2011 Dodge Charger spy photos...

[TylerCharger69]

I'm still waiting on my Charger (When it gets to the showroom I'll trade my GT):

Now...i can live with this one...even though it's  four door....its somewhat concealed...but this a a much better design

[Black Charger]

While we're talking about Mustangs, think about this: The ever-popular 1979-1993 Fox bodies shared absolutely no design cues with the classic 1964-1973 Mustangs whatsoever. Yet, you don't hear the Mustang crowd badmouthing it. That car has found an entirely different base of enthusiasts than the old ones. You might say it carved its own niche. The same things could be said about the LX Charger. There are several LX clubs around the country that hold their own shows, cruises and even have specific vendors that cater to them. Understand that we also share those clubs with the Magnum, 300 and Challenger. Whether the LX Charger has anything in common styling-wise to the old ones or not, its hard to deny the fact that it has found a loyal fan base with an entirely new generation of enthusisats. By the way, on the LX boards we have plenty of folks who own both a classic Charger and a new one. Most all of them will tell you that its pointless to compare the new with the old because they're entirely different cars for entirely different times.

[Mike DC]

  
I agree that the comparisons are mostly pointless.  

Even if Mopar DID try to release a modern Charger, it would be in the vein of the modern Challenger.  Those things seem like nice cars but they are not exactly interchanging parts with the vintage Challengers.  

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As for the extra two doors on the modern Chargers - we might as well be blaming Mopar for not giving us a modern Charger with an 8-track player.  
 
IMHO the Mopar community wasted its chance at influencing the new Charger when we went on the warpath over the door count.  It was stupid.  They might have actually listened to us a little more if we had been arguing for a change that was inside the realm of common sense.  Like the styling.   

[Chris G.]

As far as comparing the Mustang, the same thing can be applied now as back in the day.  The Mustang was marketed to a whole different segment of the public.  It's idiotic to compare them.  Apples & oranges.

Mike. People on this site will try and find anything and everything to help justify their thinking of the Charger. When people (on this site) say "look at the success of the newer Mustangs" and "If Chrysler built a Charger that resembled old, they would be just as successful". Sorry, but that's just not how it works.

There are people that make a lot more money than we ever will, getting paid to find a way to sell these cars. It's obviously worked and they are selling big time. You think Chrysler "sold out" because of this car? Heck, they were just trying to stay alive at that point. If they built a Charger the way some here wanted them to, they would be already gone and the Jeep brand would be with someone else.

Chrysler came out with the Challenger and right before it came out, there was a slew of people on this site saying how we should watch this thing sell and how they should have done the Charger the same way. Well, I don't know about you guys, but I rarely see a Challenger driving around. Oh wait, people bitched about price and said they can't buy it. It's always something...

And seriously, if people on this site really lose sleep over this Charger, or have to make snide comments to people driving these cars, you have deeper issues than you think.

Skip  It's all good.

[jeryst]

They still just dont get it. No sense in even trying.

If, at least, they would add a black grill and hide away headlights, it would improve the looks by 1 million percent.

[BigBlackDodge]

 
I agree that the comparisons are mostly pointless.  

Even if Mopar DID try to release a modern Charger, it would be in the vein of the modern Challenger.  Those things seem like nice cars but they are not exactly interchanging parts with the vintage Challengers.  

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As for the extra two doors on the modern Chargers - we might as well be blaming Mopar for not giving us a modern Charger with an 8-track player.  
 
IMHO the Mopar community wasted its chance at influencing the new Charger when we went on the warpath over the door count.  It was stupid.  They might have actually listened to us a little more if we had been arguing for a change that was inside the realm of common sense.  Like the styling.    

But they did listen......thats why we have a retro Challenger. Dodge's own designers admited the Challenger was making up for the Charger design.


As far as the later mustangs not looking like the old ones....at least they knew it was going to be a mustang we they started on it. It's not as if they're were making a Grenada (sp) and then slapped the mustang badges on it to boost sales.

BBD

[skip68]

You think Chrysler "sold out" because of this car? Heck, they were just trying to stay alive at that point. If they built a Charger the way some here wanted them to, they would be already gone

If that is true then you are right.  I'm all for the 99 4 door concept like said before but if these new 4 door chargers we see really have helped saved Dodge then I agree, the 2 door version would have killed them.  Most people want 4 doors in a car and with the few more sales to us classic guys that want a 2 door, Dodge would have lost most of the 4 door buyers.    That number of sales loss would be HUGE...   I still don't like it but it makes more sense to me now.      

You see, this is why we need the 99 concept car....   

