2011 Dodge Charger spy photos...

[Ghoste]

The smaller opening is beginning to get it.

[RD]

how about this off of what Finn did

[MoparManJim]

how about this off of what Finn did

I don't know about him, but to me you guys are getting warmer now.. but still needs alot of work though. Try removing the deviders between the grill side and the head light and flating the top of the hood and fenders area across some what so that it all matches up. Then you guys would be really warm then. 

[Finn]

how about this off of what Finn did

I don't know about him, but to me you guys are getting warmer now.. but still needs alot of work though. Try removing the deviders between the grill side and the head light and flating the top of the hood and fenders area across some what so that it all matches up. Then you guys would be really warm then. 

Ohhh I dig the R/T!

I like where you're headed Jim, give me a couple minutes Im going to see if I can try it.

[Finn]

Hmm....to me flushing out the grille makes it seem more like a new mustang or an old nissan skyline.
Thus far Im liking the smaller grille with no crossbars, which would be an easy fix if somebody made a body kit.
This is going a bit beyond my skills but perhaps hideaway headlights like this: http://autoanything.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/2010-dodge-charger-rendering-1.jpg?w=500&h=375

[MoparManJim]

Man, I wish I knew to do photochop. I would nail it right on the dang head. You all are so dang close..  

Okay let me see if I can explain here.  

Finn, your on the right track man, and close but yet not on close to the mark yet though.

Using Finn's bottom photo here for me to explain here.

Take the top of the grill, head lights area, and take the hood and fenders and pull the center of the hood very front portion back alittle that it looks something like the old chargers. The heads for them to be hide aways would be very easy. Now under moving down to where the bumper is, go down so far. Just like 4 inches of bumper, the rest set back at least 1 inche, then pull the rest of the bottom valance area back in alittle giving it alittle bit of a slat.

Now after picturing that, you would probably notice a charger front end appearing at you.    

[Finn]

Ok Im not sure I got the bumpers right and I didnt mess with the hideaways yet but let me know if Im still on the right track.

[MoparManJim]

Ok Im not sure I got the bumpers right and I didnt mess with the hideaways yet but let me know if Im still on the right track.

Your doing good so far, take the top of the hood front edge and pull it back afew inches yet. That should live a nice cross edge on the front top area. 

The bumper, down on the bottom where it looks like you added a lip there? good. But if you can pull it back in maybe 1 inch more,  now just under there take and tilt the whole lower valance area back under  . You should just about nail it on the looks.. but if you really want to nail the looks, work on the fenders as well and bulge them out alittle over the fender wells and if you can move the lights outwards about a inch. Like I said before, for them to get this car to look like a charger the front end needs alot more work done to it.   

[Black Charger]

That front end looks sweet! By the way, there are several aftermarket companies out there that offer grilles and other body pieces for the LXs that look better than stock.

[Finn]

Headlights are still giving me trouble but Ive gotta get some sleep before school tomorrow so I wanted to post one more. Moving the valance back made a big difference imo.



Oh and the fenders are slightly flared out too. I couldn't get them to show flare on the top too well. 

[Ponch ®]

Headlights are still giving me trouble but Ive gotta get some sleep before school tomorrow so I wanted to post one more. Moving the valance back made a big difference imo.



Oh and the fenders are slightly flared out too. I couldn't get them to show flare on the top too well.  

The last few 'chops make it look like a weird Camaro/Mustang/Challenger hybrid.

I do like the first one you did with the blacked out smaller opening. It reminds me of the GRIP tuning front end for the current Charger. I'm sure they'll have something like that for the new car once it comes out.

[MoparManJim]

The last few 'chops make it look like a weird Camaro/Mustang/Challenger hybrid.

I would like to point out afew things that you must have over looked.   

Look at the bumper area, you will notice on the sides that Finn had shuck the bottom in (might be hard to see amoung all that black) making a bumper line. Plus if you look close at the front fenders they look some what like what the 2nd chargers does  . The grill area is look okay, but could use more work though. as the front grill area and lights area  needs to be straight across alittle more. Now, if the grill area was recess back in alittle like all the 2nd gen chargers had it would look alittle better. Push the side areas where the head lights are at out all the way. Take the curve that the front end has and push it out flat almost but with just a slight curve effect to it. You would then have a resemblance of a 2nd gen charger. Now take the lower valance.. and where Finn has it lightly tilted at take that and tilt it alot more back under. That's the problem with these new chargers, they don't have no style and no looks at all of their roots. When I said they needed to do alot more work on the front end to give it the looks I was not joking around. 

