graduated with an AS in Pre-Engineering with a 4.0 (award of highest graduating Veteran). At the same time, I joined the Air National Guard and have seen the world. Some very cool places ( Hawaii, Denmark, Destin  ) and some not-so-cool places ( 2 tours Iraq ). I wouldn't change a thing !!!!

Now, I have my family, BS degree (Geophysics), a good job, still having fun in the Air Force ( Afghan, here I come I bet ) and yes, finally a Daytona similar to the one my Dad owned.

VERY LONG reply short.......... Do it !!!!!  Any branch and don't forget about the Coast Guard, it's a regular branch of the Department of Defense and need computer geeks too ( just kidding on the geek part  )

Troy

Thanks Troy!!!!!! I really appreciate the help. And a touching story about you wanting the same car as your dad made my day. I hope I have kids that want to build and save chargers too!!! What I think I have decided to do is I think I am going to take advantage of the free college. The service will still be there when I get out. Not only that, a good majority of the people I have asked said that they would MUCH rather have a degree then be in the miltary. So I really appreciate it guys at DC.com. Good to know I have friends on here that I can rely on!!!! 

Cody

[hemi68charger]

Cody, if you're into computers, see what the Air Force can offer you. All Air Force bases/units/etc, for the most part, have a Communications Squadron. Like the rest of the world, they are connected as well and rely on computers for day-to-day tasks. Also, the Predator program is growing and growing and of course, again, computers are there..... I've been in the Air Force in either an Active Duty or Guard/Reserve capacity for over 20 years now and counting. I agree with everyone here that joining the military was the best thing I've ever done, with my wife and kids as the exception to that. I was a punk kid at 23, skipping Community College classes in Palm Beach, Florida to play with my cars and hang out. I FINALLY wised up and realized I was going NO WHERE FAST !!!!!   If I ever wanted to accomplish my dreams of a college degree and owning a Daytona like my Dad, I'd better changed.

I joined the Air Force in '87, got out after Desert Storm and went immediately to Houston Community College. Two years later I graduated with an AS in Pre-Engineering with a 4.0 (award of highest graduating Veteran). At the same time, I joined the Air National Guard and have seen the world. Some very cool places ( Hawaii, Denmark, Destin  ) and some not-so-cool places ( 2 tours Iraq ). I wouldn't change a thing !!!!

Now, I have my family, BS degree (Geophysics), a good job, still having fun in the Air Force ( Afghan, here I come I bet ) and yes, finally a Daytona similar to the one my Dad owned.

VERY LONG reply short.......... Do it !!!!!  Any branch and don't forget about the Coast Guard, it's a regular branch of the Department of Defense and need computer geeks too ( just kidding on the geek part  )

Troy

Thanks Troy!!!!!! I really appreciate the help. And a touching story about you wanting the same car as your dad made my day. I hope I have kids that want to build and save chargers too!!! What I think I have decided to do is I think I am going to take advantage of the free college. The service will still be there when I get out. Not only that, a good majority of the people I have asked said that they would MUCH rather have a degree then be in the miltary. So I really appreciate it guys at DC.com. Good to know I have friends on here that I can rely on!!!! 

Cody

If you get your Bachelors degree 1st and still wish to go in, look into getting your commission as an officer.

Troy

[twodko]

Cody,

Everyone here has offered wise and sage advice, several coming from us vets who've been there.

Go to college, its the most important decision of you life.

Tom

[hemi68charger]

Cody,

Everyone here has offered wise and sage advice, several coming from us vets who've been there.

Go to college, its the most important decision of you life.

Tom

Since I didn't have any free college before hand, I went 1st. Now, I used my GI Bill for mine AND I have enough free tuition through Texas' Veterans Programs to get my Masters..  (yeah, right !!!!!  @ 45 with a 3 and 9 yr. old, don't think so )  

PS: if you go to school beforehand and it's free,,,,,,,DON'T BLOW IT !!!!!!  STUDY !!!!!  PASS !!!!!!  and of course, relax during Spring Break........ 

