Look what my car sold for at BJs

[Belgium R/T -68]

If I ever need to sell my cars I will surely bring them over to the US, overhere I think getting 50K for a charger is rare nomatter how nice it is.

Per

[mauve66]

now those guys in ohio or illinois or where ever with the rusty shell of an R/T are justified in thinking their car is worth 26K......................

[1969chargerrtse]

I think overall it was a good thing for the 2nd gen market.  Yes?

[Hemidoug]

NO! I don't think it was a good thing for the hobby as a whole. It was a good thing for the seller, but not for the hobby. I don't like to see over inflated prices....they cause more problems then they solve...think of all those ripoff artists out there rejoicing....and pumping the prices up another 20k for a rustpile 'cause they saw a 440 auto car go for 100k.....just my .02.....

Good for the seller....yes
Good for the hobby....NO

[Charger-Bodie]

The key thing that is good for everyone in the hobby is :

If these cars are worth something , then its worth it for companies to reproduce parts for them. They are not going to make stuff to lose money. Whay do you think there are so many more parts available now?

[1969chargerrtse]

The key thing that is good for everyone in the hobby is :

If these cars are worth something , then its worth it for companies to reproduce parts for them. They are not going to make stuff to lose money. Whay do you think there are so many more parts available now?

Very good point because I remember when nothing was out there for the  Mopar cars and it sucked. I guess there are good and bad things in this.

[Hemidoug]

The key thing that is good for everyone in the hobby is :

If these cars are worth something , then its worth it for companies to reproduce parts for them. They are not going to make stuff to lose money. Whay do you think there are so many more parts available now?

Ok..I'll give you that. Now can you name one part that will be re popped when a plain Jane 440 4v auto car sells for 100K and not be re popped if the same car sold for 50K?

Now....how many FOR SALE signs are being modified or reserves on Ebay that are a little higher, or junks that will sit because the owner saw a 69 R/t 440 auto car sell for 100K.

I'll bet point number 2 is closer to reality then point number 1.....and if that is the case, how is that "good" for the hobby?


I think...and this is just MY opinion.....I think money is looking for a place to hide right now, given our current "situation". It looks like prices have risen since last year, but it isn't across the board. I'm sure the reason the car sold at what it did speaks to it's quality restoration. I don't think the "general" populace sees that. All they see is 69 Charger and 100K....and that's kinda my point.

Point number 2 is it was the economy that made the market what it is today....that includes the re pop market....If people like us stop buying the parts will dry up. Guaranteed.

[1969chargerrtse]

All and all I don't think this one crazy sale will effect the hobby. Most people know it was not the norm. Let people try to ask crazy prices. You still have a buyers market and they will shop elsewhere. I would.

[Charger-Bodie]

A rising tide lifts all boats.

[Hemidoug]

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Exactly right...

[Belgium R/T -68]

I can only see it positive that it really is possible to get most money back from a very serious restoration, don't see the connection to why rustbuckets should
increase in value because of that?

Per

[Hemidoug]

I can only see it positive that it really is possible to get most money back from a very serious restoration, don't see the connection to why rustbuckets should
increase in value because of that?

Per

You've never shopped in the States...LOL. You get to see all kinds.

[mauve66]

when i first moved out here a guy had a black primer 1st gen with a poly 318 and replaced all the dodge/charger badges with harley badges and thought cause he saw a hemi car sell for 50K that he should get 27K for his car, i tried to explain the difference between a CORRECT car and an everyday car and he said i was crazy

i too am glad for the seller, especially when it reflects his business, but it doesn't reflect the hobby as a whole until alot of similar cars start selling for that, i don't see that happening, and for someone with a 318 or 383 car to start thinking "i'll get 70K out of mine"  is absolutely ridiculous

[Silver R/T]

Well, this is not a Chevy or Ford...

[Belgium R/T -68]

I can only see it positive that it really is possible to get most money back from a very serious restoration, don't see the connection to why rustbuckets should
increase in value because of that?

Per

You've never shopped in the States...LOL. You get to see all kinds.

I know I'm sometimes a wishful thinker but once in a while it's depressing when you calculate the total of your cost for the resto and you will maybe get back the half.
That's why it's nice when a car like that sells for 100K, then the rest of us can keep those dreams about a sucessful sale even if it will never happen in real life.

