White Superbird

[xx29440charger]

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[A383Wing]

Linky? Item #??

[rob-dirt]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Plymouth-superbird-SUPERBIRD-1970-PLYMOUTH-SUPER-BIRD-VERY-ORIGINAL-DETAILED_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem33594df3e2QQitemZ220541613026QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

look,s like a good deal for the $ $ $ 

[hotrod98]

That car has been for sale forever. I wonder why it hasn't sold.

[Dukes69]

For $90k I want a carpet kit!   

[rob-dirt]

For $90k I want a carpet kit!   

                                                              DID YOU READ THE ADD
    WILL HAVE NEW CARPET BEFORE DELIVERY(THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FLOORS        your in luck 

[1969chargerrtse]

Man I wish I had 90K.  I like it. 

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[maxwellwedge]

Completely wrong resto - A lot of money for a 4BBL car you would have to totally re-do ...my 

[A383Wing]

Completely wrong resto - A lot of money for a 4BBL car you would have to totally re-do ...my 

What's completely wrong? Enlighten please 

[tan top]

Completely wrong resto - A lot of money for a 4BBL car you would have to totally re-do ...my 

yeah i as thinking along them lines also  ,


if it was such an original car ,  its lost all its originality now !!  should of left it as it was !  ,
  still an awesome car !1 but not correct !!
remember reading in a mopar mag years back ,  a real low milage white bird  ,  6 thousand miles , was at a used car dealer or something , because the paint original quality was poor , the  dealer agreed  to repaint it , as part of the deal so the customer would buy , the body shop painted over every thing under the hood , clips bolts & done a crap masking job also , & blacked out the underside , all its originality was lost !  , sorry guys for going a bit off track

[maxwellwedge]

Well - the entire bottom of the car for starters. Every bit of the front suspension and steering is painted black....cheap, quick and dirty backyard stuff. The wheelwells aren't undercoated. The bottom is painted the same as the top. There are extra holes drilled for "new" home made grounds. When I see these shortcuts you can bank on the fact there are dozens of other shortcuts taken. I have seen this 100's of times over the years. Lot's more - don't feel like typing that much. These are just a few things - none of which anyone should accept on a 90k car. 50-60k maybe...not 90k for a U code.

[gtx6970]

Forgive my ignorance as I don't really follow the wing car values very close.

But,,,,Are the Daytonas worth that much more , that a running driving matching numbers Bird isn't worth mid 80's .but yet a Daytona project will in bring the upper 70's and up.

I know the car is far from correct, but theres a lot or people who could care less about correct. But overall  it's a not a bad looking car , even if it is white . The column auto and bench seat would be my first choice in one, just not white. Wingcars are WAYYYYYYYY out of my price range so it's moot point,,,,But if I had the cash !!!!!!!!

[maxwellwedge]

Completely wrong resto - A lot of money for a 4BBL car you would have to totally re-do ...my 

yeah i as thinking along them lines also  ,


if it was such an original car ,  its lost all its originality now !!  should of left it as it was !  ,
  still an awesome car !1 but not correct !!
remember reading in a mopar mag years back ,  a real low milage white bird  ,  6 thousand miles , was at a used car dealer or something , because the paint original quality was poor , the  dealer agreed  to repaint it , as part of the deal so the customer would buy , the body shop painted over every thing under the hood , clips bolts & done a crap masking job also , & blacked out the underside , all its originality was lost !  , sorry guys for going a bit off track

TT - I agree - I have seen too many very nice survivors get ruined forever by woodchucks. There should be a stiff penalty for these people....make them drive a Lada or Skoda for 5 years or something.

[maxwellwedge]

Forgive my ignorance as I don't really follow the wing car values very close.

But,,,,Are the Daytonas worth that much more , that a running driving matching numbers Bird isn't worth mid 80's .but yet a Daytona project will in bring the upper 70's and up.

I know the car is far from correct, but theres a lot or people who could care less about correct. But overall  it's a not a bad looking car , even if it is white . The column auto and bench seat would be my first choice in one, just not white. Wingcars are WAYYYYYYYY out of my price range so it's moot point,,,,But if I had the cash !!!!!!!!

Bill - In production numbers alone the Daytona is a tougher find. Like I said earlier - I bet you dollars to donuts (whatever that means  ) that judging by the amount of shortcuts I can see in only a few small pics, there are dozens more we can't see. This is the usual quicky rattle-can resto. I bet there is bondo galore and who knows what kind of body work/prep was done before paint. Short-cuts lead to more short-cuts. I would not be busting on it if it was 50-65k....but 90 is all the wood plus for a 4bbl Bird. You can get a very nice clean original car (un-screwed with) for a few bucks less than that.