[stripedelete]

You think Chrysler "sold out" because of this car? Heck, they were just trying to stay alive at that point. If they built a Charger the way some here wanted them to, they would be already gone

If that is true then you are right.  I'm all for the 99 4 door concept like said before but if these new 4 door chargers we see really have helped saved Dodge then I agree, the 2 door version would have killed them.  Most people want 4 doors in a car and with the few more sales to us classic guys that want a 2 door, Dodge would have lost most of the 4 door buyers.    That number of sales loss would be HUGE...   I still don't like it but it makes more sense to me now.      

You see, this is why we need the 99 concept car....   

Save who?  I think I read something about bankruptcy. ........

[bull]

As far as comparing the Mustang, the same thing can be applied now as back in the day.  The Mustang was marketed to a whole different segment of the public.  It's idiotic to compare them.  Apples & oranges.

Mike. People on this site will try and find anything and everything to help justify their thinking of the Charger. When people (on this site) say "look at the success of the newer Mustangs" and "If Chrysler built a Charger that resembled old, they would be just as successful". Sorry, but that's just not how it works.

[mauve66]

You think Chrysler "sold out" because of this car? Heck, they were just trying to stay alive at that point. If they built a Charger the way some here wanted them to, they would be already gone

If that is true then you are right.  I'm all for the 99 4 door concept like said before but if these new 4 door chargers we see really have helped saved Dodge then I agree, the 2 door version would have killed them.  Most people want 4 doors in a car and with the few more sales to us classic guys that want a 2 door, Dodge would have lost most of the 4 door buyers.    That number of sales loss would be HUGE...   I still don't like it but it makes more sense to me now.      

You see, this is why we need the 99 concept car....   

Save who?  I think I read something about bankruptcy. ........

oops............................................

[MoparManJim]

As far as comparing the Mustang, the same thing can be applied now as back in the day.  The Mustang was marketed to a whole different segment of the public.  It's idiotic to compare them.  Apples & oranges.

Mike. People on this site will try and find anything and everything to help justify their thinking of the Charger. When people (on this site) say "look at the success of the newer Mustangs" and "If Chrysler built a Charger that resembled old, they would be just as successful". Sorry, but that's just not how it works.

Nea he's right, they are all about profit and heck with what people wants. At least with the Mustangs that company cared.   

[mauve66]

As far as comparing the Mustang, the same thing can be applied now as back in the day.  The Mustang was marketed to a whole different segment of the public.  It's idiotic to compare them.  Apples & oranges.

Mike. People on this site will try and find anything and everything to help justify their thinking of the Charger. When people (on this site) say "look at the success of the newer Mustangs" and "If Chrysler built a Charger that resembled old, they would be just as successful". Sorry, but that's just not how it works.

Nea he's right, they are all about profit and heck with what people wants. At least with the Mustangs that company cared.   

lets see,
Ford builds a car that has image, actual performance heritage and a following from old and new customers and DOESN'T go into bankruptcy
and
Dodge builds a car with fake heritage, more decals than performance, hated by half of their customer base and files Bankruptcy............................

am i missing something here???

[Chris G.]

am i missing something here???

Oh, you're missing something alright. But don't feel bad, you're not the only one. 

I am done. You guys go ahead and tell us how Dodge would be so successful by listening to the 5 or 6 guys on this site who had better plans for the car. 

[Chris G.]

Nea he's right, they are all about profit and heck with what people wants. At least with the Mustangs that company cared.   

This is just too easy.

Not even Gowdy posts like this. Come on Bull...do you approve of your flocks comments? 

Even Tesh is laughing. OK...I'll stop. 

[skip68]

 

[MoparManJim]

am i missing something here???

Oh, you're missing something alright. But don't feel bad, you're not the only one. 

I am done. You guys go ahead and tell us how Dodge would be so successful by listening to the 5 or 6 guys on this site who had better plans for the car. 

Dude, look what I said afew replys up about Ford and Dodge. are you missing? I think so, you must be looking at the profit margen the way it sounds and not really care about the customers at all if you was in there shoes. 

Maybe if Dodge would listen to what the customer wants/wanted then maybe they wouldn't be in the shit hole they are in right now  . They was only going for one thing when they did the magun chargers and that was not the image but rather what they could rake in   

Now if you look at Ford at there Mustangs they have "style and image and class" all in one where as Dodge in there chargers have "none" but a huge price tag. The Mustangs is worth there price if you ask me which you are not though. If I was buying a car, I would be looking for class, image and style in a car. At least Ford tryed and had good test in design and with that they had good success in there stuff  as they kinda listen to what the people like and wanted. 