Per

[TruckDriver]

The "E" body cars though, are selling for half of what they did 2 or 3 years ago. The just struggled to get $82,000 for a #'s matching AAR Cuda that was previously owned by a Chrysler Exec.

[Hemidoug]

That's not a bad price for that car...yellow isn't for everyone. The AARs and TAs were only in the 60s a little while ago.

[68charger383]

I think they pump nitrous oxide into the bidding tent.

I remember Bruce Willis was sellling a few cars muscle cars last year at a Peterson Car Museum Bonham auction, including his 69 charger. He has a nice 67 firebird 400/4spd which did not sell, didn't break $25K for bidding. I tried to buy it after the fact, but they wanted $28K plus a 10% fee for the auctioneer. The car had an estimated value of $30K.
http://www.rexfeatures.com/set/812830

That car appeared a year later at the BJ auction in October 2009 and sold for $49K. This goes to show that just being at BJ really can inflate the price of a car. The car sold for twice as much as the highest bid and at almost double the estimated value for the car.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/archivecarlist.aspx

[bull]

Exactly....There is a story behind that one. Two guys battling it out? I don't know, but 100K seems a bit much.

Maybe it's too much to most of us but obviously it's not too much for everyone because someone paid it. This is kind of a moot debate isn't it?

Why is the highest price ever paid for a "run of the mill" 440 4v auto R/T moot? I admit the devil is in the detailed restoration, however you must admit that was a bellweather sale by leaps and bounds...Moot? There isn't anything moot about that sale, from the price that was paid to the quality (as gaged from the sale price) of the car. THAT is E body territory....

That's not really how you started this discussion. Yes, I think it is remarkable that a non-Hemi Charger sold for more than $100k but IMO it's moot to discuss whether it was worth $100K because it actually sold. If someone was asking $100k and no one was willing to pay and yet the seller refused to drop his price I could see there being a debate about the worth but once it sells, that's what it's worth.

[bull]

*Price Includes 10% Buyers Commission

ouch....no thanks

congrads on the sale though

Really? You wouldn't sell your Charger for $110k if you had to pay $11k in commission? I would. I'd even give them my favorite pen to write the check for $99,000.

[gtx6970]

The "E" body cars though, are selling for half of what they did 2 or 3 years ago. The just struggled to get $82,000 for a #'s matching AAR Cuda that was previously owned by a Chrysler Exec.

Some are doing quite well imo . I present  Exibit A .
This is a car I did maybe 5 years ago. When I did the car I change the top to white and changed the black bumble bee stripe to a white longitudinal stripe . Mike Groff whom I sold it to, changed them  back to the OE look. and replaced the dash pad - Both looked good .

Apparently quality cars will still bring good money in a troubled economy. I watched it go thru and was in awe to say the least.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=940&aid=304&pop=1

[66FBCharger]

 

[daytonakid]

I bought the car 6 years ago off moparts. It was a solid car but needed everything. Since I'm the owner of my shop my car always came last. Customers cars take priority. That being said it took 4 years. We finished it in April of 08. I put 6 miles on it since.

[charger_cody]

Welcome to Barret Jackson's Classic Auto Auction. We get stupid people to buy cars thousands of dollars over price. I think Barret Jackson's has alot of people brainwashed on how much their cars are worth.

Cody

[68charger383]

The "E" body cars though, are selling for half of what they did 2 or 3 years ago. The just struggled to get $82,000 for a #'s matching AAR Cuda that was previously owned by a Chrysler Exec.

Some are doing quite well imo . I present  Exibit A .
This is a car I did maybe 5 years ago. When I did the car I change the top to white and changed the black bumble bee stripe to a white longitudinal stripe . Mike Groff whom I sold it to, changed them  back to the OE look. and replaced the dash pad - Both looked good .

Apparently quality cars will still bring good money in a troubled economy. I watched it go thru and was in awe to say the least.

http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=940&aid=304&pop=1

Wasn't he having trouble getting a buyer at $35K on here/Moparts and dropped it down to $32K. Wow, once again the BJ effect popped the car all the way to $62K