[gtx6970]

just out of pure curiosty, whats decent U code bird project worth today

[maxwellwedge]

just out of pure curiosty, whats decent U code bird project worth today

You are trying to corner me now aren't you?  


90k   

[66FBCharger]

The rallye wheel paint color looks kind of funny to me. Does it look funny to anyone else? It looks more gray than silver.

[hemi68charger]

Very nice looking Superbird, and white's probably my favorite color on a 'Bird. Bill, don't ask me why, just is.. 

Jim, I agree on the diluting of originality if it was a survivor beforehand. I don't recall seeing this car before in it's unrestored condition, but feel your pain on restoring survivors. That's why I pained myself to keep Whitey, my former survivor '71 Charger R/T, as nice and original as possible. Believe me, there were plenty of shows where people asked, "Why don't you paint that? You can see the primer coming through the paint." Ah well, to me, I knew what it was.......

I also agree, if there's shortcomings in obvious places, then there are likely more in covered-up/painted places. Take for example. The car had an expensive restored/reconditioned wiper motor, but next to it is a generic-over-the-counter ballast resistor... 

Troy, (DB)

[moparstuart]

 i WOULD TAKE IT   

[41husk]

It seems like you can'y get any one to give you there Bird

[moparstuart]

It seems like you can'y get any one to give you there Bird

I WOULD BUY IT DRIVE THE HELL OUT OF IT AND BE PROUD OF IT .  I dont need a musuem piece 

[gtx6970]

just out of pure curiosty, whats decent U code bird project worth today

You are trying to corner me now aren't you?  


90k   

No , not at all.
I fully agree the car is far from anything resembling correct. And being a white , column auto, 4 bbl car is the cheapest bird you can get, But still I kinda figured @89K would be a good deal for a nice driver . I doubt one could buy a project, and restore it for this money.

alls good 

[hemi68charger]

@89K would be a good deal for a nice driver.

[FJ5WING]

Well - the entire bottom of the car for starters. Every bit of the front suspension and steering is painted black....cheap, quick and dirty backyard stuff. The wheelwells aren't undercoated. The bottom is painted the same as the top. There are extra holes drilled for "new" home made grounds. When I see these shortcuts you can bank on the fact there are dozens of other shortcuts taken. I have seen this 100's of times over the years. Lot's more - don't feel like typing that much. These are just a few things - none of which anyone should accept on a 90k car. 50-60k maybe...not 90k for a U code.

I dont want to add any fuel to your fire as you seem pretty worked up over this car. but whens the last time you saw a superbird sell in the $60K range?

all the things you mentioned is why its priced at 90. several members have questioned why it hasnt sold with it appearing to be very nice. I feel its because nobody wants to "fix" the resto.

the cars looks pretty good to me.

once again Im not out to burn anyones ass!

[BigBlockSam]

$89000 is a 3 bedroom house with a pool in florida.   

[A383Wing]

$89000 is a 3 bedroom house with a pool in florida.   

Hurricanes included at no charge

[FJ5WING]

and all the new Haitians you can fit into one room. Im glad Im in the Northeast for once.

[Dukes69]

For $90k I want a carpet kit!   

                                                              DID YOU READ THE ADD
    WILL HAVE NEW CARPET BEFORE DELIVERY(THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE FLOORS        your in luck 

Nope, I can't read . . . public schools.     My point is, put the damn carpet kit in and then post your $90k car forsale.  I guess if you have the $90k to drop on it, you can probably read.   

[69_500]

I dont want to add any fuel to your fire as you seem pretty worked up over this car. but whens the last time you saw a superbird sell in the $60K range?

all the things you mentioned is why its priced at 90. several members have questioned why it hasnt sold with it appearing to be very nice. I feel its because nobody wants to "fix" the resto.

the cars looks pretty good to me.

once again Im not out to burn anyones ass!

Just an side note here but there have been a few Birds that I've seen and heard of in the past 12 months that have changed hands in the area of 60-70K that were driveable cars. There was even one down at Talladega that had been purchased recently for a fair amount under that price range. Very presentable car if you just wanting a driver car that one could hop in and enjoy without worries. They are out there. This is coming from the guy who does not follow the Superbirds nearly as closely as I do the Daytona's and C500's too.

[maxwellwedge]

Hi All - I was at the B-J carnage the last few days. I was having a tough "year" last week and probably got a little more worked up than I should have. 

There were a lot of weak cars there this year and for the 3rd year in a row our Mopes got hammered (pun sort of intended  ). I would put the bondo to silicone ratio as 1:1 this year!

Had fun though!

