Factory 383 Magnum 68 Charger RT?

[ChargersETC..ETC..]

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,29953.0.html

My car 1968 charger also has Engine Code : 710
383 4 bbl auto on column with air cond


Any idea what the engines correct id term is other then 383 4bbl?

[Charger-Bodie]

In 68 H= 330 horse 383....in 69 H=335 horse 383

[ChargersETC..ETC..]

In 68 H= 330 horse 383....in 69 H=335 horse 383

Thats good to know. Do you have a vintage engine referance manual or such that decodes that and is it apply to all chrysler products for 1968 or 1969 or is it brand specific like Dodge-Plymouth -or Chrysler  related vin/engine decodeing referance.


Whatever I have looks like the 1968 Hi Performance 335HP 383 4 bbl with the unsilenced or smaller air cleaner with no snorkel  
But I guess the air cleaner could have been changed so I guess it's best to go with whatever the buildsheet says it is unless........the plant put the wrong engine in my car??? Which I dought because it's all #s matching.

[6bblgt]

In 68 H= 330 horse 383....in 69 H=335 horse 383

In '68 "H" = 335hp in most Road Runners & Super Bees, 330hp in the rest of the B & C-bodies. ** all have a Carter AVS carb ** turquoise engine

In '69 "H" = 335hp in most Road Runners, Super Bees & some other B-bodies (mostly with 4-speeds). ** all have a Carter AVS carb ** orange engine
------------------------------------------------------ 330hp in the rest of the B & C-bodies.  ** all have a Holley carb ** turquoise engine

In '70 "N" = 335hp in RM, WM, XP, XH, BS, JS & some other B & E-bodies (mostly with 4-speeds). ** all have a Holley carb ** orange engine
------------------------------------------------------ 330hp in the rest of the B & C & E-bodies. ** all have a Carter AVS carb ** Chrysler blue engine

Air cleaners are a totally different & endless arguement 

[ChargersETC..ETC..]

So basicly a Charger has yet to be documented with the 335Hp engine.Because wasn't a option for chager. But yet the " H "  letter of the vin can decoded to 330-335 hp simpley based on the Brand alone IE= 1968 Roadrunner 335 hp 383 4bbl but 1968 charger can only be 330 hp 383 4bl .

All that makes perfect sence but what about engine code 710 on the broadcast sheet ? What does that id internal engine parts ?


Question - Is there something about the air cleaners that would make the 5 hp diffrence ?

That would seem possiable to me only I would think the dual snorkle would make more power.

[Dans 68]

This has been addressed in other threads, but it basically comes down:

(1) an extra point of compression
(2) larger cam & better valvesprings
(3) different intake/exhaust manifolds
(4) windage tray

The block, heads, crank, rods were the same.

http://www.dodgecharger.com/forum/index.php/topic,34882.msg380779.html#msg380779

Dan

[ChargersETC..ETC..]

This gets confuseing don't it 

My car doesn't have any HP stampings on the block  so I take it that it's 330HP 4 BBl Charger (with a non hp block) . I don't know the assembly plant right off I guess in order for it to be a 335hp engine it would have had to come from whichever plant assembled and installed the hi performance engines and have a Hp stamp which original Charger factory 383's aren't supposed to have . I see why it's believed that - 335 Hp 383 4bbl engines were NEVER! factory equipped in 1968 Codge Chargers .

Thanks for the great info ! At least I know Not! to refer to it as a 335 Hp Magnum 383 4bbl Hp block Charger like I've seen advertised elsewhere

[triple_green]

My 68 charger is an H code engine. I got the car and it was very original. It is a late 68 build (May). I believe that somewhere in the new year they switched from the bigger aircleaner with the snorkels, to the unsilenced design. My car has no HP stampings, but the engine is original to the car. Partial VIN on rear top of engine and on tranny where they meet.

I asked the original owner about the pie plate. He says he never remembers one.

I run a 383 four barrel pie tin on my car, just so people don't have to ask me the eingine size at shows and cruizes.

3X

[69CoronetRT]

In 68 H= 330 horse 383....in 69 H=335 horse 383

In '68 "H" = 335hp in most Road Runners & Super Bees, 330hp in the rest of the B & C-bodies. ** all have a Carter AVS carb ** turquoise engine

In '69 "H" = 335hp in most Road Runners, Super Bees & some other B-bodies (mostly with 4-speeds). ** all have a Carter AVS carb ** orange engine
------------------------------------------------------ 330hp in the rest of the B & C-bodies.  ** all have a Holley carb ** turquoise engine

In '70 "N" = 335hp in RM, WM, XP, XH, BS, JS & some other B & E-bodies (mostly with 4-speeds). ** all have a Holley carb ** orange engine
------------------------------------------------------ 330hp in the rest of the B & C & E-bodies. ** all have a Carter AVS carb ** Chrysler blue engine

Air cleaners are a totally different & endless arguement 

To muddy the waters even more...H code 68 and 69 RRs and Bees with A/C have the 330 horse turquoise engine. 1968 A body H code cars have a 300 horse engine; 69 A bodys have a 383-HP engine rated at 330 horse. The H VIN code only tells you the car has a 383-4bbl. It does NOT tell you the horsepower rating. The only way to document which engine your car recieved is via the broadcast sheet or a 69+ Lynch Road fender tag.

[Ghoste]

And as far as a 383 powered RT goes, maybe it's true that your should ever say never.  But it's also true that you should always say PROVE IT!

[68_R/T_Eric]

I'd certainly need to see documentation on that. Window sticker, build sheet, fender tag, etc.

I know there guys who had the dealer modify the cars before delivery (six pack setups, etc.) so I could agree see that. It just wouldn't make sense to pay the extra money and take the hit on the insurance to put a 383 in an R/T. It would make more sense to put the R/T equipment on a 383 car.

Troy

Any modifications done to factory ordered cars back then were done by the dealers after delivery.  Dealers had factory options they could choose from but only within the paramaters of what was available per the make and model specified by the factory.  The only engine option for an R/T was either the 440 or 426 - period!!  Speaking from experiences of friends back then who tried to order options that were not specified - it didn't happen!!  The factories were not interested in making a bunch of one of a kind knock offs that no one else had.  It would have created all kinds of headaches for warranty work, legal issues, etc. etc.  The dealers were tightly controlled by the manufacturers and what they offered and were willing to make.  The manufactures basically dictated to the dealers what was available, what they could offer and how things were going to be configured - not the other way around.
Now, maybe if the guy was some Chrylser executive and wanted something different - it might have happened - but even then, I doubt it.  the mindset of most people back then was take what was offered and be satisfied.
(From Old Guy - typing on my son's computer )