[chargergirl]

Cody as I've said here before I raised a ton of boys...the way that the men on this site feel about you comes shining through...you have a good head on your shoulders. I have two boys Army, one Air Force, and I am married to a Navy man. They have all loved serving, or are even currently serving. It isn't easy, nothing worthwhile ever is. Therefore as a mom, and co-member of this site I am telling you...if you have an opportunity to go to college for FREE GRAB IT! You are young and can sign up at any time to serve your country! You will be able to go in as an officer...much easier to get that rank through college education than time served. Then use your GI bill to "finish" your education...Masters Degree or even Doctorate...there are no grants during that stage. Air Force is overloaded with people...Army and Marines have the toughest tours...on the ground in the heat. OK they have great stories...like being chased in a hot zone by a camel spider. Or coming home from first tour with a permanent dent in his left pectoral muscle from two sniper bullets...thank GOD they were on the downsweep and he had his Kevlar on. (I cried and threw up for 4 hours). Navy seems a good choice for flight and technology...they use it a lot. Cool stuff on those ships and they eat VERY well. See the world and don't unpack...not a bad gig. Go to school FIRST!

[twodko]

Cody,

She's speaking the gospel, your BS in computer science is waiting for you!

Tom

[charger_cody]

College it is!!!!! Thanks people I really appreciate the help. I look at all the people on this site and wonder, "man how can they have 2 or 3 children and STILL afford to completely rebuild a charger." I grew up in a house of 2 children, we arent poor but we arent wealthy, we get by. No father until I got to the age of 15 and my sister moved out the year before. So things are getting better. The charger is just put on hold. But I REFUSE to sell it. No one will be able to peel it from my dewad hands. Unless its for a 1st or 2nd gen =p=p

Cody

[twodko]

Outstanding Cody!

Believe me, after college when you begin your career your income will rise each year. Restoring our cars isn't something the great majority of us can do all at once. Most tend to do what the budget will allow. Find a way to store/shelter your car, save your pennys and resto/rebuild as you can. Good luck.

Tom

[chargergirl]

See...good head on your shoulders.

[teamroth]

I'll tell it to you exactly the way I would say it to my son or daughter. Go to college first. If you have the desire and still believe you have what it takes, then join as an officer. I am a very understated person by nature, don't really like to brag about a whole lot, but there is something in that basement that always starts churning when I think about my time in the Corps.I miss it dearly. I did 8 years and left at a time when I wasn't having too much fun. Just recently I have re-connected with almost every marine that I served with. I held multiple MOS's through my time. I went in as an infantryman, and earned the designation of TOW Gunner(0352). I also held a secondary MOS of machine gunner(0331). I was lucky enough to have served with a mechanized reconiassance unit. I got to do tons of cool shit from blowing up tanks to calling in air support, among many other things.

I went on to join Security Forces battalion upon my re-enlistment.  I can break it down fairly easy for you.
If you are infantry, you set yourself up to be a Cop on the outside. If you are intelligence, you will write your own ticket.
If you are a mechanic, you can get out and be a mechanic, but that seems less rewarding to me as you could do that without going in the military. There are Communications and electronics fields available, and I know people who also had jobs waiting on them before they got out.

(elacruz)All I can say is, they get the job done every time, on time, never give excuses and they MAKE S**T HAPPEN. If you're not naturally motivated to keep moving at all times, look elsewhere. I've come to appreciate how elite they are compared to the rest of the services. They earn their right to be elitist and any other service who says otherwise must never have worked or fought next to them. They never fail to do more with less.

Oh yeah, if you're afraid to shoot people and get shot back at, forget it. They'd run in to a retreating Army unit and tackle them to take their ammunition.




I really appreciate that you noticed that, sometimes the other sevices think they are equal, I can assure they are not.
I do respect all the services, but it just isn't the same.

I am trying to be respectful, but clearly everyone here has an opinion, and I'm not sure I like some of the turns this thread took along the way, but I digress, think long and hard before you sign on the dotted line.

It would be one of the most rewarding experiences of your life, but it is not an easy one.

Also, if your scores are high enough they will give you a shitload of money for college. Just don't expect that you are going to have much time to go while you are in. Especially with the current conflicts that we are engaging in.

Most of the time when I was in, there were no re-signing/signing bonuses, so if you are told there is one, make sure it's in your contract.


(69charger440)Yep, The marines a few proud whiners!!! Agree totally!


I resent that remark in it's entirety. Not sure where you get off running your soup cooler about Marines being whiners. If you've done what they've done then maybe you have some room to criticize, until then I don't think you should.

Troy,Chargergirl and many others have given great advice. I'm not necessarily trying to offer advice, just sharing what I've learned through the years.