[hemi68charger]

...There was even one down at Talladega that had been purchased recently for a fair amount under that price range. Very presentable car if you just wanting a driver car that one could hop in and enjoy without worries...

I remember that car, very nice indeed for the purchase price, especially one in which you could jump in and go....

[moparstuart]

Hi All - I was at the B-J carnage the last few days. I was having a tough "year" last week and probably got a little more worked up than I should have. 

There were a lot of weak cars there this year and for the 3rd year in a row our Mopes got hammered (pun sort of intended  ). I would put the bondo to silicone ratio as 1:1 this year!

Had fun though!

was the white hemi bird with the 260k ?

[maxwellwedge]

Hi All - I was at the B-J carnage the last few days. I was having a tough "year" last week and probably got a little more worked up than I should have. 

There were a lot of weak cars there this year and for the 3rd year in a row our Mopes got hammered (pun sort of intended  ). I would put the bondo to silicone ratio as 1:1 this year!

Had fun though!

was the white hemi bird with the 260k ?

Do you want to get me in the soup again??   

[moparstuart]

Hi All - I was at the B-J carnage the last few days. I was having a tough "year" last week and probably got a little more worked up than I should have.  

There were a lot of weak cars there this year and for the 3rd year in a row our Mopes got hammered (pun sort of intended  ). I would put the bondo to silicone ratio as 1:1 this year!

Had fun though!

was the white hemi bird with the 260k ?

Do you want to get me in the soup again??  

I can read between the lines ,  thanks 

[gtx6970]

Anyone know if the Bird in this thread  is the one that came out of Dayton Ohio within the past couple years ?

a friend of mine is looking for a bird , and would actually prefer just a decent driver

[rob-dirt]

Anyone know if the Bird in this thread  is the one that came out of Dayton Ohio within the past couple years ?

a friend of mine is looking for a bird , and would actually prefer just a decent driver

after reading this topic sound like a driver car is worth 50 or 60 ? if you find 2 let me know

[70Sbird]

WOW, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think the car is probably worth that. Sure there are priceless originals and over-restored trailer queens that we all drool over, but I believe that there is a large segment of wing cars that are still driver quality useable cars. This is a numbers matching, original drivetrain car that appears to be in decent shape with all of the Superbird specific parts still present. Are there errors in it's restification? sure, but the car looks to be able to be driven and enjoyed as-is. My car was a twin to this car other than color, Mine is B5 blue. My original drivetrain is long gone, I now have a 4-Speed and bucket seats and a Dana. I drive my car everywhere and enjoy every minute of it. In better times I have been offered more for my car that the asking price of this car today. I will agree that car values are in the tank comparred to a couple of years ago, but I seriously doubt that you could duplicate this car for the money. I like it, But the color would be the only deterrent to me, but a good repaint is pretty expensive, and I wouldn't want to "ruin" the car with a color change.
Not all cars will be showpieces, some of us still drive the sh1t out of them!

[hotrod98]

I think that there are deals to be had and there may be even better deals in the future. I can't say what we paid for the Black Ice car, but let's just say that Tom was happy and we were very happy. It's not matching numbers and has had almost no rust other than the usual lower quarter stuff. It drives great and as soon as I get some fresh paint on it, it will look great. A year ago it was looking like we might not ever own one, but the economy that worked against Tom, worked for us.  I hate that for Tom, but it doesn't change the fact that Sandra and I now have something that we've wanted for quite a while. And, it's not an all original car or show queen so we feel like we can go out and drive the fool out of it.
I say if you're looking for a driver in the less than 80K range (very possibly much less than 80K), you just might find it. It kind of depends on how long the economy stays in this slump. We may even buy another one as an investment if this trend continues.

[moparstuart]

WOW, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I think the car is probably worth that. Sure there are priceless originals and over-restored trailer queens that we all drool over, but I believe that there is a large segment of wing cars that are still driver quality useable cars. This is a numbers matching, original drivetrain car that appears to be in decent shape with all of the Superbird specific parts still present. Are there errors in it's restification? sure, but the car looks to be able to be driven and enjoyed as-is. My car was a twin to this car other than color, Mine is B5 blue. My original drivetrain is long gone, I now have a 4-Speed and bucket seats and a Dana. I drive my car everywhere and enjoy every minute of it. In better times I have been offered more for my car that the asking price of this car today. I will agree that car values are in the tank comparred to a couple of years ago, but I seriously doubt that you could duplicate this car for the money. I like it, But the color would be the only deterrent to me, but a good repaint is pretty expensive, and I wouldn't want to "ruin" the car with a color change.
Not all cars will be showpieces, some of us still drive the sh1t out of them!