Daytona-Outside-Pole-Position-of-the-1970-Daytona

[rob-dirt]

heres a neat peice just listed on ebay  a real peice of history !
break out the spare cash  boys
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Dodge-Charger--500_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27aec2a0a2QQitemZ170435715234QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

[C500]

I love it.  If I was ever going to own a Daytona, it would be a race version like this one.

[Aero426]

You can't believe everything you read.    The history on this car has been revised quite a bit in recent years to make it appear more favorable.     It did spend a lot of time on the 1970 auto show circuit.  It is my opinion along with others, that the car did not actually race as a Daytona.   

Cotton Owens sold the car for just over 800k in 2005.   The next owner sold it last fall for 224k to the current seller.   

[learical1]

"Baker began his NASCAR career in 1959. In 1970, he became the first driver to ever exceed 200 mph (320 km/h) on a closed course. The same year, with a victory at the Southern 500, he became the first NASCAR driver to win the same race at the same venue as his father."

Lee Petty won the 59 Daytona 500.  Richard Petty won the 64 and 66 Daytona 500s.   

[68X426]

It was the Pettys first, then the Bakers. Buddy won at Darlington in 1970 and father Buck won at the same track in 1953. Lee and Richard had both won the 500 first. Easy to verify.

BUT GUESS WHAT, the Pettys did it way earlier than the 500. Lee and Richard had both won at Hillsboro (Occoneechee Speedway) much earlier. Lee won there in 1950 and Richard won there in 1960. So that's ten years before the ad claims it.

The Bakers were both great racers. Buck Baker was likely the better. In a four year span he was champion in 1956 and 1957 and second in 55 and 58. Between the two they had 65 wins.

[learical1]

Maybe they're trying to say that Buck and Buddy were the first father-son combo to win the Southern 500?

[daytonalo]

Sounds cheap if its legit

[Highbanked Hauler]

 There is a picture  somewhere of  the no. 6 car with the nose a lot closer to the track than that one.

[Highbanked Hauler]

   500K and it looks like they painted the inside and underside with Chevy trunk paint and clear coated the outside.

[1969chargerrtse]

"Cotton Owens sold the car for just over 800k in 2005.   The next owner sold it last fall for 224k to the current seller."


Ouch.

[chargerboy69]

"Cotton Owens sold the car for just over 800k in 2005.   The next owner sold it last fall for 224k to the current seller."


Ouch.

Thats what I thought too.  I bet his wife is still bitching about that one.

[nascarxx29]

http://www.gogearhead.com/69Daytonaracecar/index.html

[69 rt]

Rob,
You have a nice piece getting finished now. I plan to go up to the shop tonight to see the progress.

Stenton

[westcoastdodge]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Outside-Pole-Position-of-the-1970-Daytona-500_W0QQitemZ170435715234QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item27aec2a0a2

[Aero426]

"Cotton Owens sold the car for just over 800k in 2005.   The next owner sold it last fall for 224k to the current seller."


Ouch.

Thats what I thought too.  I bet his wife is still bitching about that one.

Which wife, his new one, or his old one?   

The guy who sold it for 224k lost a lot of money on many cars at the auction last fall.   This one was not the biggest hit.   When asked about it, he was quoted as saying, "I've had worse days".     Granted, this is a guy paid a million bucks for Paul McCartney to play at his future ex-wife's 50th birthday party.   

[wingman(22)]

I spoke to the owner at Canepa and he said they took the car and refinished it. They disassembled some of the parts and painted them. He also did some work on the outside of the car. I don't know why because the car was original. They painted part of the roll cage, removed the carpet, and resprayed the underside.
I have a lot of pics before the car left Cotton's shop and when I saw this one I called them to see if it was a clone. It looked too new to be the one that sold for 800k. The owner of Canepa told me it was the same car and he did the above work to it. What a shame to change a piece of history like that.

Bill

[Aero426]

I spoke to the owner at Canepa and he said they took the car and refinished it. They disassembled some of the parts and painted them. He also did some work on the outside of the car. I don't know why because the car was original. They painted part of the roll cage, removed the carpet, and resprayed the underside.
I have a lot of pics before the car left Cotton's shop and when I saw this one I called them to see if it was a clone. It looked too new to be the one that sold for 800k. The owner of Canepa told me it was the same car and he did the above work to it. What a shame to change a piece of history like that.

Bill

Gosh it had a couple of rough edges, but sure didn't need that.    I don't know why someone would mess with that stuff.

[1969chargerrtse]

"Cotton Owens sold the car for just over 800k in 2005.   The next owner sold it last fall for 224k to the current seller."


Ouch.

Thats what I thought too.  I bet his wife is still bitching about that one.

Which wife, his new one, or his old one?   

The guy who sold it for 224k lost a lot of money on many cars at the auction last fall.   This one was not the biggest hit.   When asked about it, he was quoted as saying, "I've had worse days".     Granted, this is a guy paid a million bucks for Paul McCartney to play at his future ex-wife's 50th birthday party.   

Very interesting.   I always wondered how the rich handled those problems?

[1969chargerrtse]

It's amazing to look at all the those race pictures and then stuffed far back on the left side of the firewall is this Itty bitty, little, tiny, thing called a MASTER CYL.