Oh and take a look at this letter to a sailor back in 01. Be advised, not Navy friendly but funny as hell!

http://failblog.org/2010/01/19/letter-fail/

[chargergirl]

That letter sounds like the crap that goes on at my table when they, my men, are all here together...nothing is sacred but me.

[teamroth]

That letter sounds like the crap that goes on at my table when they, my men, are all here together...nothing is sacred but me.

Chargergirl,
I was the first Marine in my family, everyone else was Navy. I used to bust my uncles balls about 500 sailors going on a float and 250 couples coming back...

[chargergirl]

That letter sounds like the crap that goes on at my table when they, my men, are all here together...nothing is sacred but me.

Chargergirl,
I was the first Marine in my family, everyone else was Navy. I used to bust my uncles balls about 500 sailors going on a float and 250 couples coming back...

And your just saying how it starts...

[charger_cody]

Thanks chargergirl!!!!!! I really appreciate it. And i'm trying pretty hard to listen to when the elderly peolpe have to say about what I should do. Because they KNOW how to bring in bucks now.

Cody

[chargergirl]

Elderly...owww dang Cody! I gotta laugh cause in my head...my mom is elderly...she's in her seventies...but baby...yeah turning 50 this year was a bit tough...elderly...dang

[elacruze]

the elderly peolpe
Cody

Ouch! 

[charger_cody]

elderly as in 32 years older than I am!!! 

Cody

[chargergirl]

Elders is a cool word...Elderly is not...sorry it took a bit to get back to ya...had to put my glasses on, put my teeth back in...and...never mind...ROTFLMAO...my kids would be loving this!

[charger_cody]

Elders is a cool word...Elderly is not...sorry it took a bit to get back to ya...had to put my glasses on, put my teeth back in...and...never mind...ROTFLMAO...my kids would be loving this!

Haha chargergirl.  you seriously just made my night 10x better. 

Cody

[twodko]

That was pretty cool.

Tom

[89MOPAR]

Just remember if you go to any military service , if you want something Specific you have to be firm with the recruiter, by firm i mean get it in writing.  The military can always move you around to their needs later, but the recuiter is usually trying to fill a few positions they have shortages in, and he/she will attempt to steer you in that direction.
   And once they've invested money training you in your chosen field, the chances of transfeering to a totally unrelated job are small.

[teamroth]

Cody,
You could top it off by calling her maam...lol   

[teamroth]

Just remember if you go to any military service , if you want something Specific you have to be firm with the recruiter, by firm i mean get it in writing.  The military can always move you around to their needs later, but the recuiter is usually trying to fill a few positions they have shortages in, and he/she will attempt to steer you in that direction.
   And once they've invested money training you in your chosen field, the chances of transfeering to a totally unrelated job are small.

Great points that I/others may not have mentioned. I will say this though, my recruiter never lied to me, not once. He just left a few things out...lol
Like the possibility of getting stationed in the middle of nowhere. Trust me 29 palms is the middle of nowhere...

[draftingmonkey]

Great points that I/others may not have mentioned. I will say this though, my recruiter never lied to me, not once. He just left a few things out...lol
Like the possibility of getting stationed in the middle of nowhere. Trust me 29 palms is the middle of nowhere...

What's wrong with 29 Palms. I spent a lovely 12 months there getting to know all the snakes, scorpions, cactus, rocks, sand on a first name basis.  The Corps was great to me.  Why, my DI's in boot camp held a nice celebration for my 21st birthday by letting me do 20 sit-ups for every year.  Great guys.  Of course that was a few years ago when you could still get an inspiring rack whooping at midnight from your favorite junior DI.

Hey, chargergirl I'm in the same club, 50 this year.  As for elderly, what say we ship our dentures to Cody's mom and let her bite him with them in absentia for us 

[twodko]

I'll include my partial plate too.

Tom

[sixty8charger]

Cody, I am on active duty. USMC since 2003, and I tell you this, I am looking forward to completing my  20years. Not just for me, but my family.  The Marine corps is a different breed. Every service has its type of people. I love the corps. Call me crazy, but becides the fact that on the 1st and 15th, I know I am getting paid, when me or my wife is Ill or injured, our medical is taken care of. I have never paid over $3 for a med visit and perscription for my wife, and have spent 0 for myself. That right there is huge, especially in the current economy.    The brotherhood of the Marine corps is unlike any organization! I am a Sgt (hopefully SSgt this time next year) the leadership opportunities you have 24/7 is incredible. The feeling of pride every time you wake up put on that uniform... Or the lucky chance you meet a veteren at a bar and share a beer and personal bond that not many Americans will ever experience is something I never take for granted.