With them giving the car the sides and tail and the hood the looks they goofed by not doing something about the front end area to give it the looks. That was the main part of the car. You want to talk about something looking weird, look at the charger right now, they got 3/4 looking nice but the front is off big time.. now that looks weird. It looks like Dodge cross bread two kind of cars with the newer coming out. It has the looks 3/4 of the way of a charger but the 1/4 looks nothing like a charger though but rather the dodge trucks front. It looks as if Dodge is trying to cross bread them. 

[MoparManJim]

I did some looking around here for afew photos, remember when I said back not long ago that these new  chargers front ends has the look of a turtle face that a charger a face? take a look at these link's and see for yourself. To me they have alot in resemblance to the two. The old chargers was know for there fish mouth grill, I guess we call the new chargers front turtle heads?     

http://www.wildherps.com/species/T.ornata.html , http://www.waynet.org/waynet/spotlight/2004/040705-turtle.htm

[TheGhost]

Too cool.

I'm sure I can find some similar pictures of 2nd and 3rd gen Chargers, Bull...

[Ghoste]

You might find a couple but I'll bet it's waaaaaaaaaay harder.

[TheGhost]

Not really.  I believe there's quite a long thread on this site with those pictures.  I'll have to find it later.  Right now, I gotta get some sleep.  Gotta work early tomorrow morning.

[Ghoste]

For every 2nd gen Charger you find that has been ghetto'd out I'll bet there are three or four of the current version that have been pimped.  "Long" thread on here or not.

[bull]

Not really.  I believe there's quite a long thread on this site with those pictures.  I'll have to find it later.  Right now, I gotta get some sleep.  Gotta work early tomorrow morning.

Yea, really. From start to finish it took me about three minutes to find those pictures above and post them. Posting a link that's supposedly on this site does not reflect all the time it took people to find the pics. Just Google "bling Dodge Charger" or "Dodge Charger pimp" and see how many goofy 06-10 pimp wagons you get compared to any messed-up classic Chargers.



Anyway, the fact that so many people here are still digitally redesigning the car in their spare time speaks volumes to me. It's all moot until they dump the LX platform. Hopefully at that point they'll either get it right or drop it altogether.

[ACUDANUT]

 for shezzle my nizzle.

[Bigun426]

The current Charger is German influenced and looks it. Maybe the Italians will get it right.

[Ghoste]

I'm not sure that is a good thing.

[TK73]

The current Charger is German influenced and looks it. Maybe the Italians will get it right.

The Germans should have left it to Americans ad the Italians can stick with their 2-seaters.

Didn't either one learn anything in 1945?

[Brock Samson]

 Lets give the Italians credit for a classic sense of design, they have done a pretty decent job since the early days of running water and I'd rather go to any Italian showroom for any product then German, Japanese or even a Scandinavian one...
Ferrari and Alfa are a much better fit then Mercedes. I always thought Alfa as the Italian MOPAR.
Until the hard points are changed, overhangs are lengthened  and hidden headlights are brought back I'd pretty much abandon all hope of a really Retro Charger redesign... And with the world design regulations being what they are you can forget about any of that.
I find it particularly irksome that the country that beat the best hardware the Axis could muster has handed over the Auto production and design lead to them. it all went to hell in a hand basket around the early '70s, when you think about the BMW 2002 Honda  (Z) "civic" and Toyota corona of 1969. it begins to make some sort of sense. Light weight and a sense of balance being the key feature that won out.
I think the guy running Fiat is doing a pretty good job some decisions are simply being made for world economic and marketing reasons.

[Ghoste]

I think it was less about those cars being superior in any way than it was a reaction to the OPEC manufactured gas shortages.  My personal opinion of the late 60's thru 70's foreign cars is that they were mostly crap (it's a personal opinion).  The gas shortage caught the Americans without anything to meet that challenge.  We started to reluctantly drive the little cars to save fuel and it gave those companies the cash influx and dealer network they needed to really get established over here.  The domestic automakers reaction to the loss of aforementioned cash was not to, build a small car of their own (and no, I am not counting the Vega or the Pinto) but instead to build their lines more cheaply in order to make up profit.
They only had to let the quality slide for a short time to do irreparable harm and now today far too many people still think of domestic as crap and foreign as perfection in steel.  But I don't think the early Civics or Coronas were much to brag about.
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[Brock Samson]

 The small, space efficient and economical three box or "Mini" sized hatchback were a totally neglected market niche the so called compacts of the day (the Dart, Nova, Falcon and AMC American) were at least one size larger and heavier built to accommadate v-8s and the Pony cars that sprang from them... the BMW 2002 and Datsun 510 & 240Z  were poised to sell in ever increasing numbers and mostly were unharmed by the 5 MPH bumper Regs. that loaded up the Lbs. while the V-8s were strangled by the NOX regs.
Detroit still suffers from "bloat" to this day. and I maintain that the Charger and even the Challenger are at least 500 Lbs. overweight. but that is only my opinion held by few others no doubt.