[skip68]

Not even Gowdy

 

Ok guys, you are in for a treat.   I just got off the phone with a insider at Chrysler Design that I know....    

There will be 2 versions of Dodge Chargers for 2011.
The first is the car we all see right now......
The new one is a 2 door based off of the 1968 body kind of like the Challenger and called Charger GT R/T.... named by me.

The MSRP is to be in the low 30's for a base model and mid to high 60's for the loaded model.      

There will be limited production of these cars.   I get to test drive one for car & driver in September and then they are giving it to me.   I also get to pick the colors for the new Chargers and can give out 40% discounts to all my DC.com friends....
       

[Chris G.]

Jim, I will let your clan answer your concerns, as it's obvious you don't want to hear a differing opinion. Like I said, keep thumping your dc.com chest about how you guys think the Charger should have been built. I gotta admit, it is fun to read. 

[OneofNoneRT]

      

Chrysler Group LLC Reports February 2010 U.S. Sales Increase Slightly

   * Sales improve slightly compared with the same period last year
   * Chrysler, Jeep® and Dodge brand sales up compared with the previous year
   * Car sales improve 38 percent versus the same period in 2009
   * Ten vehicles post year-over-year sales gains, 13 nameplates increase sales compared with the previous month
   * Entire Jeep lineup increased sales compared with the previous month
   * Ram Truck Brand sales up versus January
   * March kicks off 'Truck Month' celebrating the all-new 2010 Ram Heavy Duty, Motor Trend Magazine's '2010 Truck of the Year'

Fuel..

Auburn Hills, Mich., Mar 2, 2010  -

Chrysler Group LLC today reported a slight sales increase compared with February 2009.

The company reported total U.S. sales for February of 84,449 units, a slight increase versus the same time period last year (84,050 units) and an increase of 48 percent compared with January 2010 (57,143 units). Chrysler Group finished the month with 197,080 units in inventory, a 44 percent decline compared with February 2009 (350,966 units). Overall industry figures for February are projected to come in at an estimated 10.6 million SAAR.

"Chrysler Group sales were up slightly this month, in line with the industry," said Fred Diaz, President and Chief Executive Officer–Ram Brand and Lead Executive for the Sales Organization. "Compared with January, Chrysler Group's February sales grew more than the industry average, reinforcing the company trend of steady, month-over-month growth."

Charger was the Highest selling ( units) For Chrysler In Febuary . 5 years after induction.. The Challenger is not even 1/4 of the Charger.. and sold 35% less than they did in january..! The " Journey sold twice as many units.. What the Hell is a "Journey"? I dont think I have ever seen one!

Guys like it or not, they probably are not going to change much on this car until it is no longer number 1 !!

just pulled this info  from Chrysler media site look for your selves..:

http://www.media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.do;jsessionid=BB64D89543EC3805F980FC32F371807C?mid=1&id=9401

[MoparManJim]

Jim, I will let your clan answer your concerns, as it's obvious you don't want to hear a differing opinion. Like I said, keep thumping your dc.com chest about how you guys think the Charger should have been built. I gotta admit, it is fun to read. 

You just can't take it it sounds when the truth is spoken about why the companys is how they are today and why. I love hearing different opinions but I think you don't though. But oh well though. And I will also keep thumping my dc.com chest and the others will also I think  . And it is fun kinda to read your replys as well   

Now with the two new chargers coming out, lets see which version sells better and what one takes the lead, then we will see who is talking thr truth about the cars and what not   

But something is telling me that the 2nd gen version design style one will probably out due the 4 door one though.   

[skip68]

 

[Chris G.]

Come on Skip, that's all you have for your boy?   

Jim, There's no Santa or Easter Bunny...not sure if you heard, but wanted to mention it. 

[MoparManJim]

Come on Skip, that's all you have for your boy?   

His boy?    , Chuck, man I didn't know you was my dad! 

Jim, There's no Santa or Easter Bunny...not sure if you heard, but wanted to mention it. 

Ah, now Chris you are going to hurt alot of little kids on here when they see what you just said. You know that and I knew that but the little kids didn't know that though  . Now I hope you have alot of time to explain to the small children on here about the poor Easter Bunny and why Stanta didn't come to see them     

[472 R/T SE]

edit, it makes me a hypocrite to poke fun at others' disabilities.   

[Chris G.]

Now I hope you have alot of time to explain to the small children on here about the poor Easter Bunny and why Stanta didn't come to see them     

Not sure who "Stanta" is, but even he knows there isn't two versions of the Charger coming out.

Seriously Jim, stop now before it gets worse. I try and help, not hurt.