Take everyones opinion on here "with a grain of salt". The service is going to be what you make it, just like any occupation. Sometimes you have to look beyond the amount of money you make, live within your means (and that is easy to do, hell my wife and I own a home, a truck, a car, motorcycle, and I still get to build my 68... All I never had prior to enlisting).

My two cents..  Call me if you ever want an honest opinion. PM first

[draftingmonkey]

The service is going to be what you make it, just like any occupation. Sometimes you have to look beyond the amount of money you make, live within your means

So right.  I my family had folks in every branch at one time, USA, USAF, USN and CG.  I was only Marine.  We've all talked over the years and it really is what you make it. Not easy at times but one of the most rewarding of professions and something you can always look back on with pride.  If you are willing to put out the extra effort, in the Corps, at least in my time, you had the chance for faster promotions.  I made E-4 in just short of 2 years and E-5 by the end of 3. And, as my fellows Marines have said there is and always will be a special pride involved.

Good luck with whatever path you choose to take.

[twodko]

Copy all that. The military like any job is what you make of it. The opportunities in all branches of the service are there for the taking. The more initiative you show the more things will come your way..........most are good, some are not. They amount of effort you put out is directly proportional to what comes your way and more options will be open to you. However, don't be the guy who volunteers for everything. When its time to burn the crappers you'll be the one they always come to! Needless to say, don't be a slacker, pull your own weight or the guys you serve with will beat your ass.
I'm former Navy and very proud of my service but I'll tell you this........when you earn the eagle, globe and anchor its an honor like no other.

Tom

[teamroth]

when you earn the eagle, globe and anchor its an honor like no other
Tom

Thanks Tom.
That was an incredible sentiment.
S/F
Thad

[Rolling_Thunder]

Agreed -  I have only been told this second hand from my friend but he said that after the crucible when you are given your EGA - that will be one of the rare times you, as a marine, will cry -   it will not be looked down upon by anyone - it is something that is earned in sweat and blood -   

[twodko]

Semper Fi teamroth.

Tom

[chargergirl]

My youngest boy, Sgt in the Army, used the VFW for his reception. He wasn't old enough to drink at his own wedding...however the idea that there is no other stronger than the bond of service is correct. There were men there that had lived through hell and were upset that he served on the first wave in Afghanistan and yet couldn't have a drink at his own wedding. I can't tell you where this happened but they made sure he had the BEST champagne money could buy. Years later I was called on the carpet for taking a personal call from the same son...life is tough when serving. I kept him from losing his mind...it cost me my job. I can always find another job. Get the best education you can and then serve...it is just as honorable...just please promise me that when the "kid" that has been there for a year tells you it's a live fire area...believe him...don't order him to cross cause it's a short cut...and you know!

[HITMAN 149]

HOOOOOO-RAAAAAAAA!!!
i went in with 3 of my buddy's at the end of the summer (had to have some fun first!! hehehe)
right after we graduated high school. i was in for 2 yrs.. got out early on a medical discharge. but still served honorably!! hahaha
i agree if your not going to college or have a good job lined up after high school... a stint in the service is a great idea!!!
i also AGREE about going in for something that you can use after u get out!!! not that there is anything wrong w/ being a "grunt".... but there aren't to many job openings out there for "grunts" in the civilian /private sector!!! lol
and YES>>>> START RUNNNNNNNING.... CARDIO IS KING IN THE MILITARY, AND ANY OTHER TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT ACADEMY!!! LOL there was a huge muscle head college football kid in my room at the police academy, he could lift a VW but couldn't run half a block!!! ohhh the troopers killled him!! lol hahahaha
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI!!!
LCPL USMC 89-91

[ACUDANUT]

 Hitman, How did you pass the Police Academy when you got Discharged on Active Duty on a Medical. ? 

[HITMAN 149]

hey bro...
i was discharged for a pre-existing condition... but nothing that would disqualify me for the police academy...
the police dept doesn't have the same medical policies as our government!! lol

[chargergirl]

Police dept. doesn't make you hump 80 lbs of equipment for 20 miles. Just got to be able to cimb, jump and get to donut shop in record time.

[HITMAN 149]

hahaha YUP!!!! mmmmmmm donuts!!! is there anyting they can't do!?!?!